with as a reserved word

[BBands]

I gather that 'with' is on its way to becoming a reserved word. Is
this something that will break?

import Gnuplot
gp = Gnuplot.Gnuplot(debug=1)
data = Gnuplot.Data([1,2,3,4,3,2,3,4,3,2,1], with='linespoints')
gp.plot(data)

http://www.gnuplot.info/
http://gnuplot-py.sourceforge.net/

This was run by PyScripter 1.8.7.1 with Python 2.5.

jab

 

[kyosohma]

I gather that 'with' is on its way to becoming a reserved word. Is
this something that will break?

import Gnuplot
gp = Gnuplot.Gnuplot(debug=1)
data = Gnuplot.Data([1,2,3,4,3,2,3,4,3,2,1], with='linespoints')
gp.plot(data)

http://www.gnuplot.info/http://gnuplot-py.sourceforge.net/

This was run by PyScripter 1.8.7.1 with Python 2.5.

jab

Looks that way since you can assign anything to 'for' or 'if' or other
reserved words.

Mike

 

[Francesco Guerrieri]

Within gnuplot you can shorten "with" to "w", don't know if it can
work inside a call to Gnuplot.Data()....

francesco

I gather that 'with' is on its way to becoming a reserved word. Is
this something that will break?

import Gnuplot
gp = Gnuplot.Gnuplot(debug=1)
data = Gnuplot.Data([1,2,3,4,3,2,3,4,3,2,1], with='linespoints')
gp.plot(data)

http://www.gnuplot.info/
http://gnuplot-py.sourceforge.net/

This was run by PyScripter 1.8.7.1 with Python 2.5.

jab

--
"Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as
both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no
mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant,
vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation
stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent
vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and
voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a
vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of
such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily,
this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an
introduction, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to
meet you and you may call me V." -- V's introduction to Evey

 

[Fredrik Lundh]

I gather that 'with' is on its way to becoming a reserved word. Is
this something that will break?
yes.

import Gnuplot
gp = Gnuplot.Gnuplot(debug=1)
data = Gnuplot.Data([1,2,3,4,3,2,3,4,3,2,1], with='linespoints')

if you have Python 2.5, you can try it out yourself:
File "<stdin>", line 1
dict(with=1)
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

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[BBands]

if you have Python 2.5, you can try it out yourself:

File "<stdin>", line 1
dict(with=1)
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

I see that this change appears to be final.

http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0343/

I don't have an opinion, pro or con, on this PEP, but I'll bet that it
breaks a lot of code.

jab

 

[Fredrik Lundh]

I don't have an opinion, pro or con, on this PEP, but I'll bet that it
breaks a lot of code.

that's why you get warnings in 2.5, so you have time to update your
code; see:

http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0005/

estimating what "a lot" is isn't trivial, but it's worth noting that a
search for "langython \swith\W" over at google's code search only
brings up about 200 cases, and most of those are found in comments and
string literals. and in Zope.

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[BBands]

estimating what "a lot" is isn't trivial, but it's worth noting that a
search for "langython \swith\W" over at google's code search only
brings up about 200 cases, and most of those are found in comments and
string literals. and in Zope.

Well then, it would seem that the problems will be minimal. Good. I'll
have a look a the gnuplot.py code and post heads-up note to their
list.

Thanks,

jab