Another Firefox issue with CSS

Discussion in 'HTML' started by John Brandt, Nov 14, 2004.

  1. John Brandt

    John Brandt Guest

    I have a new design using CSS to position the menu bar as opposed to
    tables. It validates HTML transitional, CSS and looks fine in IE and
    Opera. Firefox on the otherhand does not seem to be able to find the
    external CSS.

    Any suggestions?

    http://www.mainecite.org

    Thanks

    jeb
    John Brandt, Nov 14, 2004
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  2. John Brandt

    brucie Guest

    In alt.html John Brandt said:

    > CSS and looks fine in IE and Opera. Firefox on the otherhand does not
    > seem to be able to find the external CSS.


    nothing wrong with FF, its ignoring the css file as it should.

    your server is misconfigured to send css files as text/html. css should
    be sent as text/css. contact your host to fix it.



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    brucie, Nov 14, 2004
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  3. brucie wrote:

    > In alt.html John Brandt said:
    >
    >> CSS and looks fine in IE and Opera. Firefox on the otherhand does
    >> not seem to be able to find the external CSS.

    >
    > nothing wrong with FF, its ignoring the css file as it should.
    >
    > your server is misconfigured to send css files as text/html. css
    > should be sent as text/css. contact your host to fix it.


    Aw brucie, ya beat me to it. :-(

    Well, then for John, you can reduce your banner graphic to about 16KB
    instead of the 82KB it currently is.

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    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Nov 14, 2004
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  4. John Brandt

    John Brandt Guest

    Wow. You know, I saw a statement to that effect on one of the
    validator sites and I figured it was a glitch. I have never heard of
    this type of server issue. Learn something new every day.

    We are running this site on a FirstClass server so I'm not sure this
    will be easy to figure out. I'll pass this on to our "server guy" and
    see if he can figure out how to change this.

    Thanks for this response. I was pulling the few remaining hairs out of
    my head.

    jeb


    On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:50:01 +1000, brucie <>
    wrote:

    >In alt.html John Brandt said:
    >
    >> CSS and looks fine in IE and Opera. Firefox on the otherhand does not
    >> seem to be able to find the external CSS.

    >
    >nothing wrong with FF, its ignoring the css file as it should.
    >
    >your server is misconfigured to send css files as text/html. css should
    >be sent as text/css. contact your host to fix it.
    John Brandt, Nov 14, 2004
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  5. John Brandt

    Dylan Parry Guest

    John Brandt wrote:

    > http://www.mainecite.org


    Nothing to do with the original question, but what is the logic behind
    having the "d" link towards the top of the page? Does it have some sort
    of accessibility benefit?

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    Dylan Parry, Nov 14, 2004
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  6. John Brandt enlightened us with:
    > You know, I saw a statement to that effect on one of the validator
    > sites and I figured it was a glitch.


    Now you know not to ignore things, even if it appears like a glitch :)


    > I have never heard of this type of server issue. Learn something new
    > every day.


    I've seen it before - very annoying. I've also seen sites where HTML
    is served as text/plain...

    Sybren
    --
    The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a
    capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
    safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
    Sybren Stuvel, Nov 14, 2004
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  7. John Brandt

    John Brandt Guest

    On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 05:00:38 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
    <> wrote:

    >
    >Well, then for John, you can reduce your banner graphic to about 16KB
    >instead of the 82KB it currently is.


    Thank you for this advice and taking the time to make the new file.

    jeb
    John Brandt, Nov 14, 2004
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    Toby Inkster Guest

    Dylan Parry wrote:

    > John Brandt wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.mainecite.org

    >
    > Nothing to do with the original question, but what is the logic behind
    > having the "d" link towards the top of the page?


    In general d-links are used to provide lengthy descriptions of non-text
    content, such as graphics. The kind of thing longdesc would do if it were
    supported by any browsers.

    > Does it have some sort of accessibility benefit?


    In this case, it seems rather pointless. A description of the banner image
    doesn't help you understand the page content any better.

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    Toby Inkster, Nov 14, 2004
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  9. John Brandt

    John Brandt Guest

    On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:30:15 +0000, Dylan Parry
    <> wrote:

    >John Brandt wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.mainecite.org

    >
    >Nothing to do with the original question, but what is the logic behind
    >having the "d" link towards the top of the page? Does it have some sort
    >of accessibility benefit?


    Toby is correct in his description of the "little d." As you could
    telll by reading throught the site, Maine CITE's mission is related to
    assistive technology and accessibilty. We are always trying to the
    make the site as accessible as possible and use it as a "model" so to
    speak. That was the primary reason for updating the design to use CSS
    for positioning as opposed to layout tables - I've heard the
    criticisms in this NG.

    Anyway, it is alway a work in progress and we go beyond some of the
    accessibility standards out there (e.g. WAI, Section 508, etc.).

    jeb
    John Brandt, Nov 15, 2004
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  10. John Brandt

    John Brandt Guest

    On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:31:15 +0100, Sybren Stuvel
    <> wrote:

    >John Brandt enlightened us with:
    >> You know, I saw a statement to that effect on one of the validator
    >> sites and I figured it was a glitch.

    >
    >Now you know not to ignore things, even if it appears like a glitch :)
    >
    >
    >> I have never heard of this type of server issue. Learn something new
    >> every day.

    >
    >I've seen it before - very annoying. I've also seen sites where HTML
    >is served as text/plain...
    >
    >Sybren


    Looks like we got it to work, My "server guy" had noticed the problem
    and it was related to the FirstClass server doing strange things. We
    have fixed the settings and will be alerting the support group for the
    FirstClass server so others don't have the same problem.

    Regarding the recognition of the interpretation of the validator info.
    I almost didn't see it. It noted that the CSS file was essentially
    fine. The notation about the text/htm text/css issue could have been
    easily missed.

    Thanks for helping me to learn.

    jeb
    John Brandt, Nov 15, 2004
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  11. John Brandt enlightened us with:
    > Looks like we got it to work


    Good!

    > My "server guy" had noticed the problem and it was related to the
    > FirstClass server doing strange things.


    Not all that First Class, is it?

    > Regarding the recognition of the interpretation of the validator
    > info. I almost didn't see it. It noted that the CSS file was
    > essentially fine. The notation about the text/htm text/css issue
    > could have been easily missed.


    Perhaps you could send a suggestion to the W3C Validator team, telling
    them how easy it is to miss such an important error.

    > Thanks for helping me to learn.


    NP!

    Sybren
    --
    The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a
    capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
    safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
    Sybren Stuvel, Nov 15, 2004
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