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Bozo Juretic
Hi Ramon!
Yup, I was also delighted to find it.
I have a tipfeller in my post, I wanted to say that MyEclipse is huge
(my myeclipse folder has 1,11 GB, that's without any workspaces), not
Matisse. The main problem is that the whole MyEclipse thing freezes
every now and then, and then it locks everything, which is pretty
annoying. My colleagues have the same problem, so it's not just me.
But, we are still using MyEclipse with integrated Matisse and we like
it a lot.
When it comes to Matisse itself the only problem it has is that if you
are designing frantically as we are, moving things around all the time
as if you had Photoshop before you and not Swing editor, and otherwise
being extremely un-friendly with Matisse, the design breaks every now
and then. On a few occasions we had to recreate the design in a new
file and start from there, because Matisse had its own bugs, and the
original design was unusable (i.e. if you moved something, it behaved
in an unexpected way).
But don't get me wrong - Matisse is great and if you need to make GUIs
in Swing, I absolutely encourage you to use it, as it is the best
Swing designer I know of, and I've tried alot of them before switching
to Matisse.
You can't have it all.
Let's wait and see. Personally I think this whole UI thing is heading
in a different direction; I think the industry is heading towards
Silverlight-like, JavaFX-like, Flash/Flex-like multi-channel
paradigms, where the existing UI technologies will just be parts of a
larger puzzle. Some call it Web 3.0, I think of it in terms of
massive, multi-channel Internet services delivery platforms.
Regards,
Bozo Juretic
Hi BJ:
We have Matisse on Eclipse? That's really good news.
Yup, I was also delighted to find it.
About your lack of performance: could it be that your PC is
underpowered? Is it recent? The sudden death is even more troublesome.
You are probably running Windows, right?
I have a tipfeller in my post, I wanted to say that MyEclipse is huge
(my myeclipse folder has 1,11 GB, that's without any workspaces), not
Matisse. The main problem is that the whole MyEclipse thing freezes
every now and then, and then it locks everything, which is pretty
annoying. My colleagues have the same problem, so it's not just me.
But, we are still using MyEclipse with integrated Matisse and we like
it a lot.
When it comes to Matisse itself the only problem it has is that if you
are designing frantically as we are, moving things around all the time
as if you had Photoshop before you and not Swing editor, and otherwise
being extremely un-friendly with Matisse, the design breaks every now
and then. On a few occasions we had to recreate the design in a new
file and start from there, because Matisse had its own bugs, and the
original design was unusable (i.e. if you moved something, it behaved
in an unexpected way).
But don't get me wrong - Matisse is great and if you need to make GUIs
in Swing, I absolutely encourage you to use it, as it is the best
Swing designer I know of, and I've tried alot of them before switching
to Matisse.
The one thing I don't like about Matisse is its unidirectionality.
You can't have it all.
I just downloaded (haven't tried it yet) WindowBuilder:
http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
I hear that it is really good, bidirectional (as far as such thing is
possible) and therefore it can read and parse Java source code written
by other visual builders.
The solution to the visual design ordeal will be provided (hopefully
soon!) by the standardization of the *.form file format.
Let's wait and see. Personally I think this whole UI thing is heading
in a different direction; I think the industry is heading towards
Silverlight-like, JavaFX-like, Flash/Flex-like multi-channel
paradigms, where the existing UI technologies will just be parts of a
larger puzzle. Some call it Web 3.0, I think of it in terms of
massive, multi-channel Internet services delivery platforms.
Regards,
Bozo Juretic