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be.krul
why is this group being spammed?
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Chris Rebert
why is this group being spammed?
Because that's what happens in unmoderated USENET newsgroups.
Cheers,
Chris
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Stephen Hansen
why is this group being spammed?
Because while God created the Internet, the Devil twisted it by creating
spammers.
What do you expect? Adam just didn't pay enough attention when Eve made
him a waldorf salad; we descendants of Seth have gone and tried to
devour not only the knowledge of good and evil but all knowledge of all
things, most notably breasts.
Of course there'd be a dire consequence for our hubris.
--
Stephen Hansen
... Also: Ixokai
... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io
... Blog: http://meh.ixokai.io/
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Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet
* be.krul, on 18.07.2010 07:01:
It depends a little on what you're asking, e.g. technical versus motivation.
But I'll answer about something you probably didn't mean to ask, namely what
human trait enables and almost forces that kind of behavior.
And I believe it is the same trait that let hypnotists do funny TV-shows with
quite normal folks behaving in ridiculous ways, the same trait that causes wars,
the same trait that causes religion, the same trait that holds back science so
that "paradigm shifts" only occur when new generations take over, a trait that
/makes/ your feet start moving to the rhythm when you hear the right kind of
music, and so on. Namely the instinctual drive to fit in in a social group by
sharing that group's behavior and values. This instinct is possibly stronger
than the sex drive, e.g., wars are seldom fought over sex ("surrender, and give
us sex!", no, that's not it, it's "surrender, and become part of us!").
Consider, there would be almost no spam if spamming didn't pay.
And the only way that spam can pay is if there are at least some suckers with
good money.
And the only way that there can be a reasonable number of suckers of such
monumental stupidity, who also have good money, is, as I see it, if intelligence
and good sense is not a requirement for succeeding in society.
But what is required, then, for succeeding in society?
Some of it is no doubt blind chance, but I believe that the main requirement is
simply one of fitting in, conformance. Thus, if my hypothesis is right, almost
any idiot can rise to any level of responsibility and social standing simply by
fitting in, conforming. This idiot then has good money and might be one of the
suckers responding to spam.
Cheers,
- Alf
why is this group being spammed?
It depends a little on what you're asking, e.g. technical versus motivation.
But I'll answer about something you probably didn't mean to ask, namely what
human trait enables and almost forces that kind of behavior.
And I believe it is the same trait that let hypnotists do funny TV-shows with
quite normal folks behaving in ridiculous ways, the same trait that causes wars,
the same trait that causes religion, the same trait that holds back science so
that "paradigm shifts" only occur when new generations take over, a trait that
/makes/ your feet start moving to the rhythm when you hear the right kind of
music, and so on. Namely the instinctual drive to fit in in a social group by
sharing that group's behavior and values. This instinct is possibly stronger
than the sex drive, e.g., wars are seldom fought over sex ("surrender, and give
us sex!", no, that's not it, it's "surrender, and become part of us!").
Consider, there would be almost no spam if spamming didn't pay.
And the only way that spam can pay is if there are at least some suckers with
good money.
And the only way that there can be a reasonable number of suckers of such
monumental stupidity, who also have good money, is, as I see it, if intelligence
and good sense is not a requirement for succeeding in society.
But what is required, then, for succeeding in society?
Some of it is no doubt blind chance, but I believe that the main requirement is
simply one of fitting in, conformance. Thus, if my hypothesis is right, almost
any idiot can rise to any level of responsibility and social standing simply by
fitting in, conforming. This idiot then has good money and might be one of the
suckers responding to spam.
Cheers,
- Alf
G
geremy condra
* be.krul, on 18.07.2010 07:01:
It depends a little on what you're asking, e.g. technical versus motivation.
But I'll answer about something you probably didn't mean to ask, namely what
human trait enables and almost forces that kind of behavior.
And I believe it is the same trait that let hypnotists do funny TV-shows
with quite normal folks behaving in ridiculous ways, the same trait that
causes wars, the same trait that causes religion, the same trait that holds
back science so that "paradigm shifts" only occur when new generations take
over, a trait that /makes/ your feet start moving to the rhythm when you
hear the right kind of music, and so on. Namely the instinctual drive to fit
in in a social group by sharing that group's behavior and values. This
instinct is possibly stronger than the sex drive, e.g., wars are seldom
fought over sex ("surrender, and give us sex!", no, that's not it, it's
"surrender, and become part of us!").
Helen of Troy begs to differ.
Geremy Condra
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Johannes Kleese
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet
Helen of Troy begs to differ.
Britney Spears, too.
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Chris Rebert
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sturlamolden
why is this group being spammed?
There used to be bots that issued cancel messages against spam, but I
don't think they are actively maintained anymore.
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Edward A. Falk
why is this group being spammed?
They're *all* being spammed. Why? Because they can, and because Google
doesn't care.
E
Edward A. Falk
Consider, there would be almost no spam if spamming didn't pay.
Or if ISPs refused to tolerate it from their customers.
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Mark Lawrence
They're *all* being spammed. Why? Because they can, and because Google
doesn't care.
I see little or nothing because I read through gmane.comp.python.general.
Kindest regards.
Mark Lawrence.
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John Bokma
be.krul said:why is this group being spammed?
Do you report those spammers?
While Google is extremely lazy with dealing with spammers, if sufficient
people report them action might be taken. Also make sure to report those
spammers with their ISP; posts via GG contain the posting IP address.
Even trolls can be hurt, if enough people report them:
http://www.xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/t2/harassment.html
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Nobody
There used to be bots that issued cancel messages against spam, but I
don't think they are actively maintained anymore.
Mostly because cancel messages are invariably ignored nowadays.
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be.krul
Because while God created the Internet, the Devil twisted it by creating
spammers.
What do you expect? Adam just didn't pay enough attention when Eve made
him a waldorf salad; we descendants of Seth have gone and tried to
devour not only the knowledge of good and evil but all knowledge of all
things, most notably breasts.
Of course there'd be a dire consequence for our hubris.
--
Stephen Hansen
... Also: Ixokai
... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io
... Blog:http://meh.ixokai.io/
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Interesting, I thought Al Gore creted Internet!?
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be.krul
Because that's what happens in unmoderated USENET newsgroups.
Cheers,
Chris
I thought this group can be moderated, but turns out this is USENET
Group..
B
be.krul
What kind of answer are you looking for? Are you asking about the
motives of spammers, or the technical explanation for how the spam
arrives, or something else?
--
\ “The best ad-libs are rehearsed.” —Graham Kennedy |
`\ |
_o__) |
Ben Finney
Why not moderate this group?
B
be.krul
* be.krul, on 18.07.2010 07:01:
It depends a little on what you're asking, e.g. technical versus motivation.
But I'll answer about something you probably didn't mean to ask, namely what
human trait enables and almost forces that kind of behavior.
And I believe it is the same trait that let hypnotists do funny TV-shows with
quite normal folks behaving in ridiculous ways, the same trait that causes wars,
the same trait that causes religion, the same trait that holds back science so
that "paradigm shifts" only occur when new generations take over, a trait that
/makes/ your feet start moving to the rhythm when you hear the right kind of
music, and so on. Namely the instinctual drive to fit in in a social group by
sharing that group's behavior and values. This instinct is possibly stronger
than the sex drive, e.g., wars are seldom fought over sex ("surrender, and give
us sex!", no, that's not it, it's "surrender, and become part of us!").
Consider, there would be almost no spam if spamming didn't pay.
And the only way that spam can pay is if there are at least some suckers with
good money.
And the only way that there can be a reasonable number of suckers of such
monumental stupidity, who also have good money, is, as I see it, if intelligence
and good sense is not a requirement for succeeding in society.
But what is required, then, for succeeding in society?
Some of it is no doubt blind chance, but I believe that the main requirement is
simply one of fitting in, conformance. Thus, if my hypothesis is right, almost
any idiot can rise to any level of responsibility and social standing simply by
fitting in, conforming. This idiot then has good money and might be one of the
suckers responding to spam.
Cheers,
- Alf
Alf - You re my next hero!
Who could answer so eloquently.
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be.krul
why is this group being spammed?
What I was asking is why not moderate the group. this is the only
Python group I could find..
But maybe owner of this group do no care in that case we *all* get
spammed!
T
Thomas Jollans
I thought this group can be moderated, but turns out this is USENET
Group..
What did you think it was?
B
be.krul
What did you think it was?
Because i joined from Goggle Groups and not the Usenet Client.
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