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[Qu0ll]

"rossum" wrote in message

6) If you want me to write your program for you, my rates are $300 per
hour.

I hope that's your discounted rate for helping students. I personally don't
get out of bed for less than $10,000 per day ;-)

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[Robert Klemme]

On 26/02/14 15:10, Simon Lewis wrote:

A question I have often asked myself ... I've yet to find the definitive
answer.

If you find your answer please let me know.

I don't know how long you've been involved in software development but
this attitude of smug self satisfied pomposity pervades the software
industry like a nasty smell.

I cannot confirm that for the part of the software industry I am living
in. But I am at least as subjective as you are.

Cheers

robert

 

[Simon Lewis]

A question I have often asked myself ... I've yet to find the definitive answer.

I don't know how long you've been involved in software development but this
attitude of smug self satisfied pomposity pervades the software industry like a
nasty smell.

Especially in the "newer" areas I find : a lot of new bucks with little
experience and a too large cowboy hat. Java, CSS, HTML type groups are
far and away the worst.

This group is particularly well endowed with smart arses. It's interesting to
note that certain individuals who post here and in other groups only exhibit the
worst of their arrogance in c.l.j.p. They would be given short shrift if they
tried any of their nonsense in other groups. They are basically bullies and we
know that the only way to deal with a bully is to stand up to them as they are
also mostly cowards.

Correct. I couldn't agree more. Frankly, if someone finds IRC to get a
help with his homework then good luck to them :maybe they couldnt afford
the text book. And a patiently explained answer here could help them a
lot. What next "**** off Im not helping you because you're earning money
from your job and should work it out for yourself"?

Ho hum, it all adds to the rich tapestry of life I suppose

I gave up on IRC a long time ago, if you want to discuss Java stuff go ahead,
ignore the twats, there are helpful people here it's just that they sometimes
get drowned out by the noise.

True. I like IRC : the problem is that the minority of bullies and
clueless sheriffs invariably have OP status and ban you for disagreeing
with them.

 

[Joerg Meier]

Correct. I couldn't agree more. Frankly, if someone finds IRC to get a
help with his homework then good luck to them :maybe they couldnt afford
the text book. And a patiently explained answer here could help them a
lot. What next "**** off Im not helping you because you're earning money
from your job and should work it out for yourself"?

One problem I see in programming communities is a ridiculous attitude in
'help seekers'. Nobody would ever join a woodworking group and ask if
someone could make a bird house and mail it to them, for free, and then
complain when it's not the right colour. Yet when it comes to programming,
it seems like the vast majority of newbies expect to get exactly that.

Another aspect is that as programmers, we have come to learn that precision
good, vagueness bad. Hence questions like the OP are immediately and
emotionally seen as "the enemy".

Liebe Gruesse,
Joerg

 

[Lew]

Nicely done. Why is that Java groups and IRC channels in particular are
so full of self inflated pompous idiots who seem to be there only to
belittle others and demonstrate their inate stupidity and narrow
mindedness?

You and Lipska (not his real name) are in the best position to answer that question.

By the way, it's spelled "innate". And "narrow-mindedness" has a hyphen. As should
"self-inflated".

Now go back to your belittlement of others already in progress.

 

[David Lamb]

Well. Now that everyone has had the obligatory attempt at being a
smartarse and, hopefully, you have had time to figure this out for
yourself, try this.

Even if you dislike the smartass answers, you shouldn't be answering
people's homework questions for them.

 

[Qu0ll]

"lipska the kat" wrote in message

"not his real name" ... oh very funny Bloch, your insight is rightly
legendary.

Funny? Actually Lew has let his normally high standards slip a bit with
this one as he probably has no actual proof that "Lipska" is not your real
name. For mine, I am willing to entertain the possibility that although you
were born with a more mundane name, maybe at your official Newsgroup Pest of
the Year Award 2013 ceremony you used official means to change your name to
something to give you a more legendary vibe.

This from the master of belittlement. Now I know you are a Troll, as in
the true meaning of the word.

OK, given that "the true meaning of the word" is in fact "Any of a race of
supernatural beings, sometimes conceived as giants and sometimes as dwarfs,
inhabiting caves or subterranean dwellings" I think Lew will appreciate that
recognition.

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[Qu0ll]

"lipska the kat" wrote in message

Why?

Yep, gotta agree with you on this one Kitty. Why *shouldn't* we do their
homework for them?

Clearly they are incapable of doing it for themselves. And if they fail,
they may never get a job. And if people like this never got jobs, who would
you have on your team to make you look good? And anyway, if we don't do it
for them then I am sure they can find a solution from some other group,
someone else or copy off their mates.

Why put the poor dears through all that stress? And when they are presented
with the solution I am absolutely sure that they will go over it with a
fine-toothed comb and learn every aspect of software development embodied in
the code.

Clearly helping such people is a "win win". I get to show how smart I am
and they become the world's best programmer as a result. W00t!

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[Qu0ll]

"lipska the kat" wrote in message

Newsgroup Pest of the Year Award 2013 ... excellent, I can't say I know
that one but it sounds like fun. You are obviously cognizant of this
particular smug fest.

Were you a past winner?

Nope, tried hard but just not good enough at it. Not when I have Internet
Trolls (for clarity) like you to win year after year.

Fed up that your continued efforts to excel in this arena have gone
unnoticed?

Do you responses perhaps disprove your notion of "unnoticed"?

Never mind, there's always this year

True, but based on your achievements so far, I doubt anyone could catch up
with you again this year...

Apologies, I forgot that I was addressing pedants

Really? You forgot so quickly? Wasn't that one of the things you have been
complaining about for eons?

BTW 'Qu0ll' ... now that *would* look good engraved on the IPOTY trophy
wouldn't it?

True again. It would look good engraved anywhere. BTW, I actually *was* a
past winner of the Incredible Person of the Year in 2006.

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[Qu0ll]

"lipska the kat" wrote in message

Fantastic ... in what reality?

Interesting and also revealing question. The fact that you are promoting
the existence of multiple realities strengthens my suspicion that you are
often living in an alternate one.

My brother is an excellent carpenter, would you like him to come around
and widen the doors for you so you can get your massive head through them?
It must be tough living in one room.

No, but thanks for the offer. Given that the brain accounts for over 95% of
the volume of the head/cranium, I'll take that as a compliment.

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[Qu0ll]

"lipska the kat" wrote in message

Clearly you have never had to ask for help as you are so incredibly clever
and can learn an entire language simply by glancing at a Hello World
example.

Not true. The "Hello" example is usually sufficient.

Unfortunately many others are not so fortunate and need a bit of a push to
get them going.

Push? You classify spoon-feeding an answer as a "push". Or are you
actually in the habit of physically "pushing" anyone who is "not so
fortunate"?

Is that OK?

Yes, I have not problems accepting that there are others not so fortunate.

Oh gosh, I've been found out, what other reason could there possibly be?

Umm... none actually.

Qu0ll says so so it must be right.

At least you exhibit a willingness and fair ability to learn.

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[Volker Borchert]

please someone help me..what is the code of this output program using java
11
221
3321
44321
554321
6654321
77654321
887654321

please do your homework yourself

 

[Qu0ll]

"lipska the kat" wrote in message

What is not true? you're making even less sense than normal.
1. You have never had to ask for help.
2. You are incredibly clever
3. You can learn an entire language etc etc

Gosh, I didn't realise it was going to be so difficult to explain things to
you Puss.

You do understand Boolean Algebra don't you? When you evaluate a Boolean
expression, the fact that it may evaluate to "false" (as in my statement
"Not true" which implies "false") there may be a number of reasons why. So,
I was indicating that your Boolean expression evaluated to "false". I even
gave the reason.

Which part is not making sense as you put it?

I thought that might be a bit too subtle for you.

Oh, so it's a "subtle" push then? Still grounds for dismissal in most places
where I have worked ;-)

I know, it's hard when you are so far above everyone else in ability to
drag yourself down to their level but keep trying, you'll get there in the
end.

Well, like you, they usually try to drag *me* down.

How about altruism ... oh, hold on, that implies selflessness, no, sorry,
my mistake. You have already admitted that you confuse altruism with
egoism so I can't expect you to make that leap, it's still early days and
you still have a great deal to learn.

Wow, please quote my exact words where I "already admitted that you confuse
altruism with egoism" because I am not seeing it.

Are you American?

No, I am a rare, carnivorous native Australian marsupial. Not sure why
that's important BTW.

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[Qu0ll]

"lipska the kat" wrote in message

The reality that exists in what you would like me to believe is your mind
is obviously different to the actual reality that most of the rest of us
experience day to day.

Correct. But that doesn't prove the existence of multiple realities.

It's just too easy

http://www.rense.com/general63/brain.htm

Interesting but not sure about its relevance to the debate. Nevertheless,
if your suggestion is that my other natural assets could compensate if my
brain were ever to become obsolete then thanks again.

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[Qu0ll]

"lipska the kat" wrote in message

You're hard work aren't you? Oh well, in for a penny etc

Does that make sense now?

No. In fact your argument is about as bulletproof as someone proving their
job of removing elephants from the train tunnels of London is effective
because not one elephant has been spotted there for over a century. But I
am sure everyone appreciates how much effort you have put into formulating
that flimsy argument and how much effort you regularly put into discrediting
Lew or me or anyone else whose intelligence, knowledge or skills intimidate
you.

Oh you're *Australian* that explains the negativity, convicts often blame
the rest of the world for their predicament.

Right, so you are not only a troll but also a racist. You first refer to
Americans and now make racist remarks about Australians. What's next in
your xenophobic kit bag, some reference to Jews and or Godwin's Law?

On the basis of you exposing yourself as a bottom feeder, I will no longer
reply to any of your posts in this thread or any other unless you limit your
commentary to issues relating to Java or at the very least refrain from any
such totally unacceptable comments as those made by you in this post.

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[David Lamb]

Why?

For one thing, he or she probably attends an institution with an
Academic Integrity code that forbids them asking people to solve their
homework problems, so you're likely helping someone who is being
deliberately dishonest from the beginning.

I suspect he or she has access to instructors, teaching assistants, and
tutors who can spend one-on-one time leading him or her to the right
insights into solving the problem without actually giving away the whole
answer. Someone *might* be able to do such a thing online, and IIRC
someone upthread tried to do so, but face-to-face is usually faster and
more effective because it's easier to clue in to what's confusing the
student.

As to your comment upthread that people can gain insight from seeing a
solution, that may well happen *occasionally* but in my experience
that's much rarer than a student simply copying the answer and being
totally unable to cope with similar questions in the future, which is
the opposite of your intent.