Rails and Ruby in Germany -> Rails is Ruby killer application

Discussion in 'Ruby' started by Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT, Jan 15, 2006.

  1. Hi!

    For a quite some time Ruby's lead an orphan's life. Even university
    book stores in Bonn (former capital) and Cologne (one of the biggest
    cities in Germany) had few if any books on Ruby in stock. This
    situation persisted for at least two years.

    The change took place when Rails entered the scene and "Agile Web
    Development with Rails" was published. Suddenly Ruby books that in
    principle were already available for quite some time) popped up like
    mushrooms.

    By definition of the term "killer application" this means that Rails
    is a Ruby killer application: An application that nicely demonstrates
    some of the many advantages of Ruby and at the same time strongly
    increases the number of people who know what it is good for.

    Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
    Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT, Jan 15, 2006
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  2. On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:01:11 +0100, Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT <> =20
    wrote:

    > Hi!
    >
    > For a quite some time Ruby's lead an orphan's life. Even university
    > book stores in Bonn (former capital) and Cologne (one of the biggest
    > cities in Germany) had few if any books on Ruby in stock. This
    > situation persisted for at least two years.
    >
    > The change took place when Rails entered the scene and "Agile Web
    > Development with Rails" was published. Suddenly Ruby books that in
    > principle were already available for quite some time) popped up like
    > mushrooms.
    >
    > By definition of the term "killer application" this means that Rails
    > is a Ruby killer application: An application that nicely demonstrates
    > some of the many advantages of Ruby and at the same time strongly
    > increases the number of people who know what it is good for.
    >
    > Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
    >



    Well yay, I hope the trend spreads on. Me wanna translated printed Pickax=
    e =20
    2 ;P

    David Vallner
    David Vallner, Jan 15, 2006
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  3. Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT wrote:


    > For a quite some time Ruby's lead an orphan's life. Even university
    > book stores in Bonn (former capital) and Cologne (one of the biggest
    > cities in Germany) had few if any books on Ruby in stock. This
    > situation persisted for at least two years.
    >
    > The change took place when Rails entered the scene and "Agile Web
    > Development with Rails" was published. Suddenly Ruby books that in
    > principle were already available for quite some time) popped up like
    > mushrooms.


    Wasn't there a ruby book written originaly in German some time before rails?
    I read it in a bookstore (in Marburg, small city but ahead of the times in
    some points ;-) and that got me hooked on the language. Didn't buy it then,
    cause I didn't realy have the time for learning another language even
    though the book had cute manga-girls! (I'm hopeless, I know...)

    > By definition of the term "killer application" this means that Rails
    > is a Ruby killer application: An application that nicely demonstrates
    > some of the many advantages of Ruby and at the same time strongly
    > increases the number of people who know what it is good for.


    Having done nothing more than playing around with rails I am a bit weary of
    ruby being recognized as "a part of rails" by many people. We of course
    know it's good for much more than just web development!

    --
    Martin Kaletsch
    Martin Kaletsch, Jan 16, 2006
    #3
  4. > For a quite some time Ruby's lead an orphan's life. Even university
    > book stores in Bonn (former capital) and Cologne (one of the biggest
    > cities in Germany) had few if any books on Ruby in stock. This
    > situation persisted for at least two years.
    >=20


    By the way, are there any local ruby (or rails) communities/user groups
    in Germany? M=FCnchen, K=F6ln, Berlin?

    Cheers,
    Paulus
    Paulus Esterhazy, Jan 17, 2006
    #4
  5. Call for Participants: Koeln (Cologne)/Bonn area Ruby User Group - (Was: Rails and Ruby in Germany ...)

    Hi!

    Hi!

    At Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:57:01 +0900, Paulus Esterhazy wrote:
    >
    > > For a quite some time Ruby's lead an orphan's life. Even university
    > > book stores in Bonn (former capital) and Cologne (one of the biggest
    > > cities in Germany) had few if any books on Ruby in stock. This
    > > situation persisted for at least two years.
    > >

    >
    > By the way, are there any local ruby (or rails) communities/user
    > groups in Germany? Muenchen, Koeln, Berlin?


    *Deutsch siehe unten*

    If you receive this message via Ruby-de-talk please note that the
    thread's origin is Ruby-talk!

    I repeatedly suggested a Cologne/Bonn area Ruby User Group but up to
    now there simply weren't enough people interested in such a group.

    Although fonding a "Verein" is *very* German, I do *not* intend to set
    up a so called "Verein" because that involves an organizational
    overhead that is incompatible to The Ruby Way (TM). Bonn's Linux User
    Group shows that one does not need a Verein to organize regular
    meetings. If a Verein infrastructure should ever happen to be required
    (say in order to find sponsors who support a European Ruby Convention
    taking place at Cologne) I am confident that Cologne's "Computer Club
    Pascal" would provide it. They already provide one of Cologne's Linux
    User Groups (the "Linux-Workshop") with such an infrastructure.

    In short: Who is interested in building a Cologne/Bonn area Ruby User
    Group?

    *English see above*

    Sofern Sie diese Nachricht via Ruby-de-talk erhalten, beachten Sie
    bitte, dass der Ursprung dieses Threads Ruby-talk ist.

    Ich habe wiederholt vorgeschlagen, eine Ruby-Benutzergruppe fuer den
    Bereich Koeln/Bonn aufzubauen aber bislang gab es einfach nicht genug
    Leute, die sich fuer eine solche Gruppe interessieren.

    Obwohl das Gruenden von "Vereinen" sehr deutsch ist, habe ich *nicht*
    die Absicht, einen so genannten "Verein" einzureichten, weil der damit
    verbundene organisatorische Overhead zu "The Ruby Way (TM)"
    inkompatibel ist. Die bonner Linux-Benutzergruppe zeigt, dass man
    keinen Verein benoetigt, um regelmaessige Treffen zu organisieren.
    Sollte tatsaechlich einmal eine Vereins-Infratruktur benoetigt werden
    (sagen wir, um Sponsoren zu finden, die eine in Koeln stattfindende
    European Ruby Convention unterstuetzen, bin ich mir ziemlich sicher,
    dass der Koelner "Computer Club Pascal" diese Bereitstellen wuerde.
    Sie stellen bereits einer der Koelner Linux-Benutzergruppen (dem
    "Linux-Workshop") eine solche zur Verfuegung.

    Kurz: Wer hat Interesse daran, eine Ruby User Group fuer den Bereich
    Koeln/Bonn aufzubauen?

    Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
    Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
    --
    Wer Nutzen aus Folterungen zieht oder dies befuerwortet, darf als
    ausgewiesener Feind der freiheitlich-demokratischen Grundordnung kein
    politisches Amt bekleiden. Ein etwaiger Beamtenstatus ist aus dem
    gleichen Grunde umgehend zu entziehen.
    Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT, Jan 20, 2006
    #5
  6. Paulus Esterhazy wrote:
    >> For a quite some time Ruby's lead an orphan's life. Even university
    >> book stores in Bonn (former capital) and Cologne (one of the biggest
    >> cities in Germany) had few if any books on Ruby in stock. This
    >> situation persisted for at least two years.
    >>

    >
    > By the way, are there any local ruby (or rails) communities/user groups
    > in Germany? München, Köln, Berlin?


    There's Hamburg.rb, well in Hamburg, although that (sadly) went a bit
    silent (after I moved to Munich).

    But there is the idea of forming a Ruby/Rails group im Munich.

    Happy rubying

    StePhan
    Stephan Kämper, Jan 24, 2006
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