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DJ said:
: >>There are no Dutch people who don't know English.
: Know? My son doesn't know English. But then again, he's only 4. ~ ~ ~
I hope he will know a bit when he's 8 :)
But I think he probable already knows some words ("Yes","No","Hello" or a
line or some from the telly).

Possibly. He's already near fluent in Esperanto.
: Have you ever tried to speak English with Asian people? You should!
LOL. Yeah, and on the same level:
I wander why the TU does ask them to come here to study, but then forgets to
teach them on what side of the road they shuld ride with their new bike.
On daily bases I see foreign studends expose their selfs in dangerous
situations, riding on the leftside of the road when a card rides on the
right side in oposite direction.. or even other bikes..

Why? Is one required to keep right with a bicycle ? :)
 
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wiesje said:
<snip>
Sorry man, but the dutch translation is really horrible! No one will
be able to grasp what your site is about!
Wait, I'll re-translate the first line for you:

YOU: Welcome to my new web-site, which I hope you will like.
SYSTRAN: Welkomstgroet voor mijn opkomend zwemvlies- terrein, wie MIJ
hoop u zal zoals.
RETRANSLATED: Welcomegreetings for my nascending flipper- terrain, who
ME hope you will likewise. [hopes], even

Well, the manual that came with my Taiwanese microwave seems like the
'Kings English' compared to this. My advise: junk it and ask a
friendly dutchman to translate your page for you!



Groetjes, Wiesje
 
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Hey, was that Send I hit? How come my hands have grown so big? :)
Well, the manual that came with my Taiwanese microwave seems like the
'Kings English' compared to this. My advise: junk it and ask a
friendly dutchman to translate your page for you!

I would.
 
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Dr John Stockton

JRS: In article <[email protected]>, seen in
What I do is to add 0.000001 to the value x before putting it through
this same function, when this makes sure that the value is not below
the true value before you run the calculation.

Since this fraction is so small, then it would be rounded off
anywhere, where you only have to watch out that your x value does not
use this many decimal places.

One fundamental error is that Math.floor is being used where Math.round
is needed.

Another is that there is almost no intrinsic need to round numbers to a
multiple of 0.01; the need is to convert a Number to a String with two
decimal places.

Read the FAQ.
 
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Cardman said:
Then there is the other 77 pages...

My best idea for having a multiple language site would be to remove as
much information as possible, including minimum item information with
no real description except the photo, then to have this very compacted
site translated into many languages as possible.

The only real problem is when adding new items, but you can just learn
the phrase "No Information Available" in all the languages.
LOL

Having my current site translated, even for free, is a crazy idea,
when other languages cannot be maintained for any real time, despite
such promises.

True. Yet it happens that especially Dutch (or, to be honest, germanic
languages in general) needs manual assistance. Keep Systran. Please do.

Just checked the German version--it can be read.

But for the Dutch version, how much time/patience have you got? The
offer stands. Translating into Dutch is not as much a problem for me as
translating into English ;-)
 
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You know what? Relieve some of the strain on the translation machines by
using shorter sentences. (Sorry, that is a bad example).

An example:

"To begin with then if this is your first visit then odds are that you
came here because someone you know recommended you to visit"
this is bound to cause trouble.

"Is this your first visit? Possibly your friend has recommended this
site to you"
has a little more universal structure. Maybe it is not your style of
writing; but you won't develop a style of writing in 8000 languages,
would you?
 
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DJ WIce

: I have been feeling
: for a long time that it needs another improvement.
Maybe, you can test serverside if one visits for the first time.
You can check with script or serverside if one comes via google..

So you don't need to guess.. that bad.

Then it shows more professional I think.

And maybe just start to tell people what's the site about.. instead of
guessing where they come from or how that they did find you.

Maybe you want items to be clickable and then be added to a basket.
PHP-Nuke is a free php/MySQL script to built a website that also has
shopping script and can handle multiple languages.

Wouter
 
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Dr John Stockton

JRS: In article <[email protected]>, seen in
Cardman <[email protected]> posted at Tue, 3
Feb 2004 23:04:36 :-

(VAT stuff) : I was not addressing your situation, but the defects of
your answer to Chiwa's original question, and the probable context of
that question. When responding to an article in News, it is wise to
examine the position of that article in its thread, and at least to
review its immediate predecessors.
The need is to display the correct answer, where that is being done
string or no string.

Numbers cannot be displayed; only strings can. On output of a
javascript number, there is an automatic conversion to string.



Consider document.write(3.00) - the result will be 3, not
3.00, and that is correct by language definition.

The usual reason for wanting to truncate a Number to a multiple of 0.01
is that a currency calculation with input sums to two places gives a
result with rounding errors which displays something like 3.00000000001;
"numeric truncation" and "numeric rounding" both give a Number of 3,
displaying as 3. Those who use numeric truncation eventually discover
that they need to change to numeric rounding, in order not to lose one
unit up to half the time.

But they then see that sums of money such as three pounds, three pounds
five pence, and three pounds ten pence display as 3 3.05 3.1, whereas
convention demands 3.00, 3.05, 3.10. To get those in javascript the
Number must be converted to a String with two decimal places before
output.

The conversion needs a function.

There is no need to round the number before the function; it is better
to do it within.




I see a possible problem with your VAT approach. VAT here is 17.5%.

In any language using IEEE Doubles,
1.175 - 1.0 - 0.125 = 0.050000000000000044
0.175 - 0.125 = 0.04999999999999999
Here 1.0 and 0.125 are numbers that an IEEE Double can represent
exactly. So 1.175 is stored as slightly more, but 0.175 as slightly
less.

Thus for ten items costing GBP 1.00 exc. VAT, with truncation, the
customer may be called on to pay GBP 11.75, and the VATman may be
offered GBP 1.74. Accounts may show a discrepancy of one penny.


Amusing thought : % means /per centum/. Literally, a VAT rate of 17.5%
means not that the tax is the net times 0.175, but that for every 100
pence in the net the tax is 17.5 pence --- and 17.5 can of course be
represented exactly. If the calculation had been done literally,
calculating the pennies of VAT from the hundreds-of-pence net, the
results would have been exact.
 
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Jim Ley

Then it is odd how my Atlas says that the languages used there are
Dutch and Frisian.

It probably tells you the official language of Eire is Gaelic too, I
wouldn't bet on your chances of finding a speaker, let alone a speaker
who doesn't also understand English.

Jim.
 
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Jim said:
[the atlas] probably tells you the official language of Eire is Gaelic too, I
wouldn't bet on your chances of finding a speaker, let alone a speaker
who doesn't also understand English.

Maybe the oldest people?

My atlas notes gaelic as regional (western parts) and diminishing in
use. No notes about first or second language.
 
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Jim Ley

English followed by Irish Gaelic apparently.

So it has nothing to do with national languages, English is not a
national language of Eire.
I believe the difference is that Ireland (Eire) has accepted the fact
that English has assimilated the population,

It'd had assimilated the population even before 1911 I believe.
It would be nice had it listed what a large percentage of the
population can speak, instead of what the politicians desire the
population to only speak.

What? The Irish don't even get the EU to produce documents in it
national language (uniquely AIUI) because so few people can.

Jim.
 

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