I recently tried out the Google "top coder" contest, as a C++\ncoder. I noticed immediately that they expected me to know STL.\nTo which I say, what the fuck?!\n\nI may be missing something, but at what point when learning C++\nwas I supposed to have picked up STL? I ask because at every\njob I've had, and every job interview for that matter, whenever\nSTL comes up it's not I, but a manager who says effectively\nyuck, we don't use that crap.\n\nTo which I say good, I never learned that crap.\n\nNot that I haven't tried using it. The error messages that any\nnewbie-to-STL is bound to get were 100+ lines long. Really useful!\n\nGoogle clearly has stacked their contest against C++ programmers,\nwhich means that it is not about "top coders" after all.