Spammer question

[Tim]

I'm being spammed by a website and I found an email account on their
website was (e-mail address removed).
I'm thinking of setting up a yahoo account to spam them back.
Anybody know if this is going to cause me problems with the law,
especially if I'm polite in my spamming back?
Anybody want to join in?

 

[Chris Smith]

I'm being spammed by a website and I found an email account on their
website was (e-mail address removed).
I'm thinking of setting up a yahoo account to spam them back.
Anybody know if this is going to cause me problems with the law,
especially if I'm polite in my spamming back?
Anybody want to join in?

Laws against spamming are generally not enforcable. However, the legal
situation of your sending unsolicited email would be exactly the same as
the legal situation of their sending unsolicited email. Furthermore, I
should think that regardless of legal problems, you would have moral
problems with spam, especially when you seem so obviously upset about
receiving it.

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Chris Smith - Lead Software Developer/Technical Trainer
MindIQ Corporation

 

[Andrew Thompson]

....
| I'm being spammed by a website
.....
| I'm thinking of setting up a yahoo account to spam them back.

That is a very bad idea. It was discussed
at length on one of the
computer.infosystems.www.???
groups a while back, and though I am a bit
fuzzy on the details, there were at least 20
good reasons put forward not to do it.

| Anybody want to join in?

Thanks, no. And I would implore you to
not do it either. It just adds to the problem.

Whatever the solution to these _scum_ is,
that is not it. :-(

 

[Thomas Schodt]

I'm being spammed by a website and I found an email account on their
website was (e-mail address removed).
I'm thinking of setting up a yahoo account to spam them back.
Anybody know if this is going to cause me problems with the law,
especially if I'm polite in my spamming back?

That sort of thing is generally frowned upon.
What if somone faked it to look like it came from there.

Your ISP should be able to help you figure out who the real spammer and
the real spammers ISP are and get the spammers connection cut off.

Try sending a query to abuse@yourisp

 

[Tim]

Laws against spamming are generally not enforcable. However, the legal
situation of your sending unsolicited email would be exactly the same as
the legal situation of their sending unsolicited email. Furthermore, I
should think that regardless of legal problems, you would have moral
problems with spam, especially when you seem so obviously upset about
receiving it.

Well, it may not be considered unsolicited, depending on your definition.
Obviously, I'm not sending it to them without reason.

 

[Tim]

Well, it may not be considered unsolicited, depending on your definition.
Obviously, I'm not sending it to them without reason.

And, it may not be spam, since I'm only sending it to them.

 

[Andrew Thompson]

m...
....
| >>> I'm being spammed by a website and I found an email account
on their
....
| And, it may not be spam, since I'm only sending it to them.

There are innocent networks between
you and them that will have to suffer
the bandwidth.

If you do not send much you will be
ineffectual, if you send a great deal,
you will be hurting innocent parties
in the process.

Further, I had a closer look at my 'deleted
mail' (yes, I am getting them as well) that
comes through the 'junk' account I risk
exposing to usenet, these emails are looking
like a 'set-up' as Thomas suggested.

I suspect someone got angry off with this
company and decided to hurt them by
spamming usenet in the hope someone
would do exactly what you are proposing.

Please do _not_ become part of the problem!

[ I think the saying.. 'Fighting for peace is like
f**king for virginity' is most appropriate here]

 

[Tim]

m...
...
| >>> I'm being spammed by a website and I found an email account
on their
...
| And, it may not be spam, since I'm only sending it to them.

There are innocent networks between
you and them that will have to suffer
the bandwidth.

It is a trivial amount, by network standards.

If you do not send much you will be
ineffectual, if you send a great deal,
you will be hurting innocent parties
in the process.

Further, I had a closer look at my 'deleted
mail' (yes, I am getting them as well) that
comes through the 'junk' account I risk
exposing to usenet, these emails are looking
like a 'set-up' as Thomas suggested.

I doubt it. If it is, then the owner should call the police and have
them investigate. Otherwise, they (the owner of the store) can be
inconvienienced like I am.

I suspect someone got angry off with this
company and decided to hurt them by
spamming usenet

They aren't spamming usenet, they are spamming my email account.


in the hope someone

would do exactly what you are proposing.

Please do _not_ become part of the problem!

[ I think the saying.. 'Fighting for peace is like
f**king for virginity' is most appropriate here]

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[Tim]

Governments aren't doing enough to stop it so I think we have to piss
them off enough to get them to stop.
Flooding their order email address will inconvienience them enough if
enough people send 2 or 3 each time they receive a spam from this company.

 

[Chris Smith]

Governments aren't doing enough to stop it so I think we have to piss
them off enough to get them to stop.
Flooding their order email address will inconvienience them enough if
enough people send 2 or 3 each time they receive a spam from this company.

Wow! I definitely prefer spam.

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Chris Smith - Lead Software Developer/Technical Trainer
MindIQ Corporation

 

[Andrew Thompson]

m...
| Andrew Thompson wrote:
| >
| > m...
| > ...
| > | >>> I'm being spammed by a website and I found an email
account
| > on their
| > ...
| > | And, it may not be spam, since I'm only sending it to them.
| >
| > There are innocent networks between
| > you and them that will have to suffer
| > the bandwidth.
|
| It is a trivial amount, by network standards.

Oh? You based that on the stats of the
network you administer?

FTR, I do not administer networks,
but network overhead _was_ cited
in the conversation in c.i.w.a.??

Further, an email I was trying to send
to someone recently was continually
rejected by the ISP of the recipient
because it was coming _through_ a
server that had been spamming them.

| > Further, I had a closer look at my 'deleted
| > mail' (yes, I am getting them as well) that
| > comes through the 'junk' account I risk
| > exposing to usenet, these emails are looking
| > like a 'set-up' as Thomas suggested.
|
| I doubt it. If it is, then the owner should call the police and
have
| them investigate.

What makes you think they are not?

|..Otherwise, they (the owner of the store) can be
| inconvienienced like I am.

And everybody in between.

| > I suspect someone got angry off with this
| > company and decided to hurt them by
| > spamming usenet
|
| They aren't spamming usenet, they are spamming my email
account.

It sounds like you are desperately
trying to convince yourself that the
actions you propose are sensible in
spite of three people indicating
otherwise.

Since the indications are that 100's,
scores, or even _any_ others are
unwilling to join you in this pointless
and counterproductive exercise, I
no longer care.