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[Jan Faerber]

Jan Faerber schrieb am 10.11.2004 16:25:

Post them to alt.html so everyone can enjoy them.

chlori

.... proudly presenting my hotmail addie

<[email protected]> - the link there
brought some new things to me:

1) the background-gif on the top is only a very small 'line' in fact
and comes like this: background-image: url(images/logo-background.gif);
=> ||||||||||||||||||||||

2) <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?> - this tag on the top
of your file won't show up with php ... even with a workaround like
<?php echo "<"; ?>?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
you will still have problems.

3) Again some brainwork about copyright -> is it right to copy your
file and publish it modified in a newsgroup? Should be OK.

And last but not least) Some practical training with css/html
and now with Gimp - my editor for grafic - during picking flowers.

So I put the flowers on my raw <table> suggestion
http://www.janfaerber.com/alt.html/chlori.html

Thank you!

 

[chlori]

Jan Faerber schrieb am 11.11.2004 13:23:

<[email protected]>

What's that?

1) the background-gif on the top is only a very small 'line' in fact
and comes like this: background-image: url(images/logo-background.gif);
=> ||||||||||||||||||||||

That's the idea. What are you trying to say?

3) Again some brainwork about copyright -> is it right to copy your
file and publish it modified in a newsgroup? Should be OK.

It's just there for the Link.

So I put the flowers on my raw <table> suggestion

I use CSS for layout, not tables.

chlori

 

[Jan Faerber]

Try this instead: <http://freespace.virgin.net/phil.ronan/scramble.html>

lol - seems to be more complicated than ROT-13.

 

[Philip Ronan]

lol - seems to be more complicated than ROT-13.

That was the idea

 

[Jan Faerber]

Jan Faerber schrieb am 11.11.2004 13:23:

What's that?

That is the ID of your posting with the pic
'Split image and position with CSS'
With my news-reader you can click on this ID
and the message opens in a own window.

That's the idea. What are you trying to say?

I am trying to say that no effort is in vain.
My css is not so good, so I tried something to do with html.
Then I found this gif: First I was surprised... What is this?
Just a line? What happened? Then I found out ... ah ...
that line is repeating and repeating and fills out the whole logo.
It will have to do something with your considerations about
reducing bandwidth: A small line is very small in file size.
You could even decrease bandwidth by using only a gif with a blue point
in a section but then it will be more easy to use a background-color.

It's just there for the Link.

What will your customer say?

I use CSS for layout, not tables.

But I am still unpleased with the accordion effect
when you reduce the width of your window!
It is simple with a <table width="xxxpx;">
I don't know how it can be done with css - you have to ask someone else.

 

[Jan Faerber]

That was the idea

IC - it was your own idea! It is on your page.
Just because you mention javascript and
Sybren Stuvel 'abused' imagination.com before:

They have a very nice javascript effect on
http://www.imagination.com/home.shtml
with the six pics in the center of the page
and this 'style' repeats on the whole site.




Jan

http://www.janfaerber.com

 

[chlori]

Jan Faerber schrieb am 11.11.2004 14:20:

My css is not so good,

I realised that by now!

Just a line? What happened? Then I found out ... ah ...
that line is repeating and repeating and fills out the whole logo.

That's default for background-image. And it saves
bandwidth compared to a line as background image.

It will have to do something with your considerations about
reducing bandwidth: A small line is very small in file size.

Exactly. And it repeats it no matter how wide the
canvas is.

You could even decrease bandwidth by using only a gif with a blue point
in a section but then it will be more easy to use a background-color.

I use 'background-color' for the blue part and
'background-image' for the white line (52 Bytes).

What will your customer say?

We'll see...

http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Tableless_layouts

But I am still unpleased with the accordion effect
when you reduce the width of your window!

I am. That's exactly what I want.

It is simple with a <table width="xxxpx;">

Again: I don't use tables for layout, I use CSS.

I don't know how it can be done with css - you have to ask someone else.

Well, I know it myself so I don't have to ask. But it's
not the effect I want, I want flexible design.

chlori

 

[Philip Ronan]

They have a very nice javascript effect on
http://www.imagination.com/home.shtml
with the six pics in the center of the page
and this 'style' repeats on the whole site.

Neat

I wonder how difficult it would be to do something like that in CSS?

 

[Jan Faerber]

Jan Faerber schrieb am 11.11.2004 14:20:

I realised that by now!

But it is improving a little week by week.

That's default for background-image. And it saves
bandwidth compared to a line as background image.

OK. Then they have fixed-background, top-to-bottom only in one column,
left to right only in one row and so on. Can you tile the
images aswell like:

AAAAAAAAAAAA
ABBBBBBBBBBA
ABBBBBBBBBBA
ABBBCCCCBBBA
ABBBCCCCBBBA
ABBBCCCCBBBA
ABBBBBBBBBBA
ABBBBBBBBBBA
AAAAAAAAAAAA

???

I just ask because an expert is around.

 

[Jan Faerber]

Neat

I wonder how difficult it would be to do something like that in CSS?

Can you get an onMouseOver event with css?

PS: http://spamassassin.apache.org/ - I found that link today.

 

[chlori]

Jan Faerber schrieb am 11.11.2004 22:09:

But it is improving a little week by week.

Some CSS links from Brucie's link collection (he posted
them earlier here in alt.html):

css tutorials and other fun 'n giggly css stuff:
http://www.css.nu/
http://www.mako4css.com/
http://www.richinstyle.com/
http://www.blazonry.com/css/
http://www.w3schools.com/css/
http://www.websitetips.com/css/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/
http://www.mezzoblue.com/css/cribsheet/
http://www.pageresource.com/dhtml/indexcss.htm
http://www.webpageworkshop.co.uk/main/css_index
http://old.climbtothestars.org/coding/cssbasic/
http://www.htmlcenter.com/tutorials/index.cfm/css/
http://www.freewebmastertips.com/php/content.php3?aid=48
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/web/writing_stylesheets.html
http://www.utoronto.ca/ian/books/xhtml2/exerpt/css-4a.html
http://www.greytower.net/en/archive/articles/tsutsumi.html
http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200101/csstutorial1a.html
http://webmonkey.com/authoring/stylesheets/tutorials/tutorial1.html

layout examples:
http://www.glish.com/css/
http://www.csszengarden.com/
http://www.bookofstyles.org/
http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/
http://www.saila.com/usage/layouts/
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/
http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev/
http://nemesis1.f2o.org/templates.php
http://www.xs4all.nl/~apple77/columns/
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/
http://www.htmler.org/tutorials/3/1.html
http://css.nu/articles/floating-boxes.html
http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/
http://www.roguelibrarian.com/lj/index.html
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts
http://ecoculture.com/styleguide/r/rollovers.html
http://thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/index.html
http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/

some sites using css layouts:
http://www.inc.com/
http://www.wired.com/
http://www.opera.com/
http://www.kitty5.com/
http://www.cinnamon.nl/
http://msn.espn.go.com/
http://www.virtuelvis.com/
http://www.emptybottle.org/
http://www.fastcompany.com/
http://www.littleyellowdifferent.com/
http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/2004/

rounded corners:
http://www.albin.net/CSS/roundedCorners/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners/
http://www.guyfisher.com/builder/workshop/css/corners/

slants: http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/slantinfo.html
lists: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/
pure css menus:
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/menus/demo.html>Fast
rollovers:
http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/cssnopreloadrollovers/

centering thingys
http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/center.html
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~laurirai/www/css/middle/
http://hicksdesign.co.uk/articles/css/vertical_centering_with_css/

master compatibility charts:
http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/index.html
http://macedition.com/cb/resources/abridgedcsssupport.html
old:
http://www.immix.net/html/CSSGuide.htm
http://devedge.netscape.com/library/xref/2003/css-support/

hiding CSS from crappy browsers:
http://diveintomark.org/safari/csshacks/
http://www.ericmeyeroncss.com/bonus/trick-hide.html
http://www.w3development.de/css/hide_css_from_browsers/

deadtree quick refs: http://visibone.com/html/

css checkers:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/csscheck/
http://examples.tobyinkster.co.uk/checkers

cascading style sheets, level 2 specification
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
cascading style sheets, level 2 revision 1 Candidate
Recommendation
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/

 

[Jan Faerber]

Jan Faerber schrieb am 11.11.2004 22:09:

Some CSS links from Brucie's link collection (he posted
them earlier here in alt.html):

'If you don't know me by now
you will never never know me.'

 

[Jan Faerber]

Jan Faerber wrote:

Can you get an onMouseOver event with css?

Oh yes, not with simple css.
But with CAS.
http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-AS