Critique CSS layout (1st go - fingers crossed)

[Lachlan Hunt]

"Lachlan Hunt" wrote in message ...

<hn>? This one I'll need to read up on as I'm not familiar with that one...

<hn> is simply a common abbreviation for the heading elements, <h1> to

PS: I now have this Aussie song stuck in my head because of your name... 3
girls chanting L-A-C-H-L-A-N

I'm not sure what song your referring to.

 

[kchayka]

I am interested in getting the drop downs as a method of removing
screen clutter - 30ish menu items to 4 main areas.

I would suggest not bother making the drop-down submenus accessible to
keyboard users, among which are blind users. Make the 4 top-level items
links to section index pages. List the submenu items as plain text links
on this page.

I suggest this because I am primarily a keyboard user myself. I've come
across a few DHTML menus that automatically open a submenu when focus is
put on the parent menu item. This can be a royal PITA. It means that if
I'm tabbing to get to the last menu, I have to go through all those
other menus first. For someone using a screen reader, they could still
end up listening to 30 links on every page. It is counter-productive.

Granted, there are usually ways for a keyboard user to get around these
annoynaces, but the point is the annoynace needn't be there to begin
with. A limited number of choices per page is not a bad thing. Don't
feel you need to include a site map on every page. Make a separate page
for that and/or include site search.

 

[kchayka]

That's why I'm using default 1024x768, 32 bit with normal font, using
great monitor, 19" CRT ViewSonic with refresh rate 120.

The next resolution is not comfortable for me.

Then don't use it. Your preference doesn't mean no one else should use
it, either. I also have a 19" monitor, but set to 1600x1200. I would set
it even higher, but then the refresh rate would be unacceptable even for me.

I'm about 51 years old and I do wear 2 pairs of glasses. I pair is for
working with computers, other for reading and long distance.

I have a separate pair of glasses, too. My eyesight is not good and gets
worse every year. So what's your point?

And I can't complain about font size of Yahoo.

Which is not surprising considering you're using such a low screen
resolution.

There are ways to compensate for higher resolutions that make text more
readable. You apparently don't need them, but I and many others do. One
of those ways is setting a suitable browser default text size. Yahoo
seems to think I don't know what's good for me in my own browsing
environment.

Just because they're big, doesn't make them right. In fact, big sites
are often some of the worst offenders.

 

[Titus A Ducksass - AKA broken-record]

Inappropriate cross posting removed.




Instead of trying to apply a work around that will fail in certain
circumstances, I'd suggest solving the real problem: to many links on
the page.

If the amount of links is annoying for visual access, how do you think l
it will appear to clients that access it aurally?

That is exactly why I want to change it.

I will get some users together and ask them.

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[Titus A Ducksass - AKA broken-record]

I would suggest not bother making the drop-down submenus accessible to
keyboard users, among which are blind users. Make the 4 top-level items
links to section index pages. List the submenu items as plain text links
on this page.

Makes sense.

I suggest this because I am primarily a keyboard user myself. I've come
across a few DHTML menus that automatically open a submenu when focus is
put on the parent menu item. This can be a royal PITA. It means that if
I'm tabbing to get to the last menu, I have to go through all those
other menus first. For someone using a screen reader, they could still
end up listening to 30 links on every page. It is counter-productive.

It sounds terrible at the moment - menu is on main page only. All
other pages link back to the main page and possibly some sub pages.

Granted, there are usually ways for a keyboard user to get around these
annoynaces, but the point is the annoynace needn't be there to begin
with. A limited number of choices per page is not a bad thing. Don't
feel you need to include a site map on every page. Make a separate page
for that and/or include site search.

Its a site I inherited a couple of years ago which desperately needs
re-branding and a new direction. The site has c.350 pages not
counting the intranet.

There is no site map but there is a google search built in.
I used to use Atomz until they added adverts from google.
I now use google without adverts. <GRIN>.


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[lime]

<hn> is simply a common abbreviation for the heading elements, <h1> to
<h6>, where n represents the number. There is actually no <hn> element in
HTML, I just incorrectly assumed you would understand what I meant.

Aha! Simple, thanks.

I'm not sure what song your referring to.

They play it on Triple J, it's by "Your wedding night", it's actually 2
girls chanting not 3. Great song...

 

[Leonard Blaisdell]

AFAIK, there is no IE 5.5 for Mac. Is that a typo?

Sure was. I only wish I had something higher than 5.1.

leo

 

[Uncle Pirate]

http://www.limelightstudio.com.au/iss/html/

Nice work. Clean, simple, easy on the eyes.

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