Movable Python or ActivePython

[balzer]

I want Python pack that can run without being installed, mostly for testing
programs. As I read, Movable Python can run without being installed. It
needs no registry entries and knows the path to all the dlls (system or
otherwise) that it uses.
Whats about ActivePython http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads?
Does it requires installation?

 

[Terry Reedy]

I want Python pack that can run without being installed, mostly for
testing programs. As I read, Movable Python can run without being
installed. It needs no registry entries and knows the path to all the
dlls (system or otherwise) that it uses.
Whats about ActivePython
http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads? Does it requires
installation?

Yes. It is the standard distribution with extra stuff added and installed.

 

[Sridhar Ratnakumar]

I want Python pack that can run without being installed, mostly for testing programs. As I read, Movable Python can run without being installed. It needs no registry entries and knows the path to all the dlls (system or otherwise) that it uses.
Whats about ActivePython http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads? Does it requires installation?

The .MSI installer does require installation, but there is also a .ZIP package which doesn't. It is not visible in the downloads page, but you can always get it here:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/releases/2.6.5.12/
(substitute with latest version)

When I just tried the "ActivePython-2.6.5.12-win64-x64.zip" on my Win7 x64 machine - by extracting and running python.exe (from INSTALLDIR/) without installing - it just worked.

-srid

 

[python]

In a recent thread ("Movable Python or ActivePython), Sridhar Ratnakumar
pointed out that the ActiveState Python releases can be downloaded as
ZIP files vs. MSI files. (Great idea - thank you ActiveState!)

The .MSI installer does require installation, but there is also a .ZIP package which doesn't. It is not visible in the downloads page, but you can always get it here:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/releases/2.6.5.12/

I just took a look at the ActiveStatre 2.6.5.12 release (zip file
version) and noticed that this file does not include the MSVCR90.DLL run
time file - it includes MFC*.DLL files instead (and a different manifest
file as well).

Can anyone explain why the ActiveState release uses different MS Visual
C runtime files than the official Python Foundation's release of Python?

Thanks,
Malcolm


----- Original message -----
From: "Sridhar Ratnakumar" <[email protected]>
To: "balzer" <[email protected]>
Cc: (e-mail address removed)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 11:19:35 -0700
Subject: Re: Movable Python or ActivePython

I want Python pack that can run without being installed, mostly for testing programs. As I read, Movable Python can run without being installed. It needs no registry entries and knows the path to all the dlls (system or otherwise) that it uses.
Whats about ActivePython http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads? Does it requires installation?

The .MSI installer does require installation, but there is also a .ZIP
package which doesn't. It is not visible in the downloads page, but you
can always get it here:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/releases/2.6.5.12/
(substitute with latest version)

When I just tried the "ActivePython-2.6.5.12-win64-x64.zip" on my Win7
x64 machine - by extracting and running python.exe (from INSTALLDIR/)
without installing - it just worked.

-srid

 

[python]

In a recent thread ("Movable Python or ActivePython), Sridhar Ratnakumar
pointed out that the ActiveState Python releases can be downloaded as
ZIP files vs. MSI files. (Great idea - thank you ActiveState!)

The .MSI installer does require installation, but there is also a .ZIP package which doesn't. It is not visible in the downloads page, but you can always get it here:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/releases/2.6.5.12/

I just took a look at the ActiveStatre 2.6.5.12 release (zip file
version) and noticed that this file does not include the MSVCR90.DLL run
time file - it includes MFC*.DLL files instead (and a different manifest
file as well).

Can anyone explain why the ActiveState release uses different MS Visual
C runtime files than the official Python Foundation's release of Python?

Thanks,
Malcolm


----- Original message -----
From: "Sridhar Ratnakumar" <[email protected]>
To: "balzer" <[email protected]>
Cc: (e-mail address removed)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 11:19:35 -0700
Subject: Re: Movable Python or ActivePython

I want Python pack that can run without being installed, mostly for testing programs. As I read, Movable Python can run without being installed. It needs no registry entries and knows the path to all the dlls (system or otherwise) that it uses.
Whats about ActivePython http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads? Does it requires installation?

The .MSI installer does require installation, but there is also a .ZIP
package which doesn't. It is not visible in the downloads page, but you
can always get it here:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/releases/2.6.5.12/
(substitute with latest version)

When I just tried the "ActivePython-2.6.5.12-win64-x64.zip" on my Win7
x64 machine - by extracting and running python.exe (from INSTALLDIR/)
without installing - it just worked.

-srid

 

[Trent Mick]

I just took a look at the ActiveStatre 2.6.5.12 release (zip file
version) and noticed that this file does not include the MSVCR90.DLL run
time file - it includes MFC*.DLL files instead (and a different manifest
file as well).

Can anyone explain why the ActiveState release uses different MS Visual
C runtime files than the official Python Foundation's release of Python?

It doesn't. We use the same MSVC version as the python.org builds.

Note that "MFC*.dll" files (IIRC, it has been a while) are
redistributable DLLs used by the included PyWin32 extensions that have
Python bindings for the Microsoft Foundation Classes GUI APIs.

Trent

 

[python]

Hi Trent,

It doesn't. We use the same MSVC version as the python.org builds.

Note that "MFC*.dll" files (IIRC, it has been a while) are
redistributable DLLs used by the included PyWin32 extensions that have
Python bindings for the Microsoft Foundation Classes GUI APIs.

Yes, you are correct about the MFC*.dll's being shipped as part of the
Py2Win32 extensions.

But I don't see the MSVCR90.DLL in your ZIP release. I do see a
MSVCR71.DLL.

Malcolm

 

[Trent Mick]

Hi Trent,




Yes, you are correct about the MFC*.dll's being shipped as part of the
Py2Win32 extensions.

But I don't see the MSVCR90.DLL in your ZIP release. I do see a
MSVCR71.DLL.

That is probably a bug in the ZIP package (the MSI is by far the primary
package for Windows so gets more attention).

I've started a bug for this:
http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=86794

Thanks,
Trent

 

[python]

Hi Trent,

That is probably a bug in the ZIP package (the MSI is by far the primary package for Windows so gets more attention).

I've started a bug for this:
http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=86794

Thank you,

Malcolm


----- Original message -----
From: "Trent Mick" <[email protected]>
To: (e-mail address removed)
Cc: (e-mail address removed)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 09:33:05 -0700
Subject: Re: ActiveState using different MS runtime files than official
Python release? (was Re: Movable Python or ActivePython)

Hi Trent,




Yes, you are correct about the MFC*.dll's being shipped as part of the
Py2Win32 extensions.

But I don't see the MSVCR90.DLL in your ZIP release. I do see a
MSVCR71.DLL.

That is probably a bug in the ZIP package (the MSI is by far the primary
package for Windows so gets more attention).

I've started a bug for this:
http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=86794

Thanks,
Trent

 

[balzer]

I want Python pack that can run without being installed, mostly for
testing programs. As I read, Movable Python can run without being
installed. It needs no registry entries and knows the path to all the dlls
(system or otherwise) that it uses.
Whats about ActivePython
http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads? Does it requires
installation?

The .MSI installer does require installation, but there is also a .ZIP
package which doesn't. It is not visible in the downloads page, but you can
always get it here:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/releases/2.6.5.12/
(substitute with latest version)

When I just tried the "ActivePython-2.6.5.12-win64-x64.zip" on my Win7 x64
machine - by extracting and running python.exe (from INSTALLDIR/) without
installing - it just worked.

-srid

===========
Not works for me. I tried run python script from INSTALLDIR/ - not works for
me. Looks, its extremely inconveniet, not user-friendly.
There's a vaste quanity of various stuff inside pyhon folders.

 

[python]

Balzer,

I took a look at the zip version of ActiveState's Python.

There's a related thread in on this mailing list where I asked if the
zip files are missing the Microsoft VC runtime files required by the
Python interpreter.

According to Trent from ActiveState, this is indeed the case.

I recommend taking a look at this thread and contacting ActiveState to
see when they expect to have a fix.

You might also try taking a look at Py2exe and building your own Python
"run time" (minus Idle).

Malcolm


----- Original message -----
From: "balzer" <[email protected]>
To: (e-mail address removed)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 15:31:32 +0300
Subject: Re: Movable Python or ActivePython

I want Python pack that can run without being installed, mostly for
testing programs. As I read, Movable Python can run without being
installed. It needs no registry entries and knows the path to all the dlls
(system or otherwise) that it uses.
Whats about ActivePython
http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads? Does it requires
installation?

The .MSI installer does require installation, but there is also a .ZIP
package which doesn't. It is not visible in the downloads page, but you
can
always get it here:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/releases/2.6.5.12/
(substitute with latest version)

When I just tried the "ActivePython-2.6.5.12-win64-x64.zip" on my Win7
x64
machine - by extracting and running python.exe (from INSTALLDIR/)
without
installing - it just worked.

-srid

===========
Not works for me. I tried run python script from INSTALLDIR/ - not works
for
me. Looks, its extremely inconveniet, not user-friendly.
There's a vaste quanity of various stuff inside pyhon folders.

 

[balzer]

Balzer,

I took a look at the zip version of ActiveState's Python.

There's a related thread in on this mailing list where I asked if the
zip files are missing the Microsoft VC runtime files required by the
Python interpreter.

According to Trent from ActiveState, this is indeed the case.

I recommend taking a look at this thread and contacting ActiveState to
see when they expect to have a fix.

You might also try taking a look at Py2exe and building your own Python
"run time" (minus Idle).

Malcolm


----- Original message -----
From: "balzer" <[email protected]>
To: (e-mail address removed)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 15:31:32 +0300
Subject: Re: Movable Python or ActivePython





The .MSI installer does require installation, but there is also a .ZIP
package which doesn't. It is not visible in the downloads page, but you
can
always get it here:

http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/releases/2.6.5.12/
(substitute with latest version)

When I just tried the "ActivePython-2.6.5.12-win64-x64.zip" on my Win7
x64
machine - by extracting and running python.exe (from INSTALLDIR/)
without
installing - it just worked.

-srid

===========
Not works for me. I tried run python script from INSTALLDIR/ - not works
for
me. Looks, its extremely inconveniet, not user-friendly.
There's a vaste quanity of various stuff inside pyhon folders.

---------------

Is there some better, simpler ways for newbee? I need "install" Python on
Windows XP without connection with windows system files or registry.
And run Python it as independent framework. I just need test a few python
scripts.

Other question: how difficult is to convert Python code to pure C code?

Thanks.

 

[python]

Balzer,

I just need test a few python scripts.

I recommend you look at Movable Python or Portable Python.

Malcolm