I just thought I'd post this if anyone had a real interest. If not well\nfine. The flame trolls should love it. kandr2 is out the window for me. Well\nI might keep it as reference. But it's /terrible/ for learning. About 2-3\nweeks ago I found a much simplified older book from '94 called "C\nprogramming in 12 easy lessons" by Greg Perry. It's *great*. It actually is\na tutorial and not a refernce. Good for amateurs and it's a start in the\nright direction.\n\nBill\nFYI for those who care.