[QUOTE="tactical"]\nData can be physically stolen: If somebody steals my hard disc, they also\nsteal the data on it. I no longer have that data.\n\nUsing the word 'stolen' when referring to identities is, as far as I can\ntell, a metaphor. It seems like a good metaphor to me, because in general\nan identity has only one instance. If someone 'steals' my identity, I can\nno longer use it, in general.\n\nThis metaphor doesn't work well when it comes to copyright violation,\nhowever. If somebody downloads a computer game illegally, the manufacturer\nof the computer hasn't lost the game. They still have it. The illegal\ndownload was of a *copy* of the game.\n\nSo it's not theft or stealing -\- it's copyright violation. (Note that I'm\ncertainly not arguing in favor of copyright violation. I'm arguing only\nthat we should use terms correctly.)\n\n\nOf course that's theft. It involves money being taken away (from either\nyou or your bank, depending on the situation and one's perspective). Sure,\nthe *process* that leads to money being taken away might be complex and\ntechnological, but the end result is the same: The rightful owner of the\ncash has had her/his money taken away, with the end result being that they\nno longer have it.[/QUOTE]\n\n+1 (pet peeve)\n\nEveryone NEEDS TO understand the concept of rivalry.\n\n[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivalry_(economics)[/URL]\n\nA piece of software is a non-rival good; in other words, "it may be\nconsumed by one consumer without preventing simultaneous consumption\nby others."\n\nThe copyright cartels (the MAFIAA) are trying so very hard to\nmanufacture these artificial semantic shifts that it should\nrightfully be considered propaganda.\n\ncf. "piracy", "theft", "intellectual property",\n"digital rights management"\n\n[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement[/URL]\n\nThere's a special place in Hell for these people.