J
JJ
I see the new software is 'RTM' but what does that mean in terms of when we
can actually purchase it?
Thanks,
JJ
can actually purchase it?
Thanks,
JJ
R
Rory Becker
I see the new software is 'RTM' but what does that mean in terms of
MSDN subscribers can download now
Others can have access to a trial now.
I have heard that it will be available to general retail by about Jan
The trial edition lasts 90 days though so you could reasonably use that until
the retail version was available.
I am not sure if you can upgrade from a Trial to another edition. It might
require that you manually uninstall the trial and then install a full edition.
But either way this gives most people a good way forward.
The express editions are another alternative.
MSDN subscribers can download now
Others can have access to a trial now.
I have heard that it will be available to general retail by about Jan
The trial edition lasts 90 days though so you could reasonably use that until
the retail version was available.
I am not sure if you can upgrade from a Trial to another edition. It might
require that you manually uninstall the trial and then install a full edition.
But either way this gives most people a good way forward.
The express editions are another alternative.
J
JJ
Do you know if Visual Studio Professional 2008 has any advantages over
Visual Web Developer Express if you are just using Visual Studio for web
development?
And can you develop .net framework 2.0 site with VS 2008?
Do many hosts now support .net 3.5? I'm concerned about jumping into this
too early and finding I can't use some hosts?
Sorry for all the questions!
Thanks,
JJ
Visual Web Developer Express if you are just using Visual Studio for web
development?
And can you develop .net framework 2.0 site with VS 2008?
Do many hosts now support .net 3.5? I'm concerned about jumping into this
too early and finding I can't use some hosts?
Sorry for all the questions!
Thanks,
JJ
J
JJ
For instance, is it only professional that includes sql server?
I can't find a product comparison page for the different editions which
seems odd?!
I can't find a product comparison page for the different editions which
seems odd?!
JJ said:
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Leon Mayne
JJ said:
The express editions are for learning and hobbyists. You can connect to a
SQL Express database using the express editions, but not any other SQL
Server edition.
L
Leon Mayne
JJ said:
Any 'advanced' features are missing from the express edition. If you are
just creating a simple website by yourself using SQL Express then you can
stick with the express edition.
Yes, you can now pick which framework version you want to create a project
against
Probably not yet, but I guess they'll install it soon to keep up to date
R
Rory Becker
Do you know if Visual Studio Professional 2008 has any advantages over
I really don't know but I'd guess there has to be. I have VS2008 Pro through
subscription and so have not paid much attention to the Express skus
Very specifically YES! you can. New feature multitargetting allows targetting
2.0, 3.0 or 3.5
Well .Net framework waqs releasedon the 19th so only those who are really
quick off the mark will be offering it just yet
I really don't know but I'd guess there has to be. I have VS2008 Pro through
subscription and so have not paid much attention to the Express skus
Very specifically YES! you can. New feature multitargetting allows targetting
2.0, 3.0 or 3.5
Well .Net framework waqs releasedon the 19th so only those who are really
quick off the mark will be offering it just yet
J
JJ
Really? So I cannot connect to my SQL Server 2005 developer edition with
Visual Studio 2008 Web Express?
Visual Studio 2008 Web Express?
L
Leon Mayne
JJ said:
I don't think so, unless this has changed in 2008.
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JJ
Its difficult to know what 'advanced' means here. I certainly want to
connect to sql 2005 (or later) databases as a minimum.
I also want to target an individual framework - not sure if that is possible
in the express edition either
I am not sure what features are missing from the express edition (regarding
web sites), due to lack of information on the microsoft site. A simple table
of comparitive features would be useful !!
connect to sql 2005 (or later) databases as a minimum.
I also want to target an individual framework - not sure if that is possible
in the express edition either
I am not sure what features are missing from the express edition (regarding
web sites), due to lack of information on the microsoft site. A simple table
of comparitive features would be useful !!
M
Mark Rae [MVP]
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Mark Rae [MVP]
No - VWDE can connect to any version of SQL Server...
J
JJ
Thanks - do you know what other features are missing in the express editions
regarding web development?
regarding web development?
M
Mark Rae [MVP]
No, sorry - I've never had any occasion to use it...
L
Leon Mayne
JJ said:
Found this, but it refers to the 2005 express edition:
http://blogs.msdn.com/mikhailarkhipov/archive/2006/06/26/647516.aspx
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JJ
Thanks. Well, deployment projects are a must to deploy as dll and embed
resources, as is creating a solution with class libraries.
So I guess I'll have to wait until VS 2008 Pro becomes available. I wonder
what the upgrade cost will be and if the upgrade will disable my VS 2005
install.....
Hopefully miscrosoft will update their Visual Studio pages to give this sort
of basic information prior to the release to the public (i.e. non msdn
users)(!)
resources, as is creating a solution with class libraries.
So I guess I'll have to wait until VS 2008 Pro becomes available. I wonder
what the upgrade cost will be and if the upgrade will disable my VS 2005
install.....
Hopefully miscrosoft will update their Visual Studio pages to give this sort
of basic information prior to the release to the public (i.e. non msdn
users)(!)
R
Rory Becker
So I guess I'll have to wait until VS 2008 Pro becomes available. I
VS2008 should not change VS2005 in any way. With 1 minor exception.
VS2008 installs the .Net framework 3.5 which includes sp1 of .Net 2.0 framework
and therefore there may be minor internal changes to the copy of .Net 2.0
which will reside on the box.
This means you should make sure that any 2.0 apps you distribute check the
sp status of the destination machine and install sp1 of .Net 2.0 at a minimum
for maximum compatability.
VS2008 should not change VS2005 in any way. With 1 minor exception.
VS2008 installs the .Net framework 3.5 which includes sp1 of .Net 2.0 framework
and therefore there may be minor internal changes to the copy of .Net 2.0
which will reside on the box.
This means you should make sure that any 2.0 apps you distribute check the
sp status of the destination machine and install sp1 of .Net 2.0 at a minimum
for maximum compatability.
J
Juan T. Llibre
The following product comparison guide, for VS 2005 and VWD, should serve as a guide.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa700921.aspx
In general, the products will have roughly the same limitations.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa700921.aspx
In general, the products will have roughly the same limitations.
JJ said:
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Leon Mayne
JJ said:
The best way to get Visual Studio is through an MSDN subscription anyway. If
you buy a Visual Studio Professional with MSDN Professional subscription for
about $1,100 then you can get Visual Studio 2008 Pro now, as well as all the
other programs that come with the subscription:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/vstudio/aa718657.aspx
M
Mark Rae [MVP]
Absolutely! I couldn't agree more...