4.01 strict or XHTML 1.0 ?

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Markus Wiedemeier

I'm pretty much undecided of whether or not I should implement HTML
4.01 strict or XHTML 1.0 for my pages.

Any advice and can you point me to some good source of where to find
on-line manuals and easy explanations?
 
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Michael Wilcox

Markus Wiedemeier said:
I'm pretty much undecided of whether or not I should implement HTML
4.01 strict or XHTML 1.0 for my pages.

If you write your pages in XHTML you must send them as application/xhtml+xml
.. If you cannot change how they are sent, it's best to write them in HTML
4.01 strict with a proper doctype.
 
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Eric Gutz

Any advice and can you point me to some good source of where to find
on-line manuals and easy explanations?

Since the information on your homepage gives rise to the suspicion, you
might speak german, here's my favourite site for HTML/XHTML resources

http://selfhtml.teamone.de/

It's german only, but it's really plenty and good information.

Regards

Eric
 
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John McGaw

Markus Wiedemeier said:
I'm pretty much undecided of whether or not I should implement HTML
4.01 strict or XHTML 1.0 for my pages.

Any advice and can you point me to some good source of where to find
on-line manuals and easy explanations?



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I recently decided to upgrade my site from 4.01 Transitional to 4.01 Strict.
It was already fully CSS. This proved to be a little difficult but not
horribly so. The benefit was that changing the whole 110+ files to XHTML 1.0
Strict was dead simple -- HTML Tidy was able to do almost all of the dirty
work and it took only hours. Then I discovered that moving from XTHML 1.0 to
1.1 was even easier. I simply changed the DTDs globally and re-verified --
not one more change was needed. I'm not claiming that every site will be so
easy to convert but once you make the difficult move to 4.01 Strict the next
step(s) should be relatively easier.

Now if I only had some clue about making the site pretty too. Guess I should
have paid attention in those art classes in school instead of sleeping in
the back row...
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Sam Hughes

I'm pretty much undecided of whether or not I should implement HTML
4.01 strict or XHTML 1.0 for my pages.

Any advice and can you point me to some good source of where to find
on-line manuals and easy explanations?

I see no reason to use XHTML 1.0 as opposed to HTML 4.01. What are your
reasons for considering both?

If you implement HTML 4.01 Strict, you generally will not need to worry
about browsers having trouble rendering your documents, unless you go crazy
with CSS.
 
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Barry Pearson

Markus said:
I'm pretty much undecided of whether or not I should implement HTML
4.01 strict or XHTML 1.0 for my pages.

Any advice and can you point me to some good source of where to find
on-line manuals and easy explanations?

4.01 Strict is good. If you achieve that your pages will probably be OK for
many years/decades. You will be able to obtain free user-friendly (!) tools to
help you move forward if you ever need to. You will presumably have reasonably
clean mark-up and CSS (although that is not guaranteed!) People will respect
your pages enough to offer help instead of telling you to sort out your grot.
You will be able to sleep easy.

No one has been able to tell me what extra advantage I could get from moving
from there to 1.0. There appears to be not one extra user that I would get. It
would not extend the life of any page by 1 week, or even 1 day. It would not
save me a minute per week in development time. It would apparently not benefit
a single person by as much as a penny/cent.

I suspect that, unless you have specific needs to incorporate extra XML
namespaces into your documents, HTML 4.01 is the pinnacle for the next decade.
(Depressing, isn't it?)
 
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David Dorward

Markus said:
I'm pretty much undecided of whether or not I should implement HTML
4.01 strict or XHTML 1.0 for my pages.

The use HTML 4.01. XHTML comes with a lot of baggage, so it worth avoiding
unless you know you need it.
 
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DU

Markus said:
I'm pretty much undecided of whether or not I should implement HTML
4.01 strict or XHTML 1.0 for my pages.

Any advice and can you point me to some good source of where to find
on-line manuals and easy explanations?



--
Markus Wiedemeier
[email protected]_pitcasa.com
http://www.pitcasa.com/casa
http://www.pitcasa.com/mw


WaSP Asks the W3C
Which should we use, HTML or XHTML, and why?
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/askw3c/oct2003.html

Apparently, some applications do not support XHTML.

Whatever you choose, I think you should opt for a strict definition for
many reasons, 2 of them being
- increased parsing speed due to triggering standards compliant
rendering mode in recent browser versions like MSIE 6, Mozilla/NS 7.x
and Opera 7
- MSIE 6 for windows will implement the CSS1 box model correctly

DU
 
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Barry Pearson

DU wrote:
[snip]
WaSP Asks the W3C
Which should we use, HTML or XHTML, and why?
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/askw3c/oct2003.html
[snip]

The problem with their list of reasons for using XHTML instead of HTML is that
you can get most of the advantages just by writing HTML in the the XHTML way,
such as lower-case tags, quoted attribute values, etc. And when it becomes
necessary to move your documents forward, it will probably be just as easy to
do so from 4.01 Strict.

Frankly, their reasons look like "marketing desperation" rather than
engineering reasons!
 
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Markus Wiedemeier

Since the information on your homepage gives rise to the suspicion, you
might speak german, here's my favourite site for HTML/XHTML resources

http://selfhtml.teamone.de/

It's german only, but it's really plenty and good information.


yes I do speak german too - and the site looks promising - thks!
 

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