Python Success stories

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azrael

Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.

Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"

This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.
 
D

Diez B. Roggisch

azrael said:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.

Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"

This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.

This isn't worth too much, but nontheless:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

Klick on Perl & Python respectively to see who's going to need to use
something else some day.

But the real problem is not your friend - it's you. He hurts you because
you let him. Stop getting mad about that he teases you.

Diez
 
M

Marco Mariani

azrael said:
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"

This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.

He's joking. Perl is a dysfunctional language and its users need a
strong sense of humor to go on, day after day.
 
M

Max M

azrael skrev:
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"

When I started writing in Python in the nineties there was a lot of
tech-media coverage of Perl. Python was always mentioned as a rival to
Perl in those articles.

These days Python is mentioned in a lot of tech-articles. Perl is never
mentioned as a rival in those articles. Other languages like Ruby are.


Ok I am Python biased, but I don't see anything happen on the Perl front
anymore. It has simply gone quiet.


--

hilsen/regards Max M, Denmark

http://www.mxm.dk/
IT's Mad Science
 
A

azrael

Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
But i can't come up with a big name. I know that there are a lot of
companys using python, but is there anythong big written only in
python. I want him to **** of with his perl once and for all time
 
B

Bruno Desthuilliers

azrael a écrit :
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
s/proud/stupid/

Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"

This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.

Don't let cretins hurt you. One of my best friends who is a die-hard
Perl addict really loves Python too, and finds this kind of pissing
contests more than stupid.
 
C

Carl Banks

Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.

Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"

This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.


Let me tell you a little story to let you know how you should act in
situations like this. Some of you might have heard it before.
Apologies if it's a bit long.



There was once a young man who absolutely loved clowns. He always
dreamed of meeting a clown, and laughing at their silly antics, but he
lived in a rural small town and never got to see any.

Then one day when the circus came to town. The young man was
unbelievably excited, he was finally going to be able to see a clown!
He camped out at the ticket booth and was the first in line to get a
ticket, because he so loved clowns that he wanted to sit right up
front.

The yound man never had a better time in his life, watching all the
clowns and their funny tricks. Then a young talented clown came out
to work the crowd. He went right up to the young man, who couldn't
believe his luck: a clown was doing his act with him!

The clown asked the man, "Are you front end of an ass?"

The young man said, "Um, no."

Then the clown asked the man, "Are you the rear end of an ass?"

The young man, a little confused, said, "No."

Then the clown, with nearly perfect comedic timing, said, "Then you
must be no end of an ass!"

The crowd roared with laughter, but the young man was crushed. He
couldn't believe that the clowns he adored so much could be so mean.

He went home from the circus utterly distraught and humiliated, and
soon fell into a deep depression. He eventually lost his job, then
his home. He became a vagrant and spent his days living on the
streets.

The years passed by.

One day, the now old man saw that the circus was coming back to town.
And not only that, but the same clown who had humiliated him years ago
was headlining the circus. It brought back terrible and long-
suppressed memories, which he told to a social worker at the homeless
shelter he was staying at.

The social worker felt very moved by the old man's story, and told the
old man, "You know, maybe you could overcome with your problems if you
could face that clown again and give him his comeupance."

The old man was horrified. After the incident he had developed an
intense fear of clowns. Yet he somehow felt the social worker was
right. "I'd like to do that," he said, "but what if the clown
humilates me again?"

"Don't worry," said the social worker, "I have the perfect retort."

So the social worker and the old man bought front row seats to the
circus. Within a few minutes, the old man was enjoying himself
immensely. It was the best therapy he'd ever had, and the old man
felt that after so many years he would finally be able to put his life
back together.

Until the final act.

The same clown who had humiliated the old man many years before was
now an old veteran on his final tour. The clown went right up to the
old man and began to work the same routine.

("Don't worry," whispered the social worker to he old man as the clown
approached, "I have perfect retort.")

The clown asked the old man, "Are you front end of an ass?"

The old man said, "No."

Then the clown asked the old man, "Are you the rear end of an ass?"

The old man, positively scared, meekly said, "No."

Then the clown, with utterly perfect comedic timing, said, "Then you
must be no end of an ass!"

The crowd roared with laughter. The man was humiliated again. But
the social winked at him, indicating that he would soon give the clown
the perfect retort. The old man couldn't wait to hear what it was.

Suddenly the social worker stood up and shouted, "Hey clown!"

The crowd hushed, and clown whirled around to look at him.

"F**k you!"



(It makes even more sense when you consider that Perl programmers
pretty much are clowns.)

Carl Banks
 
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Paul Melis

azrael said:
Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
But i can't come up with a big name. I know that there are a lot of
companys using python, but is there anythong big written only in
python. I want him to **** of with his perl once and for all time

Not really "big" in terms of lines of code, but definitely well-known
and widespread: the official BitTorrent client is written in Python (and
has been since the beginning I believe).

Regards,
Paul
 
M

Max Erickson

Ben Finney said:
I don't know if I've heard it before; it's rather unmemorable.

What lesson is it intended to teach, other than that "**** you"
is somehow a "retort"? I can't see that improving too many
situations.

I got something like "Don't waste your life worrying about what some
damn clown said" out of it.

You don't even need to swear at the clown to make it work.


max
 
B

Banibrata Dutta

"F**k you" -- is generally an indication of "creativity blackout"
followed by "frustration". Not exactly a clever retort.
 
G

GHUM

Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,

There are no big applications written in Python.

Big applications are written in JAVA or COBOL or C# or other legacy
programming systems.

If you programm in Python, your applications become quite small. Only
frameworks in Python are big.

best wishes

Harald


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Submit your talk NOW
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G

Gabriel Genellina

D

D'Arcy J.M. Cain

There are no big applications written in Python.

Big applications are written in JAVA or COBOL or C# or other legacy
programming systems.

If you programm in Python, your applications become quite small. Only
frameworks in Python are big.

So the fact that there are no big applications written in Python IS the
success story.
 
S

s0suk3

Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.

Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"

This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.

Those would be insulting statements, but only if he wouldn't be a Perl
programmer. Everyone knows Perl's best days are long gone. Perl is not
a competent language anymore. I bet your friend is a system
administrator or something like that, because the only use for Perl is
writing quick-and-dirty scripts, and that's something that sysadmins
do the whole day.

Anyway, seeing that nobody has posted on the "big applications"
matter, here are some examples: Zope ( http://www.zope.org ), Medusa
( http://www.nightmare.com/medusa ), Grail ( http://grail.sourceforge.net
).

On the "Python vs. Perl" matter, well, just search "Python Perl" on
Google or some other search engine, you'll literally find nothing but
pages talking about how Python is better than Perl.

On the other hand, I do admit that there's no other language better
than Perl to write a 3-10 line long program. In those cases, the Perl
version will not only be smaller than the C version, but even smaller
than the Python version. This is mostly due to Perls default variables
and "magic" events (like reading a line of a file directly into $_
when you're doing while (<FILE>) {...}, or automatically converting
between integer/string or scalar/list depending on the operators and
context ).

But a competent developer won't be writing such small scripts, unless,
as I said, you're a sysadmin or something like that. Otherwise,
there's no reason to use something as ugly and unconventional as Perl.
 
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Paul Boddie

What lesson is it intended to teach, other than that "**** you" is
somehow a "retort"? I can't see that improving too many situations.

It isn't supposed to teach anything: it's a joke! It'd be more
relevant (yet somewhat surreal if detached from this particular
context) if it ended with the social worker saying...

"Hey clown! What happened to Perl 6?"

Paul
 
J

Jérémy Wagner

Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :

How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
whereas at the same time it does support the += operator ???

No python developer I know has been able to answer that.



Istvan Albert a écrit :
 

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