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rf
Jpegs will be required. Might even pop over the river and watch
Jpegs will be required. Might even pop over the river and watch
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Travis Newbury
It is your lack of knowledge about Flash development and Actionscript
that causes you to disagree. What I am saying is that a good Flash
developer can make a site filed with Flash that is no heavier than the
same site with HTML and images. The Flash you are use to seeing is
fat and bloated.
A good flash developer has nothing to disguise. Flash is not
inherently fat and bloated. Bad Flash is. The problem comes from
Flash was originally used my artists, Actionscript was almost
powerless. When MX was released Marcomedia started to see the
benefits in having a powerful scripting language. The ability to make
Flash lighter had appeared. Now with Flash CS and AS 3.0, a very
powerful development language, I now have the ability to create very
light Flash object that are more powerful that anything earlier
version of Flash could do.
Well you take a base line. From there you look and listen.
Google's product is words, and its visitors are looking for words. It
would be dumb for them to use Flash for anything that produces those
words. The Warcraft site is visual, about a game, its visitors are
looking for fun and action. You can't do that with words (at lease
not to todays kids). A site developer has to do a little research
before they can make any decision about the technologies they will use
on their site, and how they will use them. Blanket rules don't work.
Every site must cater to its customers or the customers will go to
another site that does cater to them. So using flash just because you
can is dumb. Using Flash because it make your site better to those
that will actually use your site is smart. And the exact opposite is
true too. NOT using Flash when that is what your customers are
demanding is equally as dumb.
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Travis Newbury
So many here are polluting visitors with this "Web sites must be
usable by all no matter what!" Philosophy that I must chime in with
business reality.
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Travis Newbury
No, but did anyone else think that 7-of-9 was REALLY hot when she had
the Borg makeup on?
Average is good? Come on Nerebojias. That has such a socialistic
ring to it. KIDS Grow up to be AVERAGE!!!
;-)
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Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:23:49 GMT
dorayme scribed:
I've heard of skinless wieners, but...
Well, whaddya have? Scales? An exoskeleton, perhaps. I hope you're not
one of those boogary, blob-type creatures which slithers around sliming up
the whole world for sport. The last time I saw a movie like that, I didn't
pick my nose for a whole week.
dorayme scribed:
I've heard of skinless wieners, but...
Well, whaddya have? Scales? An exoskeleton, perhaps. I hope you're not
one of those boogary, blob-type creatures which slithers around sliming up
the whole world for sport. The last time I saw a movie like that, I didn't
pick my nose for a whole week.
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Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:31:40 GMT
rf scribed:
'kay, but I doubt that dorayme will be so inclined to pose for you. What
should I use, dish-liquid, detergent, or grandma's famous big-bar lye soap?
I think I'll go with grandma's 'cause she is a repeat-offender.
rf scribed:
Jpegs will be required. Might even pop over the river and watch
'kay, but I doubt that dorayme will be so inclined to pose for you. What
should I use, dish-liquid, detergent, or grandma's famous big-bar lye soap?
I think I'll go with grandma's 'cause she is a repeat-offender.
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Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:20:21 GMT
Travis Newbury scribed:
Yeah, and I had a picture of whoever-it-is (jpeg), -probably a promo from a
movie or something, where she looked even better. Unfortunately, the crash
got it.
No, kids grow up to be mundane. Average is anything but mundane. Average
is wonderful, but it's a gift, not something one can usually attain by
merit or self-ability.
How come all the ascii smiley-faces I see are sideways?
Travis Newbury scribed:
Yeah, and I had a picture of whoever-it-is (jpeg), -probably a promo from a
movie or something, where she looked even better. Unfortunately, the crash
got it.
No, kids grow up to be mundane. Average is anything but mundane. Average
is wonderful, but it's a gift, not something one can usually attain by
merit or self-ability.
How come all the ascii smiley-faces I see are sideways?
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rf
Neredbojias said:
I once left to soak overnight my industrial strength leather gardening
gloves, in dishwasher (you know, the machine type, not the wife type)
powder. Next morning the gloves had totally disappeared into a slimy sludge
at the bottom of the sink.
Should be suitable
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Ed Mullen
Neredbojias said:
It's probably here:
http://images.google.com/images?q=jeri ryan&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search
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Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!
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William Gill
It is your lack of knowledge about Flash development and Actionscript
match yours or your definition of a good developer, they are however
better than some "professionals" I have worked "with" mostly because
they took the "flash for flash sake" approach you appropriately disdain.
I must concede it is possible that "optimization" with the current state
of the technology may render my opinions as dated. I am an old dog and
thus cling to old tricks. I started creating the network long before I
became a user, so my personal base line is such that just because you
can build a faster processor, and a faster pipe, does not excuse
inefficient code or unnecessary volume (bloat). I am amazed at how
often a site will generate each page with each request (just because
they can), even though the request is fairly standard, easily
anticipated, and could thus be achieved via a static page (possibly
generated by a daily batch to accommodate updates).
viewer's browser window to "maintain the proper aspect ratio." Never
mind the slap in the face to welcome a new visitor, or the fact that
javascript disabled browsers were forced to view his "art"
inappropriately. Do you suppose this experience may be tainting my
opinions?
would suggest otherwise? If blanket rules, or any rules for that matter
could be condensed into some kind of formulaic approach, there would be
no need for people like us (I'm sure the people in Redmond would have
packaged it by now if that were possible). Sometimes even "good" rules
need to be broken. That's why I think of them as suggestions, or
starting points, not inflexible constraints.
I admit my flash/actionscript skills are limited. I am sure they don't
match yours or your definition of a good developer, they are however
better than some "professionals" I have worked "with" mostly because
they took the "flash for flash sake" approach you appropriately disdain.
I must concede it is possible that "optimization" with the current state
of the technology may render my opinions as dated. I am an old dog and
thus cling to old tricks. I started creating the network long before I
became a user, so my personal base line is such that just because you
can build a faster processor, and a faster pipe, does not excuse
inefficient code or unnecessary volume (bloat). I am amazed at how
often a site will generate each page with each request (just because
they can), even though the request is fairly standard, easily
anticipated, and could thus be achieved via a static page (possibly
generated by a daily batch to accommodate updates).
I once worked with one of those "artists" who insisted on resizing the
viewer's browser window to "maintain the proper aspect ratio." Never
mind the slap in the face to welcome a new visitor, or the fact that
javascript disabled browsers were forced to view his "art"
inappropriately. Do you suppose this experience may be tainting my
opinions?
I wonder how you and I can be in so much agreement and yet this thread
would suggest otherwise? If blanket rules, or any rules for that matter
could be condensed into some kind of formulaic approach, there would be
no need for people like us (I'm sure the people in Redmond would have
packaged it by now if that were possible). Sometimes even "good" rules
need to be broken. That's why I think of them as suggestions, or
starting points, not inflexible constraints.
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Travis Newbury
I do not believe in Flash for Flash sake. And from those that I have
seen labeled as "professionals" I do agree, if you are looking at
bandwidth, accessibility, etc... then you are better than most.you are
probably better
Na, you sound like you have a brain, and as you learn it seems your
opinions change.
We don't disagree, not really.
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Travis Newbury
I think she look hotter as a borg. I remember she divorced her hubby
because he was into swinging and took her to swing clubs to watch her
F**k other men.
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dorayme
"rf said:Jpegs will be required. Might even pop over the river and watch
Just don't throw the empty tinnies in, there might be a few, the
show will not be short, I am likely to show some resistance...
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dorayme
Neredbojias said:
I have been very restrained in language, perhaps you are judging
by one rude word I could not resist in your personal website blog
(which I distractedly did not pay attention to, vaguely thinking
it was a test and you would vet it all). But, you f#¶&^!!
b%3@!!*, you let me hang out to dry in public and now everyone
knows my low class.
Apparently some very famous and good public figures are truly
foul mouthed in private.
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El Kabong
Give 'em heck, do!dorayme said:
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Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:22:23
GMT rf scribed:
Ah, electric dishwasher powder. Bet she'll get a charge outta that! (And
as a safety measure, I'll make sure she don't eat no gloves for 24 hours.)
GMT rf scribed:
I once left to soak overnight my industrial strength leather gardening
gloves, in dishwasher (you know, the machine type, not the wife type)
powder. Next morning the gloves had totally disappeared into a slimy
sludge at the bottom of the sink.
Should be suitable
Ah, electric dishwasher powder. Bet she'll get a charge outta that! (And
as a safety measure, I'll make sure she don't eat no gloves for 24 hours.)
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Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:23:33 GMT
dorayme scribed:
I suppose the definitive example is "Tricky Dick". His prodigal tapes
really opened the public eye to "high class invective". Nonetheless,
cussin' is an art-form, and when used adeptly, can really invigorate an
otherwise boring conversation. Often, a good way to introduced yourself to
a fellow co-worker is by starting a spontaneous verbal exchange with
something like "Hey, dickhead..." You're sure to get his or her undivided
attention in a minimum of time.
Btw, just to leave no doubt about the main subject extant, Flash is good
when it is done right and used where it is appropriate to do so.
dorayme scribed:
I suppose the definitive example is "Tricky Dick". His prodigal tapes
really opened the public eye to "high class invective". Nonetheless,
cussin' is an art-form, and when used adeptly, can really invigorate an
otherwise boring conversation. Often, a good way to introduced yourself to
a fellow co-worker is by starting a spontaneous verbal exchange with
something like "Hey, dickhead..." You're sure to get his or her undivided
attention in a minimum of time.
Btw, just to leave no doubt about the main subject extant, Flash is good
when it is done right and used where it is appropriate to do so.
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Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:26:43 GMT
El Kabong scribed:
To be semantically correct, you probably should have said "doh".
El Kabong scribed:
To be semantically correct, you probably should have said "doh".
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Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:15:33
GMT Ed Mullen scribed:
Yup, yep, and what a yapper. It is, and I just realized for the 1st time
she's the same girl who's in "Shark". Don't really watch TV much (-like
0.0001 percent), but I'm a James Woods fan. Thought he was super in
"Salvador".
GMT Ed Mullen scribed:
Yup, yep, and what a yapper. It is, and I just realized for the 1st time
she's the same girl who's in "Shark". Don't really watch TV much (-like
0.0001 percent), but I'm a James Woods fan. Thought he was super in
"Salvador".
E
El Kabong
Neredbojias said:
Yes, but I'm a conservationist. I might need that h later.
El