Car-ac-systems

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

John Timney (MVP) a écrit :

I like top posted threads, its my preferred response method - and actually
also how I prefer to read a thread.

We just don't care what you prefer.

 

[knjaz]

Here you can find everything you need to know about car air
conditioning

http://car-ac-systems.blogspot.com/

 

[John Timney \(MVP\)]

How do I control one with C# then! Thats not on your site, clearly not
everything I need to know then. Waste of a site!

Regards

John Timney (MVP)
http://www.johntimney.com
http://www.johntimney.com/blog

 

[Lew]

How do I control one with C# then! Thats not on your site, clearly not
everything I need to know then. Waste of a site!

Please do not top post.

I'm starting to see "blogspot" as a synonym for "spam".

 

[John Timney \(MVP\)]

Thats all it is. It may have been a usefully intended resource once, but
they have no controls whatsoever. Its time someone closed it down.

Regards

John Timney (MVP)
http://www.johntimney.com
http://www.johntimney.com/blog

 

[Steve Holden]

Thats all it is. It may have been a usefully intended resource once, but
they have no controls whatsoever. Its time someone closed it down.

What is it about "please do not top-post" that you have difficulty
understanding? Or do "MVP"s feel that their time is so much more
valuable than anyone else's that they are free to ignore the norms?

Furthermore, please don't do the spammer the favor of repeating the URL
in yet another post. This only leaves further trails through the search
engines for innocents to trip over.

Are you new to the Internet, or just generally clueless?

regards
Steve (B.Sc., MBCS, CITP)

Regards

John Timney (MVP)
http://www.johntimney.com
http://www.johntimney.com/blog

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[Diez B. Roggisch]

What is it about "please do not top-post" that you have difficulty
understanding? Or do "MVP"s feel that their time is so much more
valuable than anyone else's that they are free to ignore the norms?

Furthermore, please don't do the spammer the favor of repeating the URL
in yet another post. This only leaves further trails through the search
engines for innocents to trip over.

Are you new to the Internet, or just generally clueless?

I took a look at his website - and so far, I have yet to encounter an MVP
that is not clueless. And who is not rubbing the fact that he got a pin
from MS into everybodies eyes.

But maybe he just wants to create visibility for his own linklist...

Diez

 

[Hunter Gratzner]

[top posting fixed]

Thats all it is. It may have been a usefully intended resource once, but
they have no controls whatsoever. Its time someone closed it down.

Blogspot, aka blogger getting closed down is very unlikely. It is a
Google company. And just as Google doesn't care about Usenet spam
originating via Google Groups, Google also doesn't care about spammers
on Blogspot/Blogger. All they care about is making AdSense money.

 

[Rory Becker]

Thats all it is. It may have been a usefully intended resource once,

but they have no controls whatsoever. Its time someone closed it
down.

Some would say the same thing about email or the internet at large.

It doesn't make it true.

Pick almost any community facility and you will find elements of the community
that would vandelise it or treat it like Sh*t.

Luckily you don't have to subscribe to all the blogs on blogspot. you can
pick just the ones that interest you.

 

[Zentrader]

<snip>
What is it about "please do not top-post" that you have difficulty
understanding? Or do "MVP"s feel that their time is so much more
valuable than anyone else's that they are free to ignore the norms?

Who made this the norm? In my travels through web-land, it appears to
be the opposite. Don't waste space repeating everything in every
post, and it wastes everyone's time by have to go over the same thing
again and again. Perhaps this thread has a purpose after all, anyway
it has been reported as spam.

 

[Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch]

<snip>
What is it about "please do not top-post" that you have difficulty
understanding? Or do "MVP"s feel that their time is so much more
valuable than anyone else's that they are free to ignore the norms?

Who made this the norm?

Common sense and (western) reading habits.

In my travels through web-land, it appears to be the opposite.

You must travel strange territories. ;-)

Don't waste space repeating everything in every post, and it wastes
everyone's time by have to go over the same thing again and again.

That's why you trim the quoted part to the minimum to understand what one
is answering. Top posting and full quoting wastes time for people who
want to see the context because context and answer are way apart and in the
wrong order so one has to scroll back and forth to keep track of the
discussion.

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

 

[J. Clifford Dyer]

Common sense and (western) reading habits.

More to the point, one or more of the mailing lists to which you are posting. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. If you don't know what the Romans do, you're probably cross-posting too broadly.

Cheers,
Cliff

 

[Steve Holden]

<snip>
What is it about "please do not top-post" that you have difficulty
understanding? Or do "MVP"s feel that their time is so much more
valuable than anyone else's that they are free to ignore the norms?

[Actually I wrote the bit above [to a third party], but apparently
zentrader doesn't feel the need to conform with the norm about quoting
other people's messages].

Who made this the norm? In my travels through web-land, it appears to
be the opposite. Don't waste space repeating everything in every
post, and it wastes everyone's time by have to go over the same thing
again and again. Perhaps this thread has a purpose after all, anyway
it has been reported as spam.

I wasn't talking about "webland". I was talking about the
comp.lang.python newsgroup/python-list mailing list. And please don;t
complain that you don't have time to establish the norms for each group
you post to, since it's long been accepted netiquette that you should
*read* any group you intend to post to for a while, giving you time to
discover what the accepted norms *are* ... and on c.l.py the norm is
definitely "avoid top-posting".

regards
Steve
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[John Timney \(MVP\)]

Common sense and (western) reading habits.


You must travel strange territories. ;-)


That's why you trim the quoted part to the minimum to understand what one
is answering. Top posting and full quoting wastes time for people who
want to see the context because context and answer are way apart and in
the
wrong order so one has to scroll back and forth to keep track of the
discussion.

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

I like top posted threads, its my preferred response method - and actually
also how I prefer to read a thread. Normally, I and the thread followers
are familiar with a threads context - and don't need to read down to get the
context of a response. Not much of a hardship really and just as I give my
time freely in answering a thread - everyone else can chose freely to read
it or ignore.

I don't though have no issues with people who chose to bottom post, or
respond with the full thread if its relevent, or trim it. If the answer is
relevent, I'll gladly spend the time reading it from any direction.

Regards

John Timney (MVP)
http://www.johntimney.com
http://www.johntimney.com/blog

 

[Dave Hansen]

<snip>
What is it about "please do not top-post" that you have difficulty
understanding? Or do "MVP"s feel that their time is so much more
valuable than anyone else's that they are free to ignore the norms?

Who made this the norm?

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt

If you don't know what the IETF is, or what an RFC is, you should
educate yourself.
http://www.ietf.org/glossary.html#IETF is a good place to start.

In my travels through web-land, it appears to

Usenet is not "web-land". And it is not Google Groups, either. Look
up
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/welcome/part1/ for more info

be the opposite. Don't waste space repeating everything in every
post, and it wastes everyone's time by have to go over the same thing
again and again. Perhaps this thread has a purpose after all, anyway
it has been reported as spam.

You have much to learn.

Regards,

-=Dave

 

[J. Clifford Dyer]

I like top posted threads, its my preferred response method - and actually
also how I prefer to read a thread. Normally, I and the thread followers
are familiar with a threads context - and don't need to read down to get the
context of a response. Not much of a hardship really and just as I give my
time freely in answering a thread - everyone else can chose freely to read
it or ignore.

I don't though have no issues with people who chose to bottom post, or
respond with the full thread if its relevent, or trim it. If the answer is
relevent, I'll gladly spend the time reading it from any direction.

Regards

John Timney (MVP)

Thank you for your courtesy in bottom posting that comment, in spite of your personal preference. It makes the group easier to follow.

Personally, I have nothing against top-posted comments. What really gets my panties in a bunch, however, are threads in which some replies are top-posted and some bottom posted. Then, in order to get the full story you end up bouncing back and forth through the message and trying to remember how deeply nested the last post was.

Cheers, and welcome to c.l.py.

Cliff

 

[John J. Lee]

I like top posted threads, its my preferred response method - and actually

[...]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#English_language_usage


John

 

[nebulous99]

How do I control one with C# then! Thats not on your site, clearly not
everything I need to know then. Waste of a site!

C# is just as off topic in comp.lang.java.programmer as car air-
conditioning systems. The latter, however, have the redeeming
characteristic that they are not the demonic spawn of evil Microsoft.

 

[John Timney \(MVP\)]

ho ho......now thats quite funny!

Regards

John Timney (MVP)
http://www.johntimney.com
http://www.johntimney.com/blog

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=]

[text reordered from top post to standard newsgroup style]

> ho ho......now thats quite funny!

Before you start wondering too much try and make a search in
comp.lang.java.programmer for posts by nebulous99 ...

Arne