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Ed Mullen

Stan said:
Two spaces is *not* conventional after a full stop, any more than
"between he and I" is conventional in grammar. It is a common error,
and that's all.

Not sure what you mean by "conventional." Whose convention? Specified
when? In what context? Defined by whom for what?

It sure was how I was taught touch typing in 1963. Period, space space.
I might even have an old style manual around here somewhere. If I do
I'll look it up. But, my memory is firm on that, and so is the memory
built into my touch-typing finger tips.

I agree, the Web is different. Not sure why the decision was made on
collapsing spaces was made. Not sure it makes any sense to me at all.
But, ok, that's the way it is, fine, I'll get with the program when
working on the Web. No problem. I'm still curious how and why that
decision was made to abandon an long standard practice.
 
E

Ed Mullen

Ben said:
That's it. I felt compelled to try a Dutch word list for some richer
piicckkings.

aaneennaai
aaneennaaide
aaneennaaiden
aaneennaaien
aaneennaait
aannaai
aannaaide
aannaaiden
aannaaien
aannaaiend
aannaait
aanneem
aanneembaar
aanneembare
aanneemsom
aanneemsommen
aanneemster
aanneemsters
aanneemt
actievoorraad
beheerraad
bevoorraad
bevoorraadde
bevoorraadden
bevoorraadt
borduurraam
buffervoorraad
dooddeel
dooddeelde
dooddeelden
dooddeelt
doorreed
doorrook
doorrookt
doorrookte
doorrookten
doorrookter
doorrooktst
dwaalleer
eerroof
figuurraadsel
figuurraadsels
goederenvoorraad
goudvoorraad
hamstervoorraad
hooggaand
hooggaande
hooggaander
hooggaandere
hooggaandst
hooggaandste
ijzervoorraad
kasvoorraad
koollaag
leeggooi
leeggooide
leeggooiden
leeggooien
leeggooit
leeggoot
maalloon
materiaalleer
mondvoorraad
muntvoorraad
nooddoop
noodvoorraad
overreedde
overreedden
plaaggeest
plaaggeesten
reservevoorraad
restantvoorraad
spreekkoor
spreekuurrooster
steekkaart
steekkaarten
steenkoollaag
straattaal
stuurreep
tamboereerraam
teellaag
toneellaars
toneellaarzen
uiteenneem
uiteenneembaar
uiteenneembare
uiteenneemt
uurrooster
uurroosters
verraadde
verraadden
vertaalloon
voedselvoorraad
voorraad
voorraadadministratie
voorraadaftrek
voorraadbeheer
voorraadbeheersing
voorraadbestand
voorraadbewaking
voorraadboek
voorraadboeken
voorraadcontrole
voorraadgegevens
voorraadhoeveelheden
voorraadhoudende
voorraadhuis
voorraadhuizen
voorraadje
voorraadkaart
voorraadkaarten
voorraadkamer
voorraadkamers
voorraadkast
voorraadkosten
voorraadniveau
voorraadpeil
voorraadrekening
voorraadschuren
voorraadschuur
voorraadtank
voorraadtanks
voorraadvat
voorraadvorming
voorraam
voorreed
vuurrood
vuurroodst
weekkaart
weekkaarten
winkelvoorraad
wintervoorraad
woordvoorraad
woordvoorraaden
zoolleer

Geez! And they say English is a hard language to learn! :)
 
B

Blinky the Shark

Ed said:
Gee, 11 years after I learned. Maybe those extra 11 years were a
stronger imprinting on my brain? ;-)

I had typing class before either of you. And, dammit, I want a trophy or
something.
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

Ed said:
I agree, the Web is different. Not sure why the decision was made on
collapsing spaces was made. Not sure it makes any sense to me at all.
But, ok, that's the way it is, fine, I'll get with the program when
working on the Web. No problem. I'm still curious how and why that
decision was made to abandon an long standard practice.

<p>
As the line wraps in the markup there may be more
then one white space character, like here with a
carriage return and a tab as the markup is indented
for pretty printing. What would happen if the white
space was not interpreted as a single space?
</p>


As the line wraps in the markup there may be more then one white...
^^
 
D

dorayme

Ed Mullen said:
Not sure why the decision was made on
collapsing spaces was made. Not sure it makes any sense to me at all.

It makes life easier, surely. Would you want to be watching your
spaces like a hawk when marking up an html doc?
 
B

Blinky the Shark

Stan said:
Two spaces is *not* conventional after a full stop, any more than
"between he and I" is conventional in grammar. It is a common error,
and that's all.

Apples/oranges. Two spaces was *taught*; I doubt that your "between he
and I" was. Also apples/oranges: one's grammar, the other's display
convention.
 
E

Ed Mullen

Blinky said:
I had typing class before either of you. And, dammit, I want a trophy or
something.

You know what? You deserve one. So here ya go:

http://edmullen.net/temp/fingers.jpg

Congratulations!!!

Now, type away! "period space space" or, .__ or, . back there. <<--

Besides, you've got a great online persona. It constantly perplexes me,
but in a good way!

Now, I probably should go to sleep. I mean, the fumes from the
glue/mastic, or whatever the tile guys used to lay the new tiles in the
guest bath today are making me goofy. Well. It could be the Jim Beam.

Still, I haven't been this high in about 35 years. Damn. If I knew it
only cost $22K ... uh. Never mind. Just rethought the whole thing.
Let's see. For 22k I could have bought ... well. Nothing that would
please my wife as much. And, heck, a year and a half ago I bought a new
car and a new guitar. So, ya know, it was someone else's time.

Still, damn, those fumes are amazing! What the heck in that stuff???
Can't wait to smell the grout tomorrow!

Yeah! That's it! "Wake up and smell the grout." Lovely quote!
 
B

Ben C

I've been using Vim for many years, and I can assure you that is not
default behavior. You, or someone on your behalf, may have set up
some sort of mapping.

I've found it in the manual, it's the joinspaces option, and it is on by
default:

'joinspaces' 'js' boolean (default on)
global
{not in Vi}
Insert two spaces after a '.', '?' and '!' with a join command.
When 'cpoptions' includes the 'j' flag, only do this after a '.'.
Otherwise only one space is inserted.
NOTE: This option is set when 'compatible' is set.

gq uses the join command. You will notice that the vim manual itself is
written with two spaces after every .

I might turn it off actually, since it causes inconsistency as I only
type one space.
 
E

Els

Michael said:
.oO(Els)


"Angstschrei" in German, quite similar.

Yup, quite so.
But, do you also have as many words with consecutive triplets of
doubled letters? :)
 
E

Els

Harlan said:
I'd be surprised if it did since I made it up. <g>

Not too bad for a non-Dutch person then - at least you knew where to
find the consonants, even if the two words didn't match together :)
See, I knew "schr" had to be involved.

'chts' wasn't a bad attempt either.
 
M

Michael Fesser

..oO(Els)
Yup, quite so.
But, do you also have as many words with consecutive triplets of
doubled letters? :)

I can't think of any, actually ... ;)

Micha
 
E

Els

Ed said:
Ben said:
That's it. I felt compelled to try a Dutch word list for some richer
piicckkings. [snip lengthy list]
woordvoorraad
woordvoorraaden
zoolleer

Geez! And they say English is a hard language to learn! :)

At least the pronunciation in Dutch is (mostly) consistent with the
spelling.
Try and make sense of English:
deer, beer, dear, bear, wear and tear, tear (on a cheek), new, sew ...

:)
 
E

Els

Michael said:
.oO(Els)


I can't think of any, actually ... ;)

I think that's because you use an 'h' to lengthen the sound of a vowel
where needed. I guess the only other language with as many doubled
letters is Finnish. They can even double the 'i'.
 
E

Els

Blinky said:
Imagine the difficulty of participating in a Dutch spelling
beebeebeebeebee.

Wouldn't be hard at all, if it weren't for the fact that they *change*
the official spelling every few years :-(
 

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