[OT?] Pronunciation of "strcpy"

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lawrence.jones

Serve La said:
I would be more interested in strpbrk and strrchr

Stir-pea-break or strip-break and stir-are-care.

-Larry Jones

I've never seen a sled catch fire before. -- Hobbes
 
C

cody

strrchr mean String-Right-Character but what does strpbrk mean?
i know what it does do but what does the name stand for?

My guess: `string pointer break',

<lame humour>

which is not to be confused with sprbrk (spring break).
Also, some commentators claim that strpbrk means
"[str]ing [p]ower inary [r]ead ac[k]nowledgment,"
but this is highly unlikely. :)

</lame humour>



so much for expressive function names...
 
J

Jack Klein

I pronounce strcpy like this: strcpy

That is, "str" as in "string without the ing", and "cpy" as a hard c sound
followed by the "py" sound that you get in "copy". No "o" sound.

In other words, I pronounce it just as it is spelt. I concede that
introducing a short 'o' would do little or no damage to comprehension.

Note that 'o' should actually be an unsigned short to avoid
implementation-defined behavior.

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B

Ben Pfaff

Richard Heathfield said:
I pronounce strcpy like this: strcpy

That is, "str" as in "string without the ing", and "cpy" as a hard c sound
followed by the "py" sound that you get in "copy". No "o" sound.

You want to include a link to an audio file for that? I
personally often find it difficult to pronounce five consecutive
consonants.
 
J

Joona I Palaste

You want to include a link to an audio file for that? I
personally often find it difficult to pronounce five consecutive
consonants.

It's difficult, but possible. I just said it out aloud. I would make an
audio file of it but I don't have a microphone in my computer.

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Richard Heathfield

Ben said:
You want to include a link to an audio file for that? I
personally often find it difficult to pronounce five consecutive
consonants.

Well, "eighthly" has five consecutive consonants and isn't any bother to
pronounce. :)

Of course, the "str" of strcpy has a slight and unavoidable sound - um, I
think it's called "schwa" - at its end, as does "c".

Thanks to the wonders of modern technology, you can hear me say "strcpy". So
can other people, but I can't address everyone by name.

http://www.rjgh.co.uk/me/strcpy.tar.gz (37618 bytes) contains a .wav file of
around 128KB. Insane, since it's only (slightly under) 6 seconds of audio.
 
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Irrwahn Grausewitz

Richard Heathfield said:
Thanks to the wonders of modern technology, you can hear me say "strcpy". So
can other people, but I can't address everyone by name.

http://www.rjgh.co.uk/me/strcpy.tar.gz (37618 bytes) contains a .wav file of
around 128KB. Insane, since it's only (slightly under) 6 seconds of audio.

Anyone ever heard about todays audio compression technology,
beyond gzip that is?

8o)
 
A

Allin Cottrell

Richard said:
Well, "eighthly" has five consecutive consonants and isn't any bother to
pronounce. :)

W.V.O. Quine pointed out that English contains some true monsters
of this sort. Could "xthstr" possibly occur? Yes, "sixth string".
 
R

Richard Heathfield

Irrwahn said:
Anyone ever heard about todays audio compression technology,
beyond gzip that is?

MP3, you mean? Well, up until today I have /never/ encountered a need to
compress audio at home, so I am a little short on audio compression tools,
and had no particular desire to write my own for the sake of one sample.
 
R

Richard Bos

Ben Pfaff said:
You want to include a link to an audio file for that? I
personally often find it difficult to pronounce five consecutive
consonants.

In certain contexts, 'r' is a vowel <g>.

Richard, can, if forced, pronounce strcpy without schwas.
 
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Irrwahn Grausewitz

Richard Heathfield said:
[...] so I am a little short on audio compression tools,
and had no particular desire to write my own for the sake of one sample.

I feel with you. I once had to find out the hard way that implementing
sophisticated audio compression software is not /that/ easy at all.
 
A

ArWeGod

Emmanuel Delahaye said:
I French, we generally spell 'str' and prononce 'cpy' as 'copy', hence we say
"Ess Tai Er Copy".

Sometimes, we spell the whole:
"Ess Tai Er Sai Pai E-grek"

Well, that the French for you. ;-)
Umm, I mean, very logical, of course.

I use stir-copy. But then I say "etc" is et-see.
 
A

ArWeGod

Serve La said:
I would be more interested in strpbrk and strrchr


stir - p - break and string reverse char (some things don't abbreviate
well).

Now: how do you pronounce char?

I used to like "char"coal, but I also use "char"acter (also car like the
automobile)

BTW, I do have a great respect for foreign language peoples who try to
program in American - made languages, and wonder why there aren't more
foreign language languages. I knew a woman from China who described learning
BASIC in China. The words GOTO, NEXT, PRINT, etc. were just meaningless
strings. At least we English speaking people understand what print means as
a word, not just a glyph.
 
P

pete

ArWeGod said:
Well, that the French for you. ;-)
Umm, I mean, very logical, of course.

I use stir-copy. But then I say "etc" is et-see.

I rhyme "atoi" with "patois"
 
T

Tak-Shing Chan

MP3, you mean? Well, up until today I have /never/ encountered a need to
compress audio at home, so I am a little short on audio compression tools,
and had no particular desire to write my own for the sake of one sample.

Downsampling seems to be the best compression technology:

/*
* Also Sprach Richard Heathfield
*
* Sends strcpy.wav.gz to stdout.
*
* Downsampling by sox-12.17.3 using polyphase interpolation.
* Base64 encoding by PINE 4.33.
*/

#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>

int
main(void)
{
char *s =
"H4sICJMmXj8AA3N0cmNweS53YXYAdVZLbyNFEPbekDjAT+CvcGAlrhxYENJK"
"qw1O4oxjx8+Mp9/dM3biVxJCyGpBgASI6x448DP4Mdyp6q7uaWdFtacf1dWP"
"qvqq2l98/vz5vx92Oi8+/fKzbn/yycedTucZlF8+6vjvWeeDztGryat/QEZL"
"U/OaG21Mw40yWlu1FE5YCV1lA8NJJy0WHMAQuMA3CnkoJR3XUmqupFBSSiGF"
"rgwXmhlolJIKOJILxpmsFDfSwSZScc00Y9ViPhvNqkavHQgYvqpgF87K2XxQ"
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"OxvMp73HX8dvJ4M7UV1PpurkG/nj+M/vivH4WL6bPbijTb1YqsHyvPd1cyfe"
"2elwePTm5+qn/nTP7NVMm9Gw+/Jx9/DbZHzed3/Ih3K+5Y3ifDk2xflX9zfy"
"r6KSr7c/6FvO1typcskMW4xmL+zb0d8DtuzfrmyjbVOu5q5mS8HVfMqLxoib"
"sm50XavGaCu00Ggu+EDzhajAfmBYBRZV4BbF4EANBhVoUrCfEkKBNWFWoYzU"
"AoyPO2gJNRUNS7VEm4NHFC7FPnWgCzK4gedKL65DhRvnJZwTOtpLU+U/2koR"
"A/YUeFXP0n5nRUiQoREcdRACKxwBCSi+EqGCCSaYqnS1Kvn2Yj11TNqqnjux"
"4qYCASscIAbNIIzQAB8wh+QrVjPFYLUBH6gKeaA4FK658XdCWe6t4K+mtY5a"
"aO3VRzgbaBQaH/veforMJkDOGmetM9YY6yWlkdIAkgUcCBieA6odhAn6zdS1"
"tWgZvwEohtgHYgx/IliPXIU2kgECwTZhIGSwW5pTQYLGsFwEkWTfJJyAENbp"
"5GEVPaz1gYMDI1uokrMPhqGTA4TgcUBer6RWvH+8TnvTgGmRXVjmCj0hnz/A"
"ihr9ivhGzUy4OiQkY2ttJPjFWutdCV6yvgV/haHveT6QcxYLtEA19rx7rQlp"
"DR3sD8Ggk+g4VlVleXl5OZ/NJpPxaDQcDgbD/nlRFL2zXq93eto9/va4ixU0"
"UI67J93T494JzJydnvWKs6JfnPdhzcXFeDybzmaw16KsFpxhWIA2gCjj6ma5"
"hN9ytVphfUV0jb0VVJvNbou02e52u60vN7e3tzd7HO43++3eT6/X693uZrfH"
"eRLcbLGExZtroKtrvyecV7umwQObpobSQNvUNXQC1bWzwXgeNZCzJdpZy+Ru"
"QoEmInx68EgR3fkUKD4AVettEXJB+EQIBIJewD+hJ6IlolslduoSvDzRXiJk"
"mJbCxWK4tYvyQEqxFqMzlSgk3iOvAJ3LfYaj7Ba04u35nFMKDMPET028YtDZ"
"PxHZ+aQUb/ejXJprGSeTtmlb4qQmTLdrM3+I/9kxGTBFtzgwY7KwoEgPW+Yl"
"vgDpDYj2OJShmlHBn49I/GHxRI0nnmQYmaVFgXiaYlTAZnrKdMqRiXwCSdkD"
"00bIHqENRBzKLiGXUOrBSlNmoeySGv+etMnJpE7MVljwoCBDAzw1nESD2oXP"
"uhpjlz4kYEOF9eEd6XbxNuFFpLCksPaezLPzYWQcgiiijx96OAs8SVCIsZwD"
"kZwTPQy+A8dWyb/k6ujnCIXWvxRdPAuwg5IFT355elpzBdMzlr2i2ftFSad9"
"teOcel8+Sah2dd6TMXYy/NG/ggRClSHRswk7Ov0ty15eUuw/0GCFBv0LAAA=";
int i;
char *Base64 =
"ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQ"
"RSTUVWXYZabcdefgh"
"ijklmnopqrstuvwxy"
"z0123456789+/=";
unsigned char d[4];

for (; *s; s += 4) {
for (i = 0; i < 4; i++)
d = strchr(Base64, s) - Base64;
if (d[0] < 64 && d[1] < 64) {
putchar((d[0] & 63) << 2 | d[1] >> 4);
if (d[2] < 64) {
putchar((d[1] & 15) << 4 | d[2] >> 2);
if (d[3] < 64)
putchar((d[2] & 3) << 6 | d[3]);
}
}
}
return 0;
}

Tak-Shing

P.S. This is a ``legitimate'' C program and therefore on-topic.
See, no binary attachments here! :)
 
D

Dan Pop

In said:
#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>

int
main(void)
{
char *s =
"H4sICJMmXj8AA3N0cmNweS53YXYAdVZLbyNFEPbekDjAT+CvcGAlrhxYENJK"
"qw1O4oxjx8+Mp9/dM3biVxJCyGpBgASI6x448DP4Mdyp6q7uaWdFtacf1dWP"
"qvqq2l98/vz5vx92Oi8+/fKzbn/yycedTucZlF8+6vjvWeeDztGryat/QEZL"
"U/OaG21Mw40yWlu1FE5YCV1lA8NJJy0WHMAQuMA3CnkoJR3XUmqupFBSSiGF"
"rgwXmhlolJIKOJILxpmsFDfSwSZScc00Y9ViPhvNqkavHQgYvqpgF87K2XxQ"
"nF/Z5l6Vk3Jg7s21nSi9kNWk7L+ut/L+7qKcj+aPd+z7AdtU2kyni5fFm2b5"
"OxvMp73HX8dvJ4M7UV1PpurkG/nj+M/vivH4WL6bPbijTb1YqsHyvPd1cyfe"
"2elwePTm5+qn/nTP7NVMm9Gw+/Jx9/DbZHzed3/Ih3K+5Y3ifDk2xflX9zfy"
"r6KSr7c/6FvO1typcskMW4xmL+zb0d8DtuzfrmyjbVOu5q5mS8HVfMqLxoib"
"sm50XavGaCu00Ggu+EDzhajAfmBYBRZV4BbF4EANBhVoUrCfEkKBNWFWoYzU"
"AoyPO2gJNRUNS7VEm4NHFC7FPnWgCzK4gedKL65DhRvnJZwTOtpLU+U/2koR"
"A/YUeFXP0n5nRUiQoREcdRACKxwBCSi+EqGCCSaYqnS1Kvn2Yj11TNqqnjux"
"4qYCASscIAbNIIzQAB8wh+QrVjPFYLUBH6gKeaA4FK658XdCWe6t4K+mtY5a"
"aO3VRzgbaBQaH/veforMJkDOGmetM9YY6yWlkdIAkgUcCBieA6odhAn6zdS1"
"tWgZvwEohtgHYgx/IliPXIU2kgECwTZhIGSwW5pTQYLGsFwEkWTfJJyAENbp"
"5GEVPaz1gYMDI1uokrMPhqGTA4TgcUBer6RWvH+8TnvTgGmRXVjmCj0hnz/A"
"ihr9ivhGzUy4OiQkY2ttJPjFWutdCV6yvgV/haHveT6QcxYLtEA19rx7rQlp"
"DR3sD8Ggk+g4VlVleXl5OZ/NJpPxaDQcDgbD/nlRFL2zXq93eto9/va4ixU0"
"UI67J93T494JzJydnvWKs6JfnPdhzcXFeDybzmaw16KsFpxhWIA2gCjj6ma5"
"hN9ytVphfUV0jb0VVJvNbou02e52u60vN7e3tzd7HO43++3eT6/X693uZrfH"
"eRLcbLGExZtroKtrvyecV7umwQObpobSQNvUNXQC1bWzwXgeNZCzJdpZy+Ru"
"QoEmInx68EgR3fkUKD4AVettEXJB+EQIBIJewD+hJ6IlolslduoSvDzRXiJk"
"mJbCxWK4tYvyQEqxFqMzlSgk3iOvAJ3LfYaj7Ba04u35nFMKDMPET028YtDZ"
"PxHZ+aQUb/ejXJprGSeTtmlb4qQmTLdrM3+I/9kxGTBFtzgwY7KwoEgPW+Yl"
"vgDpDYj2OJShmlHBn49I/GHxRI0nnmQYmaVFgXiaYlTAZnrKdMqRiXwCSdkD"
"00bIHqENRBzKLiGXUOrBSlNmoeySGv+etMnJpE7MVljwoCBDAzw1nESD2oXP"
"uhpjlz4kYEOF9eEd6XbxNuFFpLCksPaezLPzYWQcgiiijx96OAs8SVCIsZwD"
"kZwTPQy+A8dWyb/k6ujnCIXWvxRdPAuwg5IFT355elpzBdMzlr2i2ftFSad9"
"teOcel8+Sah2dd6TMXYy/NG/ggRClSHRswk7Ov0ty15eUuw/0GCFBv0LAAA=";
int i;
char *Base64 =
"ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQ"
"RSTUVWXYZabcdefgh"
"ijklmnopqrstuvwxy"
"z0123456789+/=";
unsigned char d[4];

for (; *s; s += 4) {
for (i = 0; i < 4; i++)
d = strchr(Base64, s) - Base64;
if (d[0] < 64 && d[1] < 64) {
putchar((d[0] & 63) << 2 | d[1] >> 4);
if (d[2] < 64) {
putchar((d[1] & 15) << 4 | d[2] >> 2);
if (d[3] < 64)
putchar((d[2] & 3) << 6 | d[3]);
}
}
}
return 0;
}

Tak-Shing

P.S. This is a ``legitimate'' C program and therefore on-topic.


1. It exceeds the C89 limit of 509 characters in a string literal
(after concatenation).

2. It outputs characters that do not belong to the basic execution
character set to a text stream: undefined behaviour.

Dan
 
T

Tak-Shing Chan

On 10 Sep 2003, Dan Pop wrote:

[snip]
1. It exceeds the C89 limit of 509 characters in a string literal
(after concatenation).

But it does not exceed the C99 limit of 4095.
2. It outputs characters that do not belong to the basic execution
character set to a text stream:

Not necessarily. The basic execution character set is
implementation-defined.
undefined behaviour.

Chapter and verse, please?

Tak-Shing
 
L

Larry__Weiss

Tak-Shing Chan said:
On 10 Sep 2003, Dan Pop wrote:
[snip]
1. It exceeds the C89 limit of 509 characters in a string literal
(after concatenation).

But it does not exceed the C99 limit of 4095.

And, C99 is what defines C at this time, right?
 

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