Universal (g)libc

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Keith Thompson

Roger said:
Keith Thompson wrote: [...]
I had to blow the dust of the K&R. Allthougth I have it I never use it
as I know it by heart. I know that the lib c in K&R only includes
stdio.h wrt interfaces to the real world. So can I assume from that
this ng considers OT anything that cannot be directly implemented using
the libc of K&R. It would seem a bit narrow to me.

I mentioned K&R because it's a reference you're likely to have. The C
language is defined by the ISO standard.

You can certainly do plenty of system-specific and non-portable things
in C, using libraries beyond those defined by the standard. We just
don't discuss them here, largely because we lack the expertise, and
largely because there are plenty of newsgroups that discuss particular
systems.

[...]
Does not really seem an appropriate place to ask about a good libc
implementation for Win32. If they are as pedantic over there as you lot
over here are I would be flamed to ashes ;-)

There are also a number of Windows newsgroups. You might try
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32.
 
K

Kenneth Brody

Roger said:
Hmm...valid and interesting comments. Of course I could also ask 'why
does your news reader not know how to arrange in threads'?

The same could be said for top-posting. "What's the problem? The
text I'm replying to is all there!"

Even though my newsreader properly threads articles (assuming that
the poster's properly includes the proper header lines), why should
I have to switch back and forth between the reply and the message
it was replying to? And, if the original message made several points
(as is quite often the case), then which point(s) are you answering?

This also assumes that the original message has actually arrived at
my newsserver prior to my reading the reply, and that it hasn't yet
expired.

It's no better than a message which says "there are several possible
causes of your problem, A, B, or C, and there are several possible
solutions which are X, Y, and Z", and replying with "thanks, that
solved it".

[...]
I have posted questions on ng's asking if anybody knew **how**
to quote automatically with google or if anybody knows a good
alternative site. But, until now, I had no satifactory answer.

Do you have a better answer than "do steps A, B, C, and D, and then
a 'quote original' button magically appears"?

[...]

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Roger

Keith Thompson wrote:

[...]
Does not really seem an appropriate place to ask about a good libc
implementation for Win32. If they are as pedantic over there as you lot
over here are I would be flamed to ashes ;-)

There are also a number of Windows newsgroups. You might try
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32.

Who would point me at .net because it is 'real cool'.

AFAIK there is no ng that adresses cross platform programming in C.
This is a shame. But nonetheless, I am the intruder here so I shall go
away quitely ;-)
 
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Flash Gordon

Roger wrote:

AFAIK there is no ng that adresses cross platform programming in C.
This is a shame.

We deal with a number of aspects of cross-platform programming, just not
the aspect you are currently interested in which is a cross platform
library for things that can't be done in standard C.

You could try looking in comp.programming which sounds like a more
generic group to me, but check the group out before posting since I
don't actually subscribe to it myself so it might not be appropriate.
> But nonetheless, I am the intruder here so I shall go
away quitely ;-)

At last, someone who accepts when something is off topic :)

We will happily help you with problems which are standard C (including
the standard library).
 
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Default User

Kenneth said:
Roger wrote: \
Even though my newsreader properly threads articles (assuming that
the poster's properly includes the proper header lines), why should
I have to switch back and forth between the reply and the message
it was replying to? And, if the original message made several points
(as is quite often the case), then which point(s) are you answering?

I have my newsreader set to only display unread messages, so if the
referenced post was from a previous "session" I won't see it. I can of
course change my settings to View All and wait while it rethreads
everything, but that's not what I normally do.

BTW, I don't think the Preview method of getting quotes in Google makes
much sense. I still use Google at home, and I much prefer the method
referenced in my .sig.


Brian
 
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James Dow Allen

The problem is not that the interface doesn't work, but that
no one (other than me) knows how it works.

Thanks for the tip about Google.

Back in the 60's and 70's technical companies were
proud to create clear manuals, but this doesn't seem
to be the modern way. Instead computer interfaces
are like the old Super Mario Brothers game -- you're
supposed to jump around randomly and find Easter eggs.

I once watched a guy compiling a C program on his
Macintosh. (He must have been a "computer scientist":
he had a whole stack of ACM journals in his bookcase.)
He smiled and said "Holding down the Option Key
while I click on Compile turns on the optimizer ...
I think." He seemed proud to have stumbled on this
"Easter egg" -- I was horrified.

Someone else (whose name I deleted while editing the above --

Google's web designers are probably lounging on the beaches
of Tahiti laughing at us. Whatever else, Google seems
adept at Post-literate Economics:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/polit2.htm

James
 

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