JSCRIPT and JavaScript - newbie Q

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Not much to do with the programming language here, but a question for you
experts: I have JRE 1.5.0.06 installed and get errors when I access the
Yahoo games site. The error is always IE causing a fault in JSCRIPT.DLL,
which as I understand is the MS version. IE is version 5.50. The IE window
then closes.

Can there be conflicts between an expected call to JSCRIPT and what JRE does
with it?
Is there a solution that anyone can suggest?

System is WinMe with all patches up to date. The system worked for some
months in this config before starting to collapse as of two weeks ago.

Yours ignorantly
JNW

 

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Not much to do with the programming language here, but a question for you
experts: I have JRE 1.5.0.06 installed

That is the Sun Java Runtime Engine.

and get errors when I access the
Yahoo games site. The error is always IE causing a fault in JSCRIPT.DLL,
which as I understand is the MS version.

That is JScript, Microsoft's ECMAScript implementation, while JavaScript
as implemented since version 1.1 is Netscape's ECMAScript implementation.
Neither one has anything to do with Java.

[...]
Can there be conflicts between an expected call to JSCRIPT and what JRE
does with it?

No, because the JRE does not handle calls to JScript.dll.


PointedEars

 

[lightsoff]

Not much to do with the programming language here, but a question for you
experts: I have JRE 1.5.0.06 installed

That is the Sun Java Runtime Engine.

and get errors when I access the
Yahoo games site. The error is always IE causing a fault in JSCRIPT.DLL,
which as I understand is the MS version.

That is JScript, Microsoft's ECMAScript implementation, while JavaScript
as implemented since version 1.1 is Netscape's ECMAScript implementation.
Neither one has anything to do with Java.

[...]
Can there be conflicts between an expected call to JSCRIPT and what JRE
does with it?

No, because the JRE does not handle calls to JScript.dll.


PointedEars

Thanks!

JNW

 

[Randy Webb]

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 12/13/2005 2:07 PM:

That is JScript, Microsoft's ECMAScript implementation, while JavaScript
as implemented since version 1.1 is Netscape's ECMAScript implementation.

Nonsense. JScript and Javascript in IE and Netscape, respectively, are
*_not_* "ECMAScript implementations". ECMA is an attempt to standardize
the behaviors in JScript and Javascript, not the other way around.

 

[Lasse Reichstein Nielsen]

Nonsense. JScript and Javascript in IE and Netscape, respectively, are
*_not_* "ECMAScript implementations". ECMA is an attempt to
standardize the behaviors in JScript and Javascript, not the other way
around.

ECMA standardized early versions of JScript and JavaScript. It didn't
necessarily agree with both on every point. Later versions of JScript
and JavaScript then both implemented ECMAScript.

"JScript is the Microsoft implementation of ECMAScript ..."
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/infocenter/scripting/default.aspx>

"At Netscape, we use the term "JavaScript" as the brand name for our
value-added implementation of the ECMA standard."
<URL:http://wp.netscape.com/comprod/columns/techvision/innovators_be.html>

/L

 

[VK]

Not much to do with the programming language here, but a question for you
experts: I have JRE 1.5.0.06 installed and get errors when I access the
Yahoo games site. The error is always IE causing a fault in JSCRIPT.DLL,
which as I understand is the MS version. IE is version 5.50. The IE window
then closes.

Can there be conflicts between an expected call to JSCRIPT and what JRE does
with it?
Is there a solution that anyone can suggest?

System is WinMe with all patches up to date. The system worked for some
months in this config before starting to collapse as of two weeks ago.

Yours ignorantly
JNW

Sun Java is not supported by Microsoft systems anymore. So all kind of
glitches should be expected. To play Yahoo games you don't need Java
anyway: there are much more stable and effective ActiveX controls.

1) Uninstall Java plugin.

2) Go to your Yahoo Games page and click "OK" when prompted to install
new control. Enjoy.

3) If you need Sun Java plugin for another browser, install it again
(but only after steps 1-2!) During the installation there will be a
screen with options what browsers to bind the plugin to. Do not miss
it: that is your only chance given by Sun! Make sure that Internet
Explorer is *unchecked*.

4) IE 5.5 is really barely enough for a good browsing experience,
especially with games in mind. If you decided to stay with IE, upgrade
at least to IE 6.0 SP1

 

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Sun Java is not supported by Microsoft systems anymore.

Nonsense as usual. <URL:http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/>


PointedEars

 

[lightsoff]

Thanks for the help
JNW

Sun Java is not supported by Microsoft systems anymore. So all kind of
glitches should be expected. To play Yahoo games you don't need Java
anyway: there are much more stable and effective ActiveX controls.

1) Uninstall Java plugin.

2) Go to your Yahoo Games page and click "OK" when prompted to install
new control. Enjoy.

3) If you need Sun Java plugin for another browser, install it again
(but only after steps 1-2!) During the installation there will be a
screen with options what browsers to bind the plugin to. Do not miss
it: that is your only chance given by Sun! Make sure that Internet
Explorer is *unchecked*.

4) IE 5.5 is really barely enough for a good browsing experience,
especially with games in mind. If you decided to stay with IE, upgrade
at least to IE 6.0 SP1

 

[lightsoff]

Thanks for the help. JRE now gone, I shall give Opera a try-out.

JNW

 

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Thanks for the help. JRE now gone, I shall give Opera a try-out.

So you listened to V'Often Wrong'K. You'll see what that will get you.

That said, Opera is not the worst choice over IE; but to switch because
of Java and because of bad, or better put, awfully wrong advice regarding
it is nonsense.

You should have used the Repair feature of IE or reinstall IE and it would
have been likely that the error, cause by IE's script engine, would have
been gone.

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