Java Software Engineering Position (CSIRO - Sydney, Australia)

[Andrew]

A fantastic opportunity for an experienced Java Developer. We are currently
seeking a software engineer (5+ years commercial experience) to work in a small
team of engineers and scientists and be responsible for implementing
world-leading research ideas in software.

Reference Number: 2005/775
Position Title: Software Engineer - Information Delivery
Division: CSIRO ICT Centre
Location: North Ryde, NSW
Salary Range: $56k - $72k (AUD)
Tenure: 3 year term
Applicants: International Applicants Welcome
Relocation Assistance: May be offered to the successful applicant.
Applications Close: 17 Aug 2005
Job Category: Scientific Research

You can find out more about our research or about the CSIRO ICT Centre by
visiting: <http://www.ict.csiro.au/id>

See the full position description at
<http://recruitment.csiro.au/asp/job_details.asp?RefNo=2005/775> for details on
selection criteria, and how to apply.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[Dimitri Maziuk]

Andrew sez:

A fantastic opportunity for an experienced Java Developer.

A permanent CSIRO position with $72k AU (starting) + super, health,
and relocation costs would be "excellent". You'd have to do better
than that for "fantastic". As it is, it doesn't sound all that great.

HTH,HAND
Dima

 

[Andrew]

Andrew sez:

A permanent CSIRO position with $72k AU (starting) + super, health,
and relocation costs would be "excellent". You'd have to do better
than that for "fantastic". As it is, it doesn't sound all that great.

Hi Dimitri,

To address your points:
1. Super is in addition to the stated salary range. It's also a better
rate of superannuation than private industry will pay.
2. In Australia, it's very rare for health insurance to be part of an
employment package. This is not included.
3. As stated in the job ad, relocation costs *may* be covered for the
successful applicant.

I know damn well you can go out and earn a stack more money doing
software engineering grunt work in the financial services or a host of
other industries, but how much will you enjoy coming to work? What's
fantastic about this opportunity is the variety and nature of the work,
not to mention that it's in lovely sunny Sydney. There's more to life
than money my friend.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[Andrew Thompson]

...
I know damn well you can go out and earn a stack more money doing
software engineering grunt work in the financial services or a host of
other industries, but how much will you enjoy coming to work?

Money is good. Most of us have the sense to enjoy
or social lives and endure the earning.

I am not saying that some of us do *not* enjoy the
'grunt work'. I personally, had a great time on a
Swing contract earlier this year doing what was
primarily maintenance coding (debugging and tweaking
other people's code).

...What's
fantastic about this opportunity is the variety and nature of the work,
not to mention that it's in lovely sunny Sydney.

Yeah, already there.

..There's more to life
than money my friend.

There is. I was actually considering applying for your
position, (despite the bargain basement wage) but decided
not to waste my time when I saw the requirements.

Good luck with finding your candidate.

And as an aside, the folks around here are not too
partial to job adverts, though it is an ill-defined
area. I recommend that in future you limit yourselves
to advertising in the local media and the job networks.

 

[Dimitri Maziuk]

Andrew Thompson sez:

Money is good. Most of us have the sense to enjoy
or social lives and endure the earning.

Actually, the top mark is not bad at all for .auain academentia.
However, if you're a "welcome international applicant" from, say,
..us or .eu, and you want to spend your vacations at home, the price
of tickets will make you wince even at $72kpa -- provided they offer
you that much in the first place.

What you probably don't know is that main advantage of CSIRO jobs is
job security. Which doesn't seem to be the case here.

Dima