java mail issue

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hopehope_123

Hi ,

i use java mail api to send mails. I have 3 mail servers .
everytime when i use server A , my emails to yahoo are sent. but
everytime when i use server B , my emails to yahoo are considered as
spam by spamguard. ( same mail contents.) i found this server B is
inside some spam databases in world. Does yahoo check this? If this
server B address is deleted from the spam databases, can this issue
be solved?

kind regards,
hope
 
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Roedy Green

i use java mail api to send mails. I have 3 mail servers .
everytime when i use server A , my emails to yahoo are sent. but
everytime when i use server B , my emails to yahoo are considered as
spam by spamguard. ( same mail contents.) i found this server B is
inside some spam databases in world. Does yahoo check this? If this
server B address is deleted from the spam databases, can this issue
be solved?

To simply somewhat, you send all your mail to one server. It then
relays it to other servers where the recipients pick it up.

Spam blocking can happen at your server or theirs.

To get around the spam blocking on your server, you can run your own
mail server. You then can make up the rules, perhaps even including
accepting no incoming mail. there is nothing you can do about spam
blocking on their servers.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/mailserver.html
 
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Gordon Beaton

i use java mail api to send mails. I have 3 mail servers . everytime
when i use server A , my emails to yahoo are sent. but everytime
when i use server B , my emails to yahoo are considered as spam by
spamguard. ( same mail contents.) i found this server B is inside
some spam databases in world. Does yahoo check this?

It would seem so.
If this server B address is deleted from the spam databases, can
this issue be solved?

The solution seems obvious: don't relay through server B. Or ask your
recipients to whitelist your mail (perhaps by putting your sender
address in their address books).

There are likely other factors yahoo is considering when it rejects
your mail. They probably don't publish that information, but you might
have a look at the current list of tests used by SpamAssassin to get
an idea:

http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_2_x.html

/gordon

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hopehope_123

Hi ,

let me correct one point.

i have infact 1 email server which is ip address is xx.yy.zz.dd

this ip address is the load balance ip address and it chooses one of
the three email servers in smtp farm. Relaying is on for all of these
three servers.

so , in short , i do following:

telnet xx.yy.zz.dd smtp

according to the load , it chooses one of the 3 email servers.

from this point , i see that two ip addresses are inside some spam
databases but one is not. if load balancer chooses this one email
server, emails are sent . but if load balancer chooses other two ,
mails are put into spam folder and these two ip addresses are inside
spam db lists.

hope this explains better.

thx
hope
 
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Gordon Beaton

if load balancer chooses other two , mails are put into spam folder
and these two ip addresses are inside spam db lists.

Perhap you need to ask yourself why two of your servers are in a spam
database.
hope this explains better.

My earlier response still applies. Did you read it?

Is there a Java programming issue here?

/gordon

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Nigel Wade

hopehope_123 said:
Hi ,

let me correct one point.

i have infact 1 email server which is ip address is xx.yy.zz.dd

this ip address is the load balance ip address and it chooses one of
the three email servers in smtp farm. Relaying is on for all of these
three servers.

so , in short , i do following:

telnet xx.yy.zz.dd smtp

according to the load , it chooses one of the 3 email servers.

from this point , i see that two ip addresses are inside some spam
databases but one is not. if load balancer chooses this one email
server, emails are sent . but if load balancer chooses other two ,
mails are put into spam folder and these two ip addresses are inside
spam db lists.

hope this explains better.

Look at the messages and see if Yahoo gives any reason for marking them as SPAM.
You need to negotiate with Yahoo to get your 2 servers removed from their
blacklists. There will probably be instructions about how to do this somewhere
on the Yahoo website.

This does not appear to be anything whatever to do with Java.
 
R

Roedy Green

This does not appear to be anything whatever to do with Java.

However, the community of JavaMail programmers are a group very likely
to know the answers.

We are a bit short on questions of late. I think we can afford to
ease up on strict on-topicness.
 
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Gordon Beaton

the community of JavaMail programmers are a group very likely to
know the answers.

Yeah, just like "people who read mail" are.
We are a bit short on questions of late. I think we can afford to
ease up on strict on-topicness.

"Short on questions"? This isn't a help desk, and there is no support
staff to keep busy.

Just for kicks, let's try to stay on topic for a while.

/gordon

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Nigel Wade

Roedy said:
However, the community of JavaMail programmers are a group very likely
to know the answers.

Really? Then please tell the OP how he can resolve his problem with Yahoo rather
than replying to my post.
We are a bit short on questions of late. I think we can afford to
ease up on strict on-topicness.

Fine, if you have spare time on your hands ask the OP to PM you rather than
filling up the newsgroup with OT posts.
 

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