brief description of asp.net 2.0 controls

S

Steve

Is there a page on the web which simply lists the controls available in
asp.net 2.0 with a brief description of each?

I just want this as a reference, so that I am aware of all the controls
available to me.

I haven't managed to find anything, can somebody help?
 
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clintonG

Just be aware that those QuickStarts are already outdated and include code
that may no longer be supported as the 2.0 beta continues to evolve. Keeping
up with the changes has been very frustrating as Microsoft has done a poor
job posting, maintaining, and coordinating release information.

In fact it is fair and correct to say there is no coordination which is
troublesome. When November 7th comes around there are going to be a lot of
pissed off business owners and managers that discover their developers are
wasting many days and weeks of their unbillable time trying to figure out
what is current and what is not.


<%= Clinton Gallagher
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NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
 
M

Martin Honnen

clintonG said:
Just be aware that those QuickStarts are already outdated and include code
that may no longer be supported as the 2.0 beta continues to evolve. Keeping
up with the changes has been very frustrating as Microsoft has done a poor
job posting, maintaining, and coordinating release information.

Some information about changes between 2.0 beta 2 and the RTM is here:
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/beta2/beta2rtmchanges/default.aspx>
 
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Juan T. Llibre

Hi, Clinton.

The ASP.NET FAQ points to the locations of the
1.x Quickstarts and, also, to the 2.0 QuickStarts.

http://asp.net.do/faq/

re:
When November 7th comes around there are going to be a lot of pissed off business owners
and managers that discover their developers are wasting many days and weeks of their
unbillable time trying to figure out what is current and what is not.

Not at all.

When the official release is made, there will be a final version
of the 2.0 QuickStart and it will be hosted by several sites,
besides being hosted by the www.asp.net official site.

The ASP.NET FAQ will keep you informed as soon as that happens.
Bookmark it. The ASP.NET FAQ will always have the latest information.

re:
QuickStarts are already outdated and include code that may no longer be supported as the
2.0 beta continues to evolve.

Would you point out any/some of them ?

There were a few changes going from Beta 1 to Beta 2 but,
essentially, Beta 2 is "feature complete" and unless something
breaks radically during the Beta period ( remember we are
only abiout 2 months away from the release ) there's *not*
going to be any changes to the 2.0 classes or their members.



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
==========================
 
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clintonG

Yea thanks Juan. I've got that stuff already but note my point is that there
has been no coordination and practically all of the resources contain
outdated content. Even the 'official' resources.

BTW -- I've meant to ask you if you have considered using a wiki [1],[2]
that supports authentication for the FAQ you are building? Any other ASP.NET
choices you may know of? IMO a wiki may prove to be the right way to do the
right thing when building a FAQ ainna?

<%= Clinton Gallagher

[1]
http://www.high-beyond.com/perspective.aspx?action=view&page=perspective.Welcome
[2] http://www.flexwiki.com/default.aspx/FlexWiki/HomePagea.html
 
J

Juan T. Llibre

Clinton,

re:
I've seen that document but it too is woefully incomplete.

The complete list of Beta 2 --> RTM API changes is at :
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/C/E/ECE1E64C-824D-4905-AE1C-FD13DDC78BC8/Beta2RTMAPI.msi

What is missing from that document ?
Are you aware of any changes which are not included there ?



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
===========================

clintonG said:
Thank you Martin. I've seen that document but it too is woefully incomplete. Now I know
what they mean by 'partial class' ;-)

<%= Clinton Gallagher
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NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
 
J

Juan T. Llibre

re:
has been no coordination and practically all of the resources contain outdated content.
Even the 'official' resources.

Clinton, this *is* a Beta.

I find that the amount of information and documentation
we have be getting is mind-boggling for Beta releases.

I don't think I can name *any* Beta* which has provided more
information that this .Net Framework/ASP.NET/VS.NET Beta.

Can you ?

re:
I've meant to ask you if you have considered using a wiki

A wiki is not very convenient for such a small project.

This FAQ is meant to be a guidance tool for beginners,
and is not meant to become a complete repository of KBs/FAQs.

Maybe for a full-blown FAQ a wiki might be convenient,
but I think I'm tending towards something like aspfaqs.com.

I've got quite a large number of questions and answers which
have been culled from many sources, and putting them in
a FAQ-searchable format would be fantastic.

So little time...so many things which can be done. :)



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
===========================

clintonG said:
Yea thanks Juan. I've got that stuff already but note my point is that there has been no
coordination and practically all of the resources contain outdated content. Even the
'official' resources.

BTW -- I've meant to ask you if you have considered using a wiki [1],[2] that supports
authentication for the FAQ you are building? Any other ASP.NET choices you may know of?
IMO a wiki may prove to be the right way to do the right thing when building a FAQ
ainna?

<%= Clinton Gallagher

[1] http://www.high-beyond.com/perspective.aspx?action=view&page=perspective.Welcome
[2] http://www.flexwiki.com/default.aspx/FlexWiki/HomePagea.html

Juan T. Llibre said:
Hi, Clinton.

The ASP.NET FAQ points to the locations of the
1.x Quickstarts and, also, to the 2.0 QuickStarts.

http://asp.net.do/faq/

re:

Not at all.

When the official release is made, there will be a final version
of the 2.0 QuickStart and it will be hosted by several sites,
besides being hosted by the www.asp.net official site.

The ASP.NET FAQ will keep you informed as soon as that happens.
Bookmark it. The ASP.NET FAQ will always have the latest information.

re:

Would you point out any/some of them ?

There were a few changes going from Beta 1 to Beta 2 but,
essentially, Beta 2 is "feature complete" and unless something
breaks radically during the Beta period ( remember we are
only abiout 2 months away from the release ) there's *not*
going to be any changes to the 2.0 classes or their members.



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
==========================
 
C

clintonG

Just went through the MSDN Product Feedback Center. There's been over 10,000
bugs and suggestions. Is that a sufficient number of issues left unresolved
that may or may not have been or will be blogged somewhere? The whole point
is discovering information with regard to product releases is more a matter
of luck and timing than it is a matter of coordinated management.

For example, I've spent several days trying to search through that resource
and the web trying to determine why controls disappear from the viewstate
when using MasterPages. Still no solution.

Knowledge Management comes to mind as a means to at least try to make it
easier, more efficient and less expensive to remain informed about these
issues. One product solution I've found very impressive is from Endeca who
calls their technology 'Guided Navigation.'

Do you remember infoSeek? They sent me a T-Shirt for suggesing they develop
search results which included an interface to create a second level of
search applied against the results returned from each preceding search. The
output of the response I proposed should use a drill-down navigation that
was built from each returned result set. Several years later Endeca made it
happen. IMO Guided Navigation would work very well for coordinating and
managing the information for a product release such as ASP.NET 2.0. Check
out Endeca's Product Flash Demos [2]

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://endeca.com/
[2] http://endeca.com/demos/index.html



Juan T. Llibre said:
Clinton,

re:
I've seen that document but it too is woefully incomplete.

The complete list of Beta 2 --> RTM API changes is at :
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/C/E/ECE1E64C-824D-4905-AE1C-FD13DDC78BC8/Beta2RTMAPI.msi

What is missing from that document ?
Are you aware of any changes which are not included there ?



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
===========================
 
C

clintonG

Thanks, that is an interesting set of documents.

<%= Clinton Gallagher

Juan T. Llibre said:
Clinton,

re:
I've seen that document but it too is woefully incomplete.

The complete list of Beta 2 --> RTM API changes is at :
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/C/E/ECE1E64C-824D-4905-AE1C-FD13DDC78BC8/Beta2RTMAPI.msi

What is missing from that document ?
Are you aware of any changes which are not included there ?



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
===========================
 
J

Juan T. Llibre

re:
Just went through the MSDN Product Feedback Center. There's been over 10,000 bugs and
suggestions. Is that a sufficient number of issues left unresolved

There must be a misunderstanding on your part.

As of today, there's been a total of 17,586 bugs filed.

Of those, there 1435 bugs active. The rest have been resolved.

This week, 383 bugs were filed and 533 bugs were closed,
so the gap is closing ... ;-)

re:
I've spent several days trying to search through that resource and the web trying to
determine why controls disappear from the viewstate when using MasterPages. Still no
solution.

I searched for the following words, and came up with 5 viewstate bugs :

master pages viewstate

None of the bugs were filed by you.
What you should have done is file a bug report!

They're pretty good about paying attention to filed bug reports,
but if you don't input anything to them, they can't answer your question.

File a bug report! You'll get a solution.



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
==========================

clintonG said:
Just went through the MSDN Product Feedback Center. There's been over 10,000 bugs and
suggestions. Is that a sufficient number of issues left unresolved that may or may not
have been or will be blogged somewhere? The whole point is discovering information with
regard to product releases is more a matter of luck and timing than it is a matter of
coordinated management.

For example, I've spent several days trying to search through that resource and the web
trying to determine why controls disappear from the viewstate when using MasterPages.
Still no solution.

Knowledge Management comes to mind as a means to at least try to make it easier, more
efficient and less expensive to remain informed about these issues. One product solution
I've found very impressive is from Endeca who calls their technology 'Guided
Navigation.'

Do you remember infoSeek? They sent me a T-Shirt for suggesing they develop search
results which included an interface to create a second level of search applied against
the results returned from each preceding search. The output of the response I proposed
should use a drill-down navigation that was built from each returned result set. Several
years later Endeca made it happen. IMO Guided Navigation would work very well for
coordinating and managing the information for a product release such as ASP.NET 2.0.
Check out Endeca's Product Flash Demos [2]

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

[1] http://endeca.com/
[2] http://endeca.com/demos/index.html



Juan T. Llibre said:
Clinton,

re:

The complete list of Beta 2 --> RTM API changes is at :
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/C/E/ECE1E64C-824D-4905-AE1C-FD13DDC78BC8/Beta2RTMAPI.msi

What is missing from that document ?
Are you aware of any changes which are not included there ?



Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
===========================
 

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