Mac OSX oddities (compiling Python plus tkinter)

[MichaelW]

I've been Python (2.3.4) plus Tkinter happily under MacOX 10.3, having
compiled them from scatch. (Tkinter is based on tcl/tk 8.4.1, which
were compiled from source via Fink).

I then moved my laptop over the 10.4, and things are now breaking.
Using the Python shipped with 10.4 (which has Tkinter based on tcl/tk
8.4.7) the window in a particular application looks completely
different (more Apple-like) and the buttons no longer work properly.
(Oddly, some icons have fallen off the buttons.) I therefore thought I
might compile Python from scratch and that fell over with messages:

sem_init: Function not implemented
sem_wait: Bad file descriptor
sem_post: Bad file descriptor

reported at intervals. I assume the odd Tkinter behaviour is due to
problems Apple created Apple-ising it? Is that correct, or has there
been a major change to the API between 8,4 and 8.7?. Is there any
work-around? Secondly, can I assume that the compiler messages indicate
a problem with the compiler (gcc select 3.3 makes no difference, BTW).

Your ideas would be appreciated.

Cheers
MichaelW

 

[Kevin Walzer]

I've been Python (2.3.4) plus Tkinter happily under MacOX 10.3, having
compiled them from scatch. (Tkinter is based on tcl/tk 8.4.1, which
were compiled from source via Fink).

I then moved my laptop over the 10.4, and things are now breaking.
Using the Python shipped with 10.4 (which has Tkinter based on tcl/tk
8.4.7) the window in a particular application looks completely
different (more Apple-like) and the buttons no longer work properly.
(Oddly, some icons have fallen off the buttons.) I therefore thought I
might compile Python from scratch and that fell over with messages:

sem_init: Function not implemented
sem_wait: Bad file descriptor
sem_post: Bad file descriptor

reported at intervals. I assume the odd Tkinter behaviour is due to
problems Apple created Apple-ising it? Is that correct, or has there
been a major change to the API between 8,4 and 8.7?. Is there any
work-around? Secondly, can I assume that the compiler messages indicate
a problem with the compiler (gcc select 3.3 makes no difference, BTW).

Your ideas would be appreciated.

Cheers
MichaelW

There were not huge changes between Tk 8.4.1 and 8.4.7. However, if you
were using Tk from Fink before and now are using the Apple version of
Tk, that may account for the difference. Tk from Fink is targeted for
X11, while the Apple-installed Tk is targeted to the Aqua windowing
environment. Tk itself is portable, but some of the extension packages
for it (such as BLT, and presumably any Pythonesque wrappers for them)
do not work on Aqua. Similarly, some bugs have arisen in Aqua's
implementation of Tk (pixmaps do not display in menus, tearoff menus do
not work properly), etc.

Also, did you compile Python as a Carbon framework build (makes use of
the Apple's windowing environment)? What version are you now running?

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Cheers,

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