Any 'rough & ready' suggestions for web design?

[John Latter]

Hi,

After abandoning AOLPress & installing HTML-Kit I'm now attempting to
approach web page design in a more sensible manner.

Obviously the learning curve is very steep (especially) for me but
while I'm reading up on stuff I would also like create some pages.

I'm somewhat overwhelmed on the info I've read concerning trying to
make pages compatible with different browsers. So I was wondering if
anyone had any suggestions for a 'rough & ready' approach in which I
could start by writing some non-javascript pages and know that they
would (probably) load ok.

I've been looking at other peoples stuff and I notice that quite a few
of them specify the page width to be anywere between 680 to 770 pixels
- is this a good approach to take?

In my ignorance I thought that pages automatically resized and I also
noticed that some people also specify table width in pixels - i
thuoght setting it to what ever percentage was chosen would cause it
to appear that way.

I got a lot of stuff to learn but I would appreciate any pointers -
there are lots of online tutorials but its sometimes difficult to
pinpoint the exact piece of info that I want.

Hope you can help!

Jorolat

 

[andy johnson]

Hi,

After abandoning AOLPress & installing HTML-Kit I'm now attempting to
approach web page design in a more sensible manner.

I got a lot of stuff to learn but I would appreciate any pointers -
there are lots of online tutorials but its sometimes difficult to
pinpoint the exact piece of info that I want.

Hope you can help!

Jorolat

If you do a Google for "css web page templates", you'll find 210,000
hits for them. Many look free. Pick one that fits your content and
gives you the look and feel you want. Look at other web sites in your
industry/category to see what they did, That will give you an idea
what content and page styles people are used to seeing. You don't want
to copy any of these, but get an idea of what is out there. The whole
idea of good web design and a fresh or hip look is to drive visitors
to your site. Godaddy also has a rudimentary one for your use if you
have godaddy for a host. You might want to consider getting rid of
anything MSN or AOL. Both are poor excuses for service providers.

-
Andy

"There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
- (Calvin and Hobbes)

 

[PeterMcC]

John Latter wrote:

I've been looking at other peoples stuff and I notice that quite a few
of them specify the page width to be anywere between 680 to 770 pixels
- is this a good approach to take?

In my ignorance I thought that pages automatically resized and I also
noticed that some people also specify table width in pixels - i
thuoght setting it to what ever percentage was chosen would cause it
to appear that way.

Useful stuff at:
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AnySizeDesign

 

[John Latter]

If you do a Google for "css web page templates", you'll find 210,000
hits for them. Many look free. Pick one that fits your content and
gives you the look and feel you want. Look at other web sites in your
industry/category to see what they did, That will give you an idea
what content and page styles people are used to seeing. You don't want
to copy any of these, but get an idea of what is out there. The whole
idea of good web design and a fresh or hip look is to drive visitors
to your site. Godaddy also has a rudimentary one for your use if you
have godaddy for a host. You might want to consider getting rid of
anything MSN or AOL. Both are poor excuses for service providers.

-
Andy

"There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
- (Calvin and Hobbes)

Thanks Andy - I hadn't thought of looking for css templates, that's a
good idea!! so are the others of course

I hadn't heard of css 'til a couple of days ago and learning about
that along with everything else was one of the reasons
I wondered if there was a 'rough & ready' solution

Jorolat

 

[John Latter]

John Latter wrote:


Useful stuff at:
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AnySizeDesign

Thanks for the link Peter, it does look interesting stuff - I've read
the first page and am now going back for more!

Jorolat

 

[Davmagic com]

From: (e-mail address removed) (John Latter)
I'm somewhat overwhelmed on the info
I've read concerning trying to make pages
compatible with different browsers. So I
was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions for a 'rough & ready' approach
in which I could start by writing some
non-javascript pages and know that they
would (probably) load ok.

Look Here: http://davmagic.com/PAGES22.html

Avoid HTML Programs... do it by Hand Coding..........>

Web Design-Magic-Painting-Junking-Games
INFO 2000 For You
http://www.davmagic.com
See how your webpages look on a MSN-TV Browser:
Download it here: http://developer.msntv.com/Tools/msntvvwr.asp

 

[John Latter]

Look Here: http://davmagic.com/PAGES22.html

Avoid HTML Programs... do it by Hand Coding..........>

Web Design-Magic-Painting-Junking-Games
INFO 2000 For You
http://www.davmagic.com
See how your webpages look on a MSN-TV Browser:
Download it here: http://developer.msntv.com/Tools/msntvvwr.asp

A very interesting site, I've just spent 10 minutes browsing it
before remembering to come back and say thanks!

Jorolat

 

[Greg Schmidt]

Look Here: http://davmagic.com/PAGES22.html

Is it just me, or does anyone else find these pages garish and full of
outdated or just plain bad information? Like they were written in 1996
and not updated since.

 

[Hywel Jenkins]

Is it just me, or does anyone else find these pages garish and full of
outdated or just plain bad information? Like they were written in 1996
and not updated since.

No, they're bloody awful. Then again, they come from a WebTV user ...

 

[rf]

Is it just me, or does anyone else find these pages garish and full of
outdated or just plain bad information? Like they were written in 1996
and not updated since.

From somewhere in the site:

<quote>
To get Internet Access you can buy a PC (Computer) and sign up for access
thru an ISP (Internet Service Provider)... some are Free such as...
</quote>

Duh...

I "can" puy a PC? What if I buy a lawnmower. Can I still get internet
access?

No Greg, it's not just you

Cheers
Richard.

 

[kchayka]

No Greg, it's not just you

I'm still trying to figure out where my ISP hides their "advanced
editor" so I can build cool home pages like this, too.

 

[Mark Parnell]

Then again, they come from a WebTV user ...

Has anyone heard from the other WebTV user lately?