Bug Parade Bug 4953793

[Michel Joly de Lotbiniere]

Can anyone suggest how to solve the problem described in the comments
to that bug?

Briefly, the present situation is that I cannot install any version of
the 1.4.2 J2SE SDK on Windows 2000 SP4 (it appeared to work on SP3) so
that the Java plugin and java[w].exe work on a non-administrative
account: the applets don't even show on a WWW page, and the JVM launched
by java[w].exe remains a hidden program (merely present in the task
list). Eclipse 2.1.x is the only program to appear to work, perhaps
because it does not use java[w].exe to launch the JVM; Netbeans
runide.exe uses javaw.exe and so fails.

Maybe Sun requires a more recent DirectX version than 7.0 (which is the
included version on Windows 2K). Why would they make it depend on the
DirectX version, though? Seems like a sure way to break Java.

So, at the moment I'm still running J2SE 1.3.9, but I'd really like to
use 1.4.2; I wish I had something like VirtualPC, so I could easily test
hypotheses by making a separate install system, but I can't.

Any advice?
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[Andrew Thompson]

Can anyone suggest how to solve the problem described in the comments
to that bug?

Briefly, the present situation is that I cannot install any version of
the 1.4.2 J2SE SDK on Windows 2000 SP4 (it appeared to work on SP3)

Roll-back to SP3?

 

[Michel Joly de Lotbiniere]

Roll-back to SP3?

I don't want to lose most of the security fixes present in SP4. What I
may do is restore my system to the pre-SP4 state from tape, check if the
latest version J2SE 1.4.2 actually works in that configuration, and if
it does, just apply the security fixes currently available separately
from SP4. Ouf!

Or win the lottery and switch to a macintosh...

 

[Tim Tyler]

Can anyone suggest how to solve the problem described in the comments
to that bug?

What do you make of the Sun evaluation?:

Please retest the install using Java 1.4.2_02. We discovered a problem on
our webserver and fixed it. Please confirm your install is now
successful.

xxxxx@xxxxx 2003-11-19

I think the problem is that the user is installing into
"C:\Programs\Java\SDK\"
for both 1.4.2 and 1.4.2_01. My guess is that they installed 1.4.2 into
that directory, and either had a dos-prompt open and the cwd was that
directory or something else had it locked up. Then they tried to install
1.4.2_01 into the same directory. We will pop up that message because the
patcher will fail if it cannot patch the target directory. We should
either document that users should not install different jre/sdk releases
over previously installed j2se releases, or we should stop them ahead of
time when they are choosing the directory.

xxxxx@xxxxx 2003-11-25

 

[Michel]

What do you make of the Sun evaluation?:

See my Nov 29 comment on the bug page. I'm suspecting that I have some
kind of problem with incompatible Window system components (SP4,
DirectX, who knows?). I probably shouldn't tax Sun with making their
Windows Java releases so Windows version dependent until I know what's
really wrong.

If I find the time, I'll roll back my system partition to the pre-SP4 or
pre-SP3 days, and see if 1.4.x works.

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