Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

A

AshParr

Hi All,

i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.

Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,
so to cut down on the up-keep of the site i think this would really
help as the pages are automatically updated. One of the pages i am
trying to display is

http://www.mrha.co.uk/LeagueTables.asp?leagueid=1&divisionid=3



Im stuck on how to do it, any help would be much appreciated.

Many Thanks in advance,

Ashley
 
D

dorayme

Hi All,

i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.

Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,
so to cut down on the up-keep of the site i think this would really
help as the pages are automatically updated. One of the pages i am
trying to display is

http://www.mrha.co.uk/LeagueTables.asp?leagueid=1&divisionid=3



Im stuck on how to do it, any help would be much appreciated.

Many Thanks in advance,

Ashley
Click to expand...

You can easily embed a slab of html code into any html file by
using "server side includes" or "php includes" (google up these).
This saves you from having to repeat a lot of code everywhere
(eg, menus that get repeated).

If you are wanting to get a whole webpage into another, you might
be thinking of the now outdated and not recommended technology of
HTML Frames. But you could be bold and go against the recommended
trends. Frames are very poor for bookmarking for users and have
other downsides. But they are fun! If you need a hand, give a
shout.

Automatic updating of a website is a very different and more
difficult ask. It mostly involves databases and php. Are you up
for this?

Why not get the basics right first. See:

<http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.mrha
..co.uk%2FLeagueTables.asp%3Fleagueid%3D1%26divisionid%3D3>

You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft
Visual Studio 6.0"

Consider Textwrangler and

<http://www.htmldog.com/>

instead.
 
A

AshParr

You can easily embed a slab of html code into any html file by
using "server side includes" or "php includes" (google up these).
This saves you from having to repeat a lot of code everywhere
(eg, menus that get repeated).

If you are wanting to get a whole webpage into another, you might
be thinking of the now outdated and not recommended technology of
HTML Frames. But you could be bold and go against the recommended
trends. Frames are very poor for bookmarking for users and have
other downsides. But they are fun! If you need a hand, give a
shout.

Automatic updating of a website is a very different and more
difficult ask. It mostly involves databases and php. Are you up
for this?

Why not get the basics right first. See:

<http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.mrha
.co.uk%2FLeagueTables.asp%3Fleagueid%3D1%26divisionid%3D3>

You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft
Visual Studio 6.0"

Consider Textwrangler and

<http://www.htmldog.com/>

instead.
Click to expand...


Thanks for the reply,

"You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft"
Visual Studio 6.0" " i havnt used this program.

i am not updating the page myself, the "mrha" group update there
website and i am just wanting to show that specific page inside one of
my pages, not using frames.

i have found this but dont really understand it

HTML:

<!--[if IE]> <object classid="clsid:
25336920-03F9-11CF-8FD0-00AA00686F13" data="some.html"> <p>backup
content</p> </object> <![endif]--> <!--[if !IE]> <--> <object
type="text/html" data="some.html"> <p>backup content</p> </object>
<!--> <![endif]-->

This worked like a charm, but in IE (both 6 and 7) it shows with an
ugly border and scrollbar, even though the content itself was less
than the width and height of the object element. It turned out that I
need to specify this in the included page:

HTML:


.... <body style="border:0;overflow:visible">
 
A

AshParr

<[email protected]>,
Click to expand...
You can easily embed a slab of html code into any html file by
using "server side includes" or "php includes" (google up these).
This saves you from having to repeat a lot of code everywhere
(eg, menus that get repeated).
Click to expand...
If you are wanting to get a whole webpage into another, you might
be thinking of the now outdated and not recommended technology of
HTML Frames. But you could be bold and go against the recommended
trends. Frames are very poor for bookmarking for users and have
other downsides. But they are fun! If you need a hand, give a
shout.
Click to expand...
Automatic updating of a website is a very different and more
difficult ask. It mostly involves databases and php. Are you up
for this?
Click to expand...
Why not get the basics right first. See:

You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft
Visual Studio 6.0"
Click to expand...
Consider Textwrangler and
Click to expand...
- Show quoted text -
Click to expand...

Thanks for the reply,

"You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft"
Visual Studio 6.0" " i havnt used this program.

i am not updating the page myself, the "mrha" group update there
website and i am just wanting to show that specific page inside one of
my pages, not using frames.

i have found this but dont really understand it

HTML:

<!--[if IE]> <object classid="clsid:
25336920-03F9-11CF-8FD0-00AA00686F13" data="some.html"> <p>backup
content</p> </object> <![endif]--> <!--[if !IE]> <--> <object
type="text/html" data="some.html"> <p>backup content</p> </object>
<!--> <![endif]-->

This worked like a charm, but in IE (both 6 and 7) it shows with an
ugly border and scrollbar, even though the content itself was less
than the width and height of the object element. It turned out that I
need to specify this in the included page:

HTML:

.... <body style="border:0;overflow:visible">- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Click to expand...

since i posted i also found this:

Show Website Within a Website:

<object data=http://www.web-source.net width="600" height="400">
<embed src=http://www.web-source.net width="600" height="400"> </
embed> Error: Embedded data could not be displayed. </object>

but i donot know how to configure this
 
B

Bergamot

i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.
Click to expand...

I know what you're thinking, since I've done some web work for local
sports teams, too. The league keeps the schedules, scores and standings
on their own site. At first we tried duplicating it on our own site, but
it was too error prone. We finally just posted links to the league pages
that related to our team and left it at that.
Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,
Click to expand...

You can probably "embed" the pages from the league site using an iframe,
but you really must ask their permission before you do this. Otherwise
you are stealing their content and bandwidth. They might not like that.
 
A

AshParr

I know what you're thinking, since I've done some web work for local
sports teams, too. The league keeps the schedules, scores and standings
on their own site. At first we tried duplicating it on our own site, but
it was too error prone. We finally just posted links to the league pages
that related to our team and left it at that.


You can probably "embed" the pages from the league site using an iframe,
but you really must ask their permission before you do this. Otherwise
you are stealing their content and bandwidth. They might not like that.
Click to expand...

Thankyou all for your responses,
later on i found information about iframes to and found that it does
what i want it to, are they not to be used? what are the affects if i
use them?
 
B

Bergamot

later on i found information about iframes to and found that it does
what i want it to, are they not to be used? what are the affects if i
use them?
Click to expand...

Look up "frames are evil". iframes have pretty much the same problems,
but they do have their uses. Like I said, if you decide to put the
league pages in your site through iframes, get their permission first.
 
A

AshParr

Look up "frames are evil". iframes have pretty much the same problems,
but they do have their uses. Like I said, if you decide to put the
league pages in your site through iframes, get their permission first.
Click to expand...


Thankyou berg,

I have emailed the owners/administrators of the site explaining what i
want to do and is it possible for me to show their information.

I know that frames may not be the best answer in most cases but for
this i see no other alternative. I can either:
- Show data in Iframe
- Just allow the user links to there site
- Update all of the fixtures, results & league tables every week
(Massive work load & maintenance involved)

If they allow me to show their data then i cannot see a better way to
do so, unless im being a noob :(

Many Thanks,
Ash
 
C

Chaddy2222

[email protected] said:
Thankyou berg,

I have emailed the owners/administrators of the site explaining what i
want to do and is it possible for me to show their information.

I know that frames may not be the best answer in most cases but for
this i see no other alternative. I can either:
- Show data in Iframe
- Just allow the user links to there site
- Update all of the fixtures, results & league tables every week
(Massive work load & maintenance involved)

If they allow me to show their data then i cannot see a better way to
do so, unless im being a noob :(

Many Thanks,
Ash
Click to expand...
You would probably be better off just linking to that page. Or just re-
write the data that you need.
 
B

Bergamot

Chaddy2222 said:
You would probably be better off just linking to that page. Or just re-
write the data that you need.
Click to expand...

You've apparently not worked on a sports team site before. :)
Rewriting the data can be a massive amount of work, and very error
prone. Linking to the league's site is OK, but the users really want the
info right there so they don't have to wade through the league site to
get what they want.

It would *really* be nice, though, if the league had something like an
RSS feed for each team and division. Then we could post updates on our
site as they became available and weed out what we don't want.
 
D

dorayme

Bergamot said:
You've apparently not worked on a sports team site before. :)
Rewriting the data can be a massive amount of work, and very error
prone. Linking to the league's site is OK, but the users really want the
info right there so they don't have to wade through the league site to
get what they want.

It would *really* be nice, though, if the league had something like an
RSS feed for each team and division. Then we could post updates on our
site as they became available and weed out what we don't want.
Click to expand...

If the league put in an id to the bit of the page with the
results and then a url could be fashioned that might help
pinpoint them easier. OP might consider asking for such small
insertions into the mark up of their pages (I have not looked if
they do or not)

<div id="results">...

and the url could be something like

/page.html#results
 
A

AshParr

If the league put in an id to the bit of the page with the
results and then a url could be fashioned that might help
pinpoint them easier. OP might consider asking for such small
insertions into the mark up of their pages (I have not looked if
they do or not)

<div id="results">...

and the url could be something like

/page.html#results
Click to expand...

Cheers for all of the responses to my original post.

I have heard from the web administrator for the website and he said
its not a problem for me to do so. unfortuanatly they do not have rss
feeds but using iframes seem to do the trick

Many Thanks,

Ash
 
D

dorayme

On Oct 24, 12:28 am, dorayme
Click to expand...
Cheers for all of the responses to my original post.

I have heard from the web administrator for the website and he said
its not a problem for me to do so. unfortuanatly they do not have rss
feeds but using iframes seem to do the trick
Click to expand...


Well, fair enough. But if you run into any problems or can't be
bothered maintaining such a frames bases solution, consider the
idea of a more specific targeting of the sports results in a
simple link to their site which uses the "id" I mentioned. The
idea of linking into a sports site and your users having to find
the actual results is, presumably, a major put-off for you. But
if they can go more directly to the results, that would overcome
the problem. And they could go more directly if your cooperative
website administrator would put in an id at the top of the
relevant results on his pages.
 

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