Followup posted to comp.lang.perl.misc as that's where the thread is. I can't
think of anything ruder than changing newsgroups in the middle of a thread
so that the reader sees only some of the articles.
I continue to object to your attribution lines and your refusal to use
correct quoting levels so the reader can readily tell who said what.
[...]
[Cross-posting to and setting
Followup-To: there. Adding on a second
though.]
If you think this discussion is off topic, why did YOU
... And when Followup-To: is then ignored, is the expectation
that two wrongs will make a right? Or is a failure of one
poster to behave is a license to do so for everyone else?
Setting Followup-To is a suggestion, not a directive. The author of the
followup is still responsible for determining where to post.
Because it's a well-established part of the netiquette (which,
IIRC, you've been pointed at before): when moving a conversation
to another newsgroup, keep the subscribers of the former one
informed. One simple way to do it is as follows: add the
relevant groups to Newsgroups:, copy the result to Followup-To:,
remove the irrelevant ones from the latter (only.)
Yet another way is to send a separate followup to the irrelevant
newsgroup, which is what I'm going to do for this response.
There is no well-established part of netiquette that "Ivan Shmakov" has
either the role or responsibility to act as topic censor in any unmoderated
newsgroup. Please provide a list of names of anyone who has ever asked you
to moderate an unmoderated newsgroup.
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My newsreader expects me to add headers, if necessary. If I must
quote an article with non-ASCII characters, I cut them. Typically,
this happens when I encounter articles written by Google Groups users
to which non-plain-text characters have been added (like non-breaking
spaces).
... Which reminds me of the thing I've used to call the
"American Usenet" attitude.
The A in ASCII stands for American.
It might have been useful in the 1960's to have included Chinese
characters or even to include all charactes used by languages that
use Latin characters, but coding space was extremely limited and most
characters in use by others got left out.
However, I don't see what your anti-American sentiment has to do with
what I wrote. I commented that Google Groups creates articles with
non-plain-text characters, which under no circumstances belong in
Usenet articles, no matter what language they were written in. I cut
such characters from quotes, which then allows me to post a followup in
nothing but ASCII.
I don't know why you would have a problem with that, but you're quite a
strange bird.
Naturally, I wouldn't expect one participating in
or
to find a non-MIME newsreader all that
convenient.
Why not? My newsreader provides default headers for articles. All anyone
would have to do is add the necessary MIME headers to the default set.
Then I'd post in compliant MIME if I really needed to declare a character
set.
I like the flexibility. Nothing about this newsreader requires the author
to post in ASCII. The newsreader uses an outside program as text editor
in the composer anyway, so the author would simply use a text editor
appropriate for his own use.