how to play different types of audio-video files in the browser?

Discussion in 'Javascript' started by anil.rita@gmail.com, Dec 25, 2006.

  1. Guest

    When the user chooses an AV file to play, based upon the type of file,
    I want to use the default installed media player to play it.

    I am wondering if this is a good way - any alternatives, suggestions or
    improvements?

    if( wmv file)
    document.write("<OBJECT id=Player
    classid=CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11d3-B153-00C04F79FAA6 height="354"
    width="479">
    <PARAM NAME="autoStart" VALUE="true">
    </OBJECT>
    ");

    if( swf file)
    document.write("flash classid")

    if(rm file)
    document.write("real audio classid")


    Qs:
    1) How to tell which players are installed on the system?
    2) How to make reentrant ie. let user play flash now, then afterwards
    in the same browser, play wmv etc.
    3) Is it possible to minimise or make invisible the players that are
    not being played?
    4) what if a player is not installed - will the OBJECT tag fail
    gracefully?

    thanks,
    Anil
     
    , Dec 25, 2006
    #1
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  2. cwdjrxyz Guest

    wrote:
    > When the user chooses an AV file to play, based upon the type of file,
    > I want to use the default installed media player to play it.
    >
    > I am wondering if this is a good way - any alternatives, suggestions or
    > improvements?
    >
    > if( wmv file)
    > document.write("<OBJECT id=Player
    > classid=CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11d3-B153-00C04F79FAA6 height="354"
    > width="479">
    > <PARAM NAME="autoStart" VALUE="true">
    > </OBJECT>
    > ");


    The above and the 2 objects below use an ActiveX classid and thus these
    are all thus ActiveX objects. Thus they will not work on most non-IE
    browsers as written. In many cases you can use an ordinary object for
    both IE and other browsers and avoid invalid embed paths for other
    browsers.

    > if( swf file)
    > document.write("flash classid")
    >
    > if(rm file)
    > document.write("real audio classid")
    >
    >
    > Qs:
    > 1) How to tell which players are installed on the system?


    Complicated at best, and subject to change without notice on player
    upgrades. Avoid when possible

    > 2) How to make reentrant ie. let user play flash now, then afterwards
    > in the same browser, play wmv etc.


    I will give you an example below.

    > 3) Is it possible to minimise or make invisible the players that are
    > not being played?


    Yes, an example follows below.

    > 4) what if a player is not installed - will the OBJECT tag fail
    > gracefully?


    Yes, if the code is properly written - no player = no display

    See my page at http://www.cwdjr.info/temp/video_multiFormat2.php and be
    sure to read the comments in the source. The page is written mainly to
    stream for a high broadband connection. A connection that will not
    support over 2Mbps will cause long buffering on some files. It is
    possible to offer multiple bitrates for high broadband, low, broadband,
    and dialup. See http://www.cwdjr.info/temp/video_multiBR3.php . for an
    example of this. Notice that I am using playlist files such as .wax
    (for WMP), .rpm for Real players etc. These can contain one or more
    video url references to urls for files that WMP, Real, or other player
    can play. The SMIL program is directed to the Real player, because Real
    has builtin support for most of SMIL2. Some other players have very
    limited SMIL support, so you don't want the SMIL file getting directed
    to these. The .mov file required the most complex object, and here I
    had to use both ActiveX and object paths as determined by Microsoft
    conditional comments.

    There is a recent complication for the WMP that everyone who embeds
    videos using this player should be aware of. The new WMP11 can be
    installed only on Windows XP(and likely Vista) OSs, but there are a
    huge number of such OSs out there that may be viewing your videos. If
    you embed a video and the width of the video called for in the object
    is greater than the actual width for a .wmv file, the width is
    stretched to the width called for in the code, but the height is not on
    non-IE browsers including recent Opera, Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape, and
    Seamonkey. However the image is normal viewed on an IE browser. If you
    have a Windows XP OS, the new WMP11 installed, and script turned on,
    you can see an example at
    http://www.cwdjr.info/temp/video_multiFormat.php. It will view as
    normal on IE and distorted on the mentioned non-IE browsers. Hopefully
    Microsoft will correct this bug. Until then the way to avoid it is to
    call for the same width in the object code as the actual width of the
    ..wmv or other video files played by the WMP11. If the actual width of
    the video is not what you need for your page layout, then the video
    should be re-encoded at the desired width. If you do not heed the above
    and have a commercial site, your viewers of slim young ladies in swim
    wear you wish to sell may stretch the ladies to the width of Henry VIII
    for those using the WMP11 on a non-IE browser until,and if, Microsoft
    fixes this bug.!
     
    cwdjrxyz, Dec 26, 2006
    #2
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  3. Guest

    Hello cwdjrxyz,
    Thank you for the pointers.
    Reading through video_multiformat2 source,
    I am having difficulty with the following:
    <object data="http://www.cwdjr.net/ram/realmix.rpm"
    type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" ....

    The plugin is loaded from a remote url.
    Is there any way to load the player that is installed on the local
    desktop instead?
    When disconnected from the internet, the user should still be able to
    play the AV files.

    thanks,
    Anil


    On Dec 25, 8:01 pm, "cwdjrxyz" <> wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > When the user chooses an AV file to play, based upon the type of file,
    > > I want to use the default installed media player to play it.

    >
    > > I am wondering if this is a good way - any alternatives, suggestions or
    > > improvements?

    >
    > > if( wmv file)
    > > document.write("<OBJECT id=Player
    > > classid=CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11d3-B153-00C04F79FAA6 height="354"
    > > width="479">
    > > <PARAM NAME="autoStart" VALUE="true">
    > > </OBJECT>
    > > ");The above and the 2 objects below use an ActiveX classid and thus these

    > are all thus ActiveX objects. Thus they will not work on most non-IE
    > browsers as written. In many cases you can use an ordinary object for
    > both IE and other browsers and avoid invalid embed paths for other
    > browsers.
    >
    > > if( swf file)
    > > document.write("flash classid")

    >
    > > if(rm file)
    > > document.write("real audio classid")

    >
    > > Qs:
    > > 1) How to tell which players are installed on the system?Complicated at best, and subject to change without notice on player

    > upgrades. Avoid when possible
    >
    > > 2) How to make reentrant ie. let user play flash now, then afterwards
    > > in the same browser, play wmv etc.I will give you an example below.

    >
    > > 3) Is it possible to minimise or make invisible the players that are
    > > not being played?Yes, an example follows below.

    >
    > > 4) what if a player is not installed - will the OBJECT tag fail
    > > gracefully?Yes, if the code is properly written - no player = no display

    >
    > See my page athttp://www.cwdjr.info/temp/video_multiFormat2.phpand be
    > sure to read the comments in the source. The page is written mainly to
    > stream for a high broadband connection. A connection that will not
    > support over 2Mbps will cause long buffering on some files. It is
    > possible to offer multiple bitrates for high broadband, low, broadband,
    > and dialup. Seehttp://www.cwdjr.info/temp/video_multiBR3.php. for an
    > example of this. Notice that I am using playlist files such as .wax
    > (for WMP), .rpm for Real players etc. These can contain one or more
    > video url references to urls for files that WMP, Real, or other player
    > can play. The SMIL program is directed to the Real player, because Real
    > has builtin support for most of SMIL2. Some other players have very
    > limited SMIL support, so you don't want the SMIL file getting directed
    > to these. The .mov file required the most complex object, and here I
    > had to use both ActiveX and object paths as determined by Microsoft
    > conditional comments.
    >
    > There is a recent complication for the WMP that everyone who embeds
    > videos using this player should be aware of. The new WMP11 can be
    > installed only on Windows XP(and likely Vista) OSs, but there are a
    > huge number of such OSs out there that may be viewing your videos. If
    > you embed a video and the width of the video called for in the object
    > is greater than the actual width for a .wmv file, the width is
    > stretched to the width called for in the code, but the height is not on
    > non-IE browsers including recent Opera, Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape, and
    > Seamonkey. However the image is normal viewed on an IE browser. If you
    > have a Windows XP OS, the new WMP11 installed, and script turned on,
    > you can see an example athttp://www.cwdjr.info/temp/video_multiFormat.php. It will view as
    > normal on IE and distorted on the mentioned non-IE browsers. Hopefully
    > Microsoft will correct this bug. Until then the way to avoid it is to
    > call for the same width in the object code as the actual width of the
    > .wmv or other video files played by the WMP11. If the actual width of
    > the video is not what you need for your page layout, then the video
    > should be re-encoded at the desired width. If you do not heed the above
    > and have a commercial site, your viewers of slim young ladies in swim
    > wear you wish to sell may stretch the ladies to the width of Henry VIII
    > for those using the WMP11 on a non-IE browser until,and if, Microsoft
    > fixes this bug.!
     
    , Dec 26, 2006
    #3
  4. cwdjrxyz Guest

    wrote:
    > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > Thank you for the pointers.
    > Reading through video_multiformat2 source,
    > I am having difficulty with the following:
    > <object data="http://www.cwdjr.net/ram/realmix.rpm"
    > type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" ....
    >
    > The plugin is loaded from a remote url.
    > Is there any way to load the player that is installed on the local
    > desktop instead?
    > When disconnected from the internet, the user should still be able to
    > play the AV files.


    The rpm, with the mime type for it given, is just a standard type of
    Real playlist file. It points to where the actual media file or files
    are stored. This is just standard procedure, and ensures that the
    actual media file gets sent to the real player. The Real developer site
    has more details on Real than most people ever will wish to know,
    including SMIL that Real will play if a SMIL file is directed to it.

    The rpm file is:
    http://www.cwdjr.net/ram/realmix.smil

    In this case it points to the SMIL file at the given url.

    If you want to play the smill file locally, you just feed the local
    address on the computer where it is stored into the Real Player that
    you have brought up. The SMIL2 file is a type of xml file, and in this
    case is:

    <smil xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/SMIL20/Language">
    <head>
    <layout>
    <root-layout width="500" height="450" backgroundColor="blue" />
    <region id="video_region" backgroundColor="blue" z-index="1" />
    <regPoint id="middle" left="50%" top="50%" regAlign="center" />
    <region id="brush_region_1" width="25%" height="50%" left="0" top="0"
    z-index="2" />
    <region id="brush_region_2" width="25%" height="50%" left="25%" top="0"
    z-index="2" />
    <region id="brush_region_3" width="25%" height="50%" left="50%" top="0"
    z-index="2" />
    <region id="brush_region_4" width="25%" height="50%" left="75%" top="0"
    z-index="2" />
    <region id="brush_region_5" width="25%" height="50%" left="0" top="50%"
    z-index="2" />
    <region id="brush_region_6" width="25%" height="50%" left="25%"
    top="50%" z-index="2" />
    <region id="brush_region_7" width="25%" height="50%" left="50%"
    top="50%" z-index="2" />
    <region id="brush_region_8" width="25%" height="50%" left="75%"
    top="50%" z-index="2" />
    </layout>
    <transition id="fromBlue" type="spiralWipe" subtype="topLeftClockwise"
    dur="5s" />
    <transition id="fromStar" type="starWipe" subtype="fivePoint" dur="5s"
    />
    <transition id="fromKeyhole" type="miscShapeWipe" subtype="keyhole"
    dur="5s" />
    <transition id="fromHexagon" type="hexagonWipe" subtype="vertical"
    dur="5s" />
    <transition id="fromBarnZigZag" type="barnZigZagWipe"
    subtype="vertical" dur="10s" />
    <transition id="fromFourBox" type="fourBoxWipe" subtype="cornersIn"
    dur="10s" />
    <transition id="fromPinWheel" type="pinWheelWipe" subtype="fourBlade"
    dur="5s" />
    <transition id="fromSnake" type="snakeWipe" subtype="topLeftHorizontal"
    dur="10s" />
    <transition id="toBlue" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    fadeColor="blue" dur="5s" />
    <transition id="toRed" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    fadeColor="red" dur="5s" />
    <transition id="toGreen" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    fadeColor="green" dur="5s" />
    <transition id="toYellow" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    fadeColor="yellow" dur="5s" />
    </head>
    <body>
    <seq>
    <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/roach.gif" id="image1"
    region="video_region" dur="34s" width="256" height="256" left="0"
    top="0" fill="hold" title="The SMIL Bug">
    <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="width" from="256"
    to="128" begin="3s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="height" values="256;128"
    calcMode="linear" begin="4s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="left" to="196"
    begin="9s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="top" to="196"
    begin="14s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    <animateMotion targetElement="image1" to="-128,-128" begin="19s"
    dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    <set targetElement="image1" attributeName="left" to="64" begin="24s"
    fill="freeze" />
    <set targetElement="image1" attributeName="top" to="64" begin="24s"
    fill="freeze" />
    <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="height" to="256"
    begin="26s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="width" to="256"
    begin="26s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    <animateMotion targetElement="image1" to="0,0" begin="30s" dur="4s"
    fill="freeze" />
    </img>
    </seq>
    <seq>
    <par>
    <audio
    src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/souopera/Tetrazzini_CaroNome_1911.rmj"
    title="Caro Nome RA" author="Tetrazzini" />
    <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picsnap/roscoe_foil2.jpg"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromBarnZigZag"
    transOut="toGreen" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="240s" z-index="3" />
    </par>
    </seq>
    <!-- remove comment tags from around below code to play midi. It is not
    included here as Real may ask you to install the Crescendo plugin to
    play the midi. -->
    <!--
    <seq>
    <par>
    <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/cancan.mid" title="Cancan mid" />
    <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picani/dancer_blacktights.gif"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromStar"
    transOut="toYellow" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="120s" />
    </par>
    </seq>
    -->
    <seq>
    <par>
    <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/souearly/ColumbiaExpositionMarch.wma"
    title="Columbia Exposition March WMA" author="Sousa" />
    <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picsnap/roscoe.jpg"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromFourBox"
    transOut="toYellow" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="148s" />
    </par>
    </seq>
    <seq>
    <par>
    <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/SidewalksOfNewYork.mp3"
    title="Sidewalks Of New York MP3" />
    <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/pic3/burlesque_house2.jpg"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromSnake"
    transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="95s" />
    </par>
    </seq>
    <seq>
    <par>
    <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/ZarahLeander.ram" title="Zarah
    Leander RA" />
    <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/aurora5f.jpg" region="video_region"
    regPoint="middle" transIn="fromStar" transOut="toBlue" begin="2s"
    fill="remove" dur="158s" />
    </par>
    </seq>
    <seq>
    <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/eyeslicesmall.ram"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="eye slice - RM"
    transIn="fromPinWheel" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove"
    dur="70s" />
    </seq>
    <seq>
    <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/pianopullsmall.ram"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="piano pull - RM"
    transIn="fromHexagon" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove"
    dur="119s" />
    </seq>
    <seq>
    <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/Nosferatu.rmvb"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="Nosferatu - RM"
    transIn="fromStar" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="175s"
    />
    </seq>
    <seq>
    <par>
    <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/caligari.rmvb"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="Cabinet Of Dr Caligari -
    RM" begin="4s" />
    <brush color="teal" region="brush_region_1" begin="0s" end="7s" />
    <brush color="fuchsia" region="brush_region_2" begin="0.5s" end="9s" />
    <brush color="olive" region="brush_region_3" begin="1s" end="5s" />
    <brush color="red" region="brush_region_4" begin="1.5s" end="11s" />
    <brush color="purple" region="brush_region_5" begin="2s" end="12s" />
    <brush color="blue" region="brush_region_6" begin="2.5s" end="8s" />
    <brush color="maroon" region="brush_region_7" begin="3s" end="10s" />
    <brush color="navy" region="brush_region_8" begin="3.5s" end="6s" />
    </par>
    </seq>
    <seq>
    <par>
    <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/donkey.wav" title="donkey wav"
    begin="7s" />
    <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/pic/horse_fanny3.jpg"
    region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromBlue"
    transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="15s" />
    </par>
    </seq>
    </body>
    </smil>

    Of course you would also have to point image files to where you store
    these on the computer also if you want to be offline when you play the
    media.

    All of these media are designed for progressive download streaming on a
    website. Of course you could store all of the media files in the same
    directory as the SMIL file and use relative urls to make it more simple
    to play offline. However, I did not care to duplicate a lot of long
    media files that I already had stored at various locations on the
    server.
     
    cwdjrxyz, Dec 26, 2006
    #4
  5. Guest

    Hello cwdjrxyz,
    Ok, I realize I can generate the url dynamically using a
    document.write().
    But (important)
    How will I control the player programmatically?
    Can I control the media player - set/get position, stop, play, pause -
    via
    Javascript?
    thanks,
    Anil

    On Dec 26, 5:13 pm, "cwdjrxyz" <> wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > > Thank you for the pointers.
    > > Reading through video_multiformat2 source,
    > > I am having difficulty with the following:
    > > <object data="http://www.cwdjr.net/ram/realmix.rpm"
    > > type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" ....

    >
    > > The plugin is loaded from a remote url.
    > > Is there any way to load the player that is installed on the local
    > > desktop instead?
    > > When disconnected from the internet, the user should still be able to
    > > play the AV files.The rpm, with the mime type for it given, is just a standard type of

    > Real playlist file. It points to where the actual media file or files
    > are stored. This is just standard procedure, and ensures that the
    > actual media file gets sent to the real player. The Real developer site
    > has more details on Real than most people ever will wish to know,
    > including SMIL that Real will play if a SMIL file is directed to it.
    >
    > The rpm file is:http://www.cwdjr.net/ram/realmix.smil
    >
    > In this case it points to the SMIL file at the given url.
    >
    > If you want to play the smill file locally, you just feed the local
    > address on the computer where it is stored into the Real Player that
    > you have brought up. The SMIL2 file is a type of xml file, and in this
    > case is:
    >
    > <smil xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/SMIL20/Language">
    > <head>
    > <layout>
    > <root-layout width="500" height="450" backgroundColor="blue" />
    > <region id="video_region" backgroundColor="blue" z-index="1" />
    > <regPoint id="middle" left="50%" top="50%" regAlign="center" />
    > <region id="brush_region_1" width="25%" height="50%" left="0" top="0"
    > z-index="2" />
    > <region id="brush_region_2" width="25%" height="50%" left="25%" top="0"
    > z-index="2" />
    > <region id="brush_region_3" width="25%" height="50%" left="50%" top="0"
    > z-index="2" />
    > <region id="brush_region_4" width="25%" height="50%" left="75%" top="0"
    > z-index="2" />
    > <region id="brush_region_5" width="25%" height="50%" left="0" top="50%"
    > z-index="2" />
    > <region id="brush_region_6" width="25%" height="50%" left="25%"
    > top="50%" z-index="2" />
    > <region id="brush_region_7" width="25%" height="50%" left="50%"
    > top="50%" z-index="2" />
    > <region id="brush_region_8" width="25%" height="50%" left="75%"
    > top="50%" z-index="2" />
    > </layout>
    > <transition id="fromBlue" type="spiralWipe" subtype="topLeftClockwise"
    > dur="5s" />
    > <transition id="fromStar" type="starWipe" subtype="fivePoint" dur="5s"
    > />
    > <transition id="fromKeyhole" type="miscShapeWipe" subtype="keyhole"
    > dur="5s" />
    > <transition id="fromHexagon" type="hexagonWipe" subtype="vertical"
    > dur="5s" />
    > <transition id="fromBarnZigZag" type="barnZigZagWipe"
    > subtype="vertical" dur="10s" />
    > <transition id="fromFourBox" type="fourBoxWipe" subtype="cornersIn"
    > dur="10s" />
    > <transition id="fromPinWheel" type="pinWheelWipe" subtype="fourBlade"
    > dur="5s" />
    > <transition id="fromSnake" type="snakeWipe" subtype="topLeftHorizontal"
    > dur="10s" />
    > <transition id="toBlue" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    > fadeColor="blue" dur="5s" />
    > <transition id="toRed" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    > fadeColor="red" dur="5s" />
    > <transition id="toGreen" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    > fadeColor="green" dur="5s" />
    > <transition id="toYellow" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    > fadeColor="yellow" dur="5s" />
    > </head>
    > <body>
    > <seq>
    > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/roach.gif" id="image1"
    > region="video_region" dur="34s" width="256" height="256" left="0"
    > top="0" fill="hold" title="The SMIL Bug">
    > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="width" from="256"
    > to="128" begin="3s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="height" values="256;128"
    > calcMode="linear" begin="4s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="left" to="196"
    > begin="9s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="top" to="196"
    > begin="14s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > <animateMotion targetElement="image1" to="-128,-128" begin="19s"
    > dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > <set targetElement="image1" attributeName="left" to="64" begin="24s"
    > fill="freeze" />
    > <set targetElement="image1" attributeName="top" to="64" begin="24s"
    > fill="freeze" />
    > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="height" to="256"
    > begin="26s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="width" to="256"
    > begin="26s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > <animateMotion targetElement="image1" to="0,0" begin="30s" dur="4s"
    > fill="freeze" />
    > </img>
    > </seq>
    > <seq>
    > <par>
    > <audio
    > src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/souopera/Tetrazzini_CaroNome_1911.rmj"
    > title="Caro Nome RA" author="Tetrazzini" />
    > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picsnap/roscoe_foil2.jpg"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromBarnZigZag"
    > transOut="toGreen" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="240s" z-index="3" />
    > </par>
    > </seq>
    > <!-- remove comment tags from around below code to play midi. It is not
    > included here as Real may ask you to install the Crescendo plugin to
    > play the midi. -->
    > <!--
    > <seq>
    > <par>
    > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/cancan.mid" title="Cancan mid" />
    > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picani/dancer_blacktights.gif"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromStar"
    > transOut="toYellow" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="120s" />
    > </par>
    > </seq>
    > -->
    > <seq>
    > <par>
    > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/souearly/ColumbiaExpositionMarch.wma"
    > title="Columbia Exposition March WMA" author="Sousa" />
    > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picsnap/roscoe.jpg"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromFourBox"
    > transOut="toYellow" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="148s" />
    > </par>
    > </seq>
    > <seq>
    > <par>
    > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/SidewalksOfNewYork.mp3"
    > title="Sidewalks Of New York MP3" />
    > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/pic3/burlesque_house2.jpg"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromSnake"
    > transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="95s" />
    > </par>
    > </seq>
    > <seq>
    > <par>
    > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/ZarahLeander.ram" title="Zarah
    > Leander RA" />
    > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/aurora5f.jpg" region="video_region"
    > regPoint="middle" transIn="fromStar" transOut="toBlue" begin="2s"
    > fill="remove" dur="158s" />
    > </par>
    > </seq>
    > <seq>
    > <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/eyeslicesmall.ram"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="eye slice - RM"
    > transIn="fromPinWheel" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove"
    > dur="70s" />
    > </seq>
    > <seq>
    > <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/pianopullsmall.ram"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="piano pull - RM"
    > transIn="fromHexagon" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove"
    > dur="119s" />
    > </seq>
    > <seq>
    > <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/Nosferatu.rmvb"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="Nosferatu - RM"
    > transIn="fromStar" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="175s"
    > />
    > </seq>
    > <seq>
    > <par>
    > <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/caligari.rmvb"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="Cabinet Of Dr Caligari -
    > RM" begin="4s" />
    > <brush color="teal" region="brush_region_1" begin="0s" end="7s" />
    > <brush color="fuchsia" region="brush_region_2" begin="0.5s" end="9s" />
    > <brush color="olive" region="brush_region_3" begin="1s" end="5s" />
    > <brush color="red" region="brush_region_4" begin="1.5s" end="11s" />
    > <brush color="purple" region="brush_region_5" begin="2s" end="12s" />
    > <brush color="blue" region="brush_region_6" begin="2.5s" end="8s" />
    > <brush color="maroon" region="brush_region_7" begin="3s" end="10s" />
    > <brush color="navy" region="brush_region_8" begin="3.5s" end="6s" />
    > </par>
    > </seq>
    > <seq>
    > <par>
    > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/donkey.wav" title="donkey wav"
    > begin="7s" />
    > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/pic/horse_fanny3.jpg"
    > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromBlue"
    > transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="15s" />
    > </par>
    > </seq>
    > </body>
    > </smil>
    >
    > Of course you would also have to point image files to where you store
    > these on the computer also if you want to be offline when you play the
    > media.
    >
    > All of these media are designed for progressive download streaming on a
    > website. Of course you could store all of the media files in the same
    > directory as the SMIL file and use relative urls to make it more simple
    > to play offline. However, I did not care to duplicate a lot of long
    > media files that I already had stored at various locations on the
    > server.
     
    , Dec 27, 2006
    #5
  6. Guest

    forgot to add - also on non-IE or non-Windows platforms.
    -
    Anil

    On Dec 27, 7:44 am, wrote:
    > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > Ok, I realize I can generate the url dynamically using a
    > document.write().
    > But (important)
    > How will I control the player programmatically?
    > Can I control the media player - set/get position, stop, play, pause -
    > via
    > Javascript?
    > thanks,
    > Anil
    >
    > On Dec 26, 5:13 pm, "cwdjrxyz" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > wrote:
    > > > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > > > Thank you for the pointers.
    > > > Reading through video_multiformat2 source,
    > > > I am having difficulty with the following:
    > > > <object data="http://www.cwdjr.net/ram/realmix.rpm"
    > > > type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" ....

    >
    > > > The plugin is loaded from a remote url.
    > > > Is there any way to load the player that is installed on the local
    > > > desktop instead?
    > > > When disconnected from the internet, the user should still be able to
    > > > play the AV files.The rpm, with the mime type for it given, is just a standard type of

    > > Real playlist file. It points to where the actual media file or files
    > > are stored. This is just standard procedure, and ensures that the
    > > actual media file gets sent to the real player. The Real developer site
    > > has more details on Real than most people ever will wish to know,
    > > including SMIL that Real will play if a SMIL file is directed to it.

    >
    > > The rpm file is:http://www.cwdjr.net/ram/realmix.smil

    >
    > > In this case it points to the SMIL file at the given url.

    >
    > > If you want to play the smill file locally, you just feed the local
    > > address on the computer where it is stored into the Real Player that
    > > you have brought up. The SMIL2 file is a type of xml file, and in this
    > > case is:

    >
    > > <smil xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/SMIL20/Language">
    > > <head>
    > > <layout>
    > > <root-layout width="500" height="450" backgroundColor="blue" />
    > > <region id="video_region" backgroundColor="blue" z-index="1" />
    > > <regPoint id="middle" left="50%" top="50%" regAlign="center" />
    > > <region id="brush_region_1" width="25%" height="50%" left="0" top="0"
    > > z-index="2" />
    > > <region id="brush_region_2" width="25%" height="50%" left="25%" top="0"
    > > z-index="2" />
    > > <region id="brush_region_3" width="25%" height="50%" left="50%" top="0"
    > > z-index="2" />
    > > <region id="brush_region_4" width="25%" height="50%" left="75%" top="0"
    > > z-index="2" />
    > > <region id="brush_region_5" width="25%" height="50%" left="0" top="50%"
    > > z-index="2" />
    > > <region id="brush_region_6" width="25%" height="50%" left="25%"
    > > top="50%" z-index="2" />
    > > <region id="brush_region_7" width="25%" height="50%" left="50%"
    > > top="50%" z-index="2" />
    > > <region id="brush_region_8" width="25%" height="50%" left="75%"
    > > top="50%" z-index="2" />
    > > </layout>
    > > <transition id="fromBlue" type="spiralWipe" subtype="topLeftClockwise"
    > > dur="5s" />
    > > <transition id="fromStar" type="starWipe" subtype="fivePoint" dur="5s"
    > > />
    > > <transition id="fromKeyhole" type="miscShapeWipe" subtype="keyhole"
    > > dur="5s" />
    > > <transition id="fromHexagon" type="hexagonWipe" subtype="vertical"
    > > dur="5s" />
    > > <transition id="fromBarnZigZag" type="barnZigZagWipe"
    > > subtype="vertical" dur="10s" />
    > > <transition id="fromFourBox" type="fourBoxWipe" subtype="cornersIn"
    > > dur="10s" />
    > > <transition id="fromPinWheel" type="pinWheelWipe" subtype="fourBlade"
    > > dur="5s" />
    > > <transition id="fromSnake" type="snakeWipe" subtype="topLeftHorizontal"
    > > dur="10s" />
    > > <transition id="toBlue" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    > > fadeColor="blue" dur="5s" />
    > > <transition id="toRed" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    > > fadeColor="red" dur="5s" />
    > > <transition id="toGreen" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    > > fadeColor="green" dur="5s" />
    > > <transition id="toYellow" type="fade" subtype="fadeToColor"
    > > fadeColor="yellow" dur="5s" />
    > > </head>
    > > <body>
    > > <seq>
    > > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/roach.gif" id="image1"
    > > region="video_region" dur="34s" width="256" height="256" left="0"
    > > top="0" fill="hold" title="The SMIL Bug">
    > > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="width" from="256"
    > > to="128" begin="3s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="height" values="256;128"
    > > calcMode="linear" begin="4s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="left" to="196"
    > > begin="9s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="top" to="196"
    > > begin="14s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > > <animateMotion targetElement="image1" to="-128,-128" begin="19s"
    > > dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > > <set targetElement="image1" attributeName="left" to="64" begin="24s"
    > > fill="freeze" />
    > > <set targetElement="image1" attributeName="top" to="64" begin="24s"
    > > fill="freeze" />
    > > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="height" to="256"
    > > begin="26s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > > <animate targetElement="image1" attributeName="width" to="256"
    > > begin="26s" dur="4s" fill="freeze" />
    > > <animateMotion targetElement="image1" to="0,0" begin="30s" dur="4s"
    > > fill="freeze" />
    > > </img>
    > > </seq>
    > > <seq>
    > > <par>
    > > <audio
    > > src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/souopera/Tetrazzini_CaroNome_1911.rmj"
    > > title="Caro Nome RA" author="Tetrazzini" />
    > > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picsnap/roscoe_foil2.jpg"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromBarnZigZag"
    > > transOut="toGreen" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="240s" z-index="3" />
    > > </par>
    > > </seq>
    > > <!-- remove comment tags from around below code to play midi. It is not
    > > included here as Real may ask you to install the Crescendo plugin to
    > > play the midi. -->
    > > <!--
    > > <seq>
    > > <par>
    > > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/cancan.mid" title="Cancan mid" />
    > > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picani/dancer_blacktights.gif"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromStar"
    > > transOut="toYellow" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="120s" />
    > > </par>
    > > </seq>
    > > -->
    > > <seq>
    > > <par>
    > > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/souearly/ColumbiaExpositionMarch.wma"
    > > title="Columbia Exposition March WMA" author="Sousa" />
    > > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/picsnap/roscoe.jpg"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromFourBox"
    > > transOut="toYellow" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="148s" />
    > > </par>
    > > </seq>
    > > <seq>
    > > <par>
    > > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/SidewalksOfNewYork.mp3"
    > > title="Sidewalks Of New York MP3" />
    > > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/pic3/burlesque_house2.jpg"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromSnake"
    > > transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="95s" />
    > > </par>
    > > </seq>
    > > <seq>
    > > <par>
    > > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/ZarahLeander.ram" title="Zarah
    > > Leander RA" />
    > > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/aurora5f.jpg" region="video_region"
    > > regPoint="middle" transIn="fromStar" transOut="toBlue" begin="2s"
    > > fill="remove" dur="158s" />
    > > </par>
    > > </seq>
    > > <seq>
    > > <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/eyeslicesmall.ram"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="eye slice - RM"
    > > transIn="fromPinWheel" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove"
    > > dur="70s" />
    > > </seq>
    > > <seq>
    > > <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/pianopullsmall.ram"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="piano pull - RM"
    > > transIn="fromHexagon" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove"
    > > dur="119s" />
    > > </seq>
    > > <seq>
    > > <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/Nosferatu.rmvb"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="Nosferatu - RM"
    > > transIn="fromStar" transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="175s"
    > > />
    > > </seq>
    > > <seq>
    > > <par>
    > > <video src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/caligari.rmvb"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" title="Cabinet Of Dr Caligari -
    > > RM" begin="4s" />
    > > <brush color="teal" region="brush_region_1" begin="0s" end="7s" />
    > > <brush color="fuchsia" region="brush_region_2" begin="0.5s" end="9s" />
    > > <brush color="olive" region="brush_region_3" begin="1s" end="5s" />
    > > <brush color="red" region="brush_region_4" begin="1.5s" end="11s" />
    > > <brush color="purple" region="brush_region_5" begin="2s" end="12s" />
    > > <brush color="blue" region="brush_region_6" begin="2.5s" end="8s" />
    > > <brush color="maroon" region="brush_region_7" begin="3s" end="10s" />
    > > <brush color="navy" region="brush_region_8" begin="3.5s" end="6s" />
    > > </par>
    > > </seq>
    > > <seq>
    > > <par>
    > > <audio src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/ram/donkey.wav" title="donkey wav"
    > > begin="7s" />
    > > <img src="chttp://www.cwdjr.net/pic/horse_fanny3.jpg"
    > > region="video_region" regPoint="middle" transIn="fromBlue"
    > > transOut="toRed" begin="2s" fill="remove" dur="15s" />
    > > </par>
    > > </seq>
    > > </body>
    > > </smil>

    >
    > > Of course you would also have to point image files to where you store
    > > these on the computer also if you want to be offline when you play the
    > > media.

    >
    > > All of these media are designed for progressive download streaming on a
    > > website. Of course you could store all of the media files in the same
    > > directory as the SMIL file and use relative urls to make it more simple
    > > to play offline. However, I did not care to duplicate a lot of long
    > > media files that I already had stored at various locations on the
    > > server.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
     
    , Dec 27, 2006
    #6
  7. cwdjrxyz Guest

    wrote:
    > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > Ok, I realize I can generate the url dynamically using a
    > document.write().
    > But (important)
    > How will I control the player programmatically?
    > Can I control the media player - set/get position, stop, play, pause -
    > via
    > Javascript?


    If you remain only on IE browsers with ActiveX on, Microsoft has some
    information on their developer site for controlling the WMP directly
    using scripts. They may use Jscript and sometimes VB script(which does
    not work on many other browsers). Microsoft does an extremely poor job
    of showing how to use their player in general, and scripting to control
    it, for non-IE browsers, and they use such outlandish things as an
    embed tag that is not, and never has been, an official W3C tag. A few
    years ago I used some Microsoft scripts to detect the presence and
    version of the WMP. This failed without warning on the upgrade to the
    WMP10. I had to change many web pages. Since then I avoid Microsoft
    scripts for controlling their player like the plague. I see no need to
    do so. I do not think media should usually be autostarted - that annoys
    many people. If you use the player object that I use, it generates the
    payer control panel with controls to stop, start, pause, etc. If you
    are determined to have the player autostart on audio and play until
    finished without user control, you can reduce the player size to about
    1 x 1 pixel so that it does not show and set the autostart parameter to
    1 instead of 0 to autostart. Then if you are using a mixture of WMP,
    Real, QT, etc players, the Microsoft player scripting is not going to
    control these except in a few special cases when one has added an
    ActiveX plugin for the WMP to a Mozilla family browser. Netscape at one
    time had a script, that was huge, to detect if the ActiveX plugin was
    added to their browser, and to control playing on the Netscape browser.
    Unfortunately it is extremely difficult to detect what browser you have
    using script, and subject to failure at any time, because many browsers
    can report themselves as other browsers when you use script detection.
    This is done to prevent being locked out of a page because the
    developer of the page only considers IE ,and perhaps Netscape, and
    locks out everything else when the Browser such as Opera or Firefox may
    indeed be able to handle the page with few or no problems.
     
    cwdjrxyz, Dec 27, 2006
    #7
  8. Guest

    Hello,
    I am controlling the default media player from an application - not
    directly by the user. Think of it as an application for user training.
    thanks,
    Anil

    On Dec 27, 11:11 am, "cwdjrxyz" <> wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > > Ok, I realize I can generate the url dynamically using a
    > > document.write().
    > > But (important)
    > > How will I control the player programmatically?
    > > Can I control the media player - set/get position, stop, play, pause -
    > > via
    > > Javascript?If you remain only on IE browsers with ActiveX on, Microsoft has some

    > information on their developer site for controlling the WMP directly
    > using scripts. They may use Jscript and sometimes VB script(which does
    > not work on many other browsers). Microsoft does an extremely poor job
    > of showing how to use their player in general, and scripting to control
    > it, for non-IE browsers, and they use such outlandish things as an
    > embed tag that is not, and never has been, an official W3C tag. A few
    > years ago I used some Microsoft scripts to detect the presence and
    > version of the WMP. This failed without warning on the upgrade to the
    > WMP10. I had to change many web pages. Since then I avoid Microsoft
    > scripts for controlling their player like the plague. I see no need to
    > do so. I do not think media should usually be autostarted - that annoys
    > many people. If you use the player object that I use, it generates the
    > payer control panel with controls to stop, start, pause, etc. If you
    > are determined to have the player autostart on audio and play until
    > finished without user control, you can reduce the player size to about
    > 1 x 1 pixel so that it does not show and set the autostart parameter to
    > 1 instead of 0 to autostart. Then if you are using a mixture of WMP,
    > Real, QT, etc players, the Microsoft player scripting is not going to
    > control these except in a few special cases when one has added an
    > ActiveX plugin for the WMP to a Mozilla family browser. Netscape at one
    > time had a script, that was huge, to detect if the ActiveX plugin was
    > added to their browser, and to control playing on the Netscape browser.
    > Unfortunately it is extremely difficult to detect what browser you have
    > using script, and subject to failure at any time, because many browsers
    > can report themselves as other browsers when you use script detection.
    > This is done to prevent being locked out of a page because the
    > developer of the page only considers IE ,and perhaps Netscape, and
    > locks out everything else when the Browser such as Opera or Firefox may
    > indeed be able to handle the page with few or no problems.
     
    , Dec 27, 2006
    #8
  9. Guest

    Hello cwdjrxyz,
    Your post is not clear to me.
    As I understand it, please correct me, without ActiveX, one cannot
    control the Windows Media Player from JavaScript?
    thanks,
    Anil
    P.S. I found these links - are they different from your post?
    http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/Conceptual/QTScripting_JavaScript/index.html
    http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206213#CheckWMP


    On Dec 27, 11:11 am, "cwdjrxyz" <> wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > > Ok, I realize I can generate the url dynamically using a
    > > document.write().
    > > But (important)
    > > How will I control the player programmatically?
    > > Can I control the media player - set/get position, stop, play, pause -
    > > via
    > > Javascript?If you remain only on IE browsers with ActiveX on, Microsoft has some

    > information on their developer site for controlling the WMP directly
    > using scripts. They may use Jscript and sometimes VB script(which does
    > not work on many other browsers). Microsoft does an extremely poor job
    > of showing how to use their player in general, and scripting to control
    > it, for non-IE browsers, and they use such outlandish things as an
    > embed tag that is not, and never has been, an official W3C tag. A few
    > years ago I used some Microsoft scripts to detect the presence and
    > version of the WMP. This failed without warning on the upgrade to the
    > WMP10. I had to change many web pages. Since then I avoid Microsoft
    > scripts for controlling their player like the plague. I see no need to
    > do so. I do not think media should usually be autostarted - that annoys
    > many people. If you use the player object that I use, it generates the
    > payer control panel with controls to stop, start, pause, etc. If you
    > are determined to have the player autostart on audio and play until
    > finished without user control, you can reduce the player size to about
    > 1 x 1 pixel so that it does not show and set the autostart parameter to
    > 1 instead of 0 to autostart. Then if you are using a mixture of WMP,
    > Real, QT, etc players, the Microsoft player scripting is not going to
    > control these except in a few special cases when one has added an
    > ActiveX plugin for the WMP to a Mozilla family browser. Netscape at one
    > time had a script, that was huge, to detect if the ActiveX plugin was
    > added to their browser, and to control playing on the Netscape browser.
    > Unfortunately it is extremely difficult to detect what browser you have
    > using script, and subject to failure at any time, because many browsers
    > can report themselves as other browsers when you use script detection.
    > This is done to prevent being locked out of a page because the
    > developer of the page only considers IE ,and perhaps Netscape, and
    > locks out everything else when the Browser such as Opera or Firefox may
    > indeed be able to handle the page with few or no problems.
     
    , Dec 30, 2006
    #9
  10. Guest

    Quicktime recommends using *both* EMBED and OBJECT tags.
    However you are using only OBJECT?
    -
    Anil

    On Dec 30, 10:48 am, wrote:
    > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > Your post is not clear to me.
    > As I understand it, please correct me, without ActiveX, one cannot
    > control the Windows Media Player from JavaScript?
    > thanks,
    > Anil
    > P.S. I found these links - are they different from your post?http://developer.apple.com/document...zillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206213#CheckWMP
    >
    > On Dec 27, 11:11 am, "cwdjrxyz" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > wrote:
    > > > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > > > Ok, I realize I can generate the url dynamically using a
    > > > document.write().
    > > > But (important)
    > > > How will I control the player programmatically?
    > > > Can I control the media player - set/get position, stop, play, pause -
    > > > via
    > > > Javascript?If you remain only on IE browsers with ActiveX on, Microsoft has some

    > > information on their developer site for controlling the WMP directly
    > > using scripts. They may use Jscript and sometimes VB script(which does
    > > not work on many other browsers). Microsoft does an extremely poor job
    > > of showing how to use their player in general, and scripting to control
    > > it, for non-IE browsers, and they use such outlandish things as an
    > > embed tag that is not, and never has been, an official W3C tag. A few
    > > years ago I used some Microsoft scripts to detect the presence and
    > > version of the WMP. This failed without warning on the upgrade to the
    > > WMP10. I had to change many web pages. Since then I avoid Microsoft
    > > scripts for controlling their player like the plague. I see no need to
    > > do so. I do not think media should usually be autostarted - that annoys
    > > many people. If you use the player object that I use, it generates the
    > > payer control panel with controls to stop, start, pause, etc. If you
    > > are determined to have the player autostart on audio and play until
    > > finished without user control, you can reduce the player size to about
    > > 1 x 1 pixel so that it does not show and set the autostart parameter to
    > > 1 instead of 0 to autostart. Then if you are using a mixture of WMP,
    > > Real, QT, etc players, the Microsoft player scripting is not going to
    > > control these except in a few special cases when one has added an
    > > ActiveX plugin for the WMP to a Mozilla family browser. Netscape at one
    > > time had a script, that was huge, to detect if the ActiveX plugin was
    > > added to their browser, and to control playing on the Netscape browser.
    > > Unfortunately it is extremely difficult to detect what browser you have
    > > using script, and subject to failure at any time, because many browsers
    > > can report themselves as other browsers when you use script detection.
    > > This is done to prevent being locked out of a page because the
    > > developer of the page only considers IE ,and perhaps Netscape, and
    > > locks out everything else when the Browser such as Opera or Firefox may
    > > indeed be able to handle the page with few or no problems.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
     
    , Dec 30, 2006
    #10
  11. cwdjrxyz Guest

    wrote:
    > Quicktime recommends using *both* EMBED and OBJECT tags.
    > However you are using only OBJECT?


    There is no such thing as an embed tag It. has never been part of
    official W3C html. It is a relic from the browser war era. QT is
    recommending using an ActiveX object, not an ordinary object that does
    not depend on ActiveX , as I and many others now use for certain media.
    A properly written ActiveX object will validate. Unfortunately many non
    IE browsers do not support it, and some turn ActiveX off for security
    reasons.

    > Anil
    >
    > On Dec 30, 10:48 am, wrote:
    > > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > > Your post is not clear to me.
    > > As I understand it, please correct me, without ActiveX, one cannot
    > > control the Windows Media Player from JavaScript?
    > > thanks,
    > > Anil
    > > P.S. I found these links - are they different from your post?http://developer.apple.com/document...zillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206213#CheckWMP


    Quicktime is using invalid code for non-IE browsers that often works.
    So do several other old time firms. Even they know there is a problem,
    as evidenced by the following on the QT site.

    __________________________________________________________________________

    The Mozilla Foundation, in collaboration with Apple, Adobe, Macromedia,
    Opera, and Sun Microsystems, are currently working together to define a
    new NPAPI interface to allow greater interactivity between
    standards-based browsers and plug-ins. Check the Apple website for
    updates concerning QuickTime and NPAPI-compliant browsers.

    __________________________________________________________________________

    Just to show exactly what I mean, I took one of the QT site codes to
    the official W3C validator and validated it. If you want to use such
    junk code, be my guest. However I am not going to aid anyone in writing
    such trash. As you will see below, the code is full of errors as given
    in great detail by the validator. QT is not alone. I think some of the
    old-time software companies need to send their programmers back to
    school to learn modern code standards and how to adjust their codes to
    be standards compliant.
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!

    Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML
    parser.

    1. Error Line 10, column 29: required attribute "TYPE" not specified
    ..

    <script language="JavaScript">

    The attribute given above is required for an element that you've
    used, but you have omitted it. For instance, in most HTML and XHTML
    document types the "type" attribute is required on the "script" element
    and the "alt" attribute is required for the "img" element.

    Typical values for type are type="text/css" for <style> and
    type="text/javascript" for <script>.

    ✉
    2. Error Line 32, column 12: there is no attribute "ALIGN" .

    <BODY align=center>

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    3. Error Line 38, column 14: there is no attribute "HEIGHT" .

    <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    4. Error Line 38, column 24: there is no attribute "WIDTH" .

    <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    5. Error Line 40, column 4: there is no attribute "SRC" .

    SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    6. Error Line 40, column 22: there is no attribute "TYPE" .

    SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    7. Error Line 42, column 11: there is no attribute "CONTROLLER" .

    CONTROLLER="false"

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    8. Error Line 44, column 5: there is no attribute "HREF" .

    HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    9. Error Line 44, column 43: element "EMBED" undefined .

    HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />

    You have used the element named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not define an element of that name.
    This error is often caused by:
    * incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
    that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get
    the "<frameset>" element),
    * by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>"
    or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
    desired effect instead).
    * by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and
    elements must be all lower-case.

    ✉
    10. Error Line 64, column 52: element "EMBED" undefined .

    HREF="javascript: alert('You clicked the poster!')" />

    You have used the element named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not define an element of that name.
    This error is often caused by:
    * incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
    that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get
    the "<frameset>" element),
    * by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>"
    or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
    desired effect instead).
    * by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and
    elements must be all lower-case.

    ✉

    Source Listing

    Below is the source input I used for this validation:

    1. <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
    2. <HTML>
    3.
    4. <HEAD>
    5.
    6. <TITLE>Calling JavaScript from QuickTime</TITLE>
    7.
    8.
    9.
    10. <script language="JavaScript">
    11.
    12. <!--
    13.
    14. function openQTwin(url) {
    15.
    16. qtwin = window.open(url,"moviewindow",'toolbar=0,location=0,
    directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,
    width=360,height=260');
    17.
    18. qtwin.focus();
    19.
    20. }
    21.
    22. // -->
    23.
    24. </script>
    25.
    26.
    27.
    28. </HEAD>
    29.
    30.
    31.
    32. <BODY align=center>
    33.
    34.
    35.
    36. <P>Calling a JavaScript function: <BR>
    37.
    38. <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    39.
    40. SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    41.
    42. CONTROLLER="false"
    43.
    44. HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />
    45.
    46.
    47.
    48. <P>
    49.
    50. Click the poster above to play a MyMovie in a new window.
    51.
    52. </P>
    53.
    54.
    55.
    56. <P>Passing in-line JavaScript commands: <BR>
    57.
    58. <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    59.
    60. SRC="Poster2.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    61.
    62. CONTROLLER="false"
    63.
    64. HREF="javascript: alert('You clicked the poster!')" />
    65.
    66.
    67.
    68. <P>
    69.
    70. Click the poster above to show an alert box.
    71.
    72. </P>
    73.
    74.
    75.
    76. </BODY>
    77.
    78. </HTML>



    The Mozilla Foundation, in collaboration with Apple, Adobe, Macromedia,
    Opera, and Sun Microsystems, are currently working together to define a
    new NPAPI interface to allow greater interactivity between
    standards-based browsers and plug-ins. Check the Apple website for
    updates concerning QuickTime and NPAPI-compliant browsers.


    This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!

    Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML
    parser.

    1. Error Line 10, column 29: required attribute "TYPE" not specified
    ..

    <script language="JavaScript">

    The attribute given above is required for an element that you've
    used, but you have omitted it. For instance, in most HTML and XHTML
    document types the "type" attribute is required on the "script" element
    and the "alt" attribute is required for the "img" element.

    Typical values for type are type="text/css" for <style> and
    type="text/javascript" for <script>.

    ✉
    2. Error Line 32, column 12: there is no attribute "ALIGN" .

    <BODY align=center>

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    3. Error Line 38, column 14: there is no attribute "HEIGHT" .

    <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    4. Error Line 38, column 24: there is no attribute "WIDTH" .

    <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    5. Error Line 40, column 4: there is no attribute "SRC" .

    SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    6. Error Line 40, column 22: there is no attribute "TYPE" .

    SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    7. Error Line 42, column 11: there is no attribute "CONTROLLER" .

    CONTROLLER="false"

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    8. Error Line 44, column 5: there is no attribute "HREF" .

    HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />

    You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).

    This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    message for further information.

    How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    valid flash.

    ✉
    9. Error Line 44, column 43: element "EMBED" undefined .

    HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />

    You have used the element named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not define an element of that name.
    This error is often caused by:
    * incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
    that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get
    the "<frameset>" element),
    * by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>"
    or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
    desired effect instead).
    * by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and
    elements must be all lower-case.

    ✉
    10. Error Line 64, column 52: element "EMBED" undefined .

    HREF="javascript: alert('You clicked the poster!')" />

    You have used the element named above in your document, but the
    document type you are using does not define an element of that name.
    This error is often caused by:
    * incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
    that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get
    the "<frameset>" element),
    * by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>"
    or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
    desired effect instead).
    * by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and
    elements must be all lower-case.

    ✉

    Source Listing

    Below is the source input I used for this validation:

    1. <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
    2. <HTML>
    3.
    4. <HEAD>
    5.
    6. <TITLE>Calling JavaScript from QuickTime</TITLE>
    7.
    8.
    9.
    10. <script language="JavaScript">
    11.
    12. <!--
    13.
    14. function openQTwin(url) {
    15.
    16. qtwin = window.open(url,"moviewindow",'toolbar=0,location=0,
    directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,
    width=360,height=260');
    17.
    18. qtwin.focus();
    19.
    20. }
    21.
    22. // -->
    23.
    24. </script>
    25.
    26.
    27.
    28. </HEAD>
    29.
    30.
    31.
    32. <BODY align=center>
    33.
    34.
    35.
    36. <P>Calling a JavaScript function: <BR>
    37.
    38. <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    39.
    40. SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    41.
    42. CONTROLLER="false"
    43.
    44. HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />
    45.
    46.
    47.
    48. <P>
    49.
    50. Click the poster above to play a MyMovie in a new window.
    51.
    52. </P>
    53.
    54.
    55.
    56. <P>Passing in-line JavaScript commands: <BR>
    57.
    58. <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    59.
    60. SRC="Poster2.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    61.
    62. CONTROLLER="false"
    63.
    64. HREF="javascript: alert('You clicked the poster!')" />
    65.
    66.
    67.
    68. <P>
    69.
    70. Click the poster above to show an alert box.
    71.
    72. </P>
    73.
    74.
    75.
    76. </BODY>
    77.
    78. </HTML>
     
    cwdjrxyz, Dec 30, 2006
    #11
  12. Anil Guest

    ok, I am not interested in religious wars when it concerns technology.
    Anything that works.
    1) Looking at your examples, video_multi_ BR3/Format, I dont see where
    you control the player from Javascript. Can an "ordinary object" be
    controlled via Javascript?

    2) I am wondering how to generate the html dynamically.
    Perhaps I need to use Iframe with document.write() to dynamically
    generate the html containing the
    media player depending on whether QT/WMP/Real is selected?
    Will it work?
    thanks,
    Anil


    On Dec 30, 4:11 pm, "cwdjrxyz" <> wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > Quicktime recommends using *both* EMBED and OBJECT tags.
    > > However you are using only OBJECT?There is no such thing as an embed tag It. has never been part of

    > official W3C html. It is a relic from the browser war era. QT is
    > recommending using an ActiveX object, not an ordinary object that does
    > not depend on ActiveX , as I and many others now use for certain media.
    > A properly written ActiveX object will validate. Unfortunately many non
    > IE browsers do not support it, and some turn ActiveX off for security
    > reasons.
    >
    > > Anil

    >
    > > On Dec 30, 10:48 am, wrote:
    > > > Hello cwdjrxyz,
    > > > Your post is not clear to me.
    > > > As I understand it, please correct me, without ActiveX, one cannot
    > > > control the Windows Media Player from JavaScript?
    > > > thanks,
    > > > Anil
    > > > P.S. I found these links - are they different from your post?http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/Conceptual/QTScrip...Quicktime is using invalid code for non-IE browsers that often works.

    > So do  several other old time firms. Even they know there is a problem,
    > as evidenced by the following on the QT site.
    >
    > __________________________________________________________________________
    >
    > The Mozilla Foundation, in collaboration with Apple, Adobe, Macromedia,
    > Opera, and Sun Microsystems, are currently working together to define a
    > new NPAPI interface to allow greater interactivity between
    > standards-based browsers and plug-ins. Check the Apple website for
    > updates concerning QuickTime and NPAPI-compliant browsers.
    >
    > __________________________________________________________________________
    >
    > Just to show exactly what I mean, I took one of the QT site codes to
    > the official W3C validator and validated it. If you want to use such
    > junk code, be my guest. However I am not going to aid anyone in writing
    > such trash. As you will see below, the code is full of errors as given
    > in great detail by the validator. QT is not alone. I think some of the
    > old-time software companies need to send their programmers back to
    > school to learn modern code standards and how to adjust their codes to
    > be standards compliant.
    > ___________________________________________________________________________
    >
    > This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
    >
    > Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML
    > parser.
    >
    >    1. Error Line 10, column 29: required attribute "TYPE" not specified
    > .
    >
    >       <script language="JavaScript">
    >
    >       The attribute given above is required for an elementthat you've
    > used, but you have omitted it. For instance, in most HTML and XHTML
    > document types the "type" attribute is required on the "script" element
    > and the "alt" attribute is required for the "img" element.
    >
    >       Typical values for type are type="text/css" for <style> and
    > type="text/javascript" for <script>.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    2. Error Line 32, column 12: there is no attribute "ALIGN" .
    >
    >       <BODY align=center>
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    3. Error Line 38, column 14: there is no attribute "HEIGHT" .
    >
    >       <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    4. Error Line 38, column 24: there is no attribute "WIDTH" .
    >
    >       <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    5. Error Line 40, column 4: there is no attribute "SRC" .
    >
    >       SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    6. Error Line 40, column 22: there is no attribute "TYPE" .
    >
    >       SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    7. Error Line 42, column 11: there is no attribute "CONTROLLER" .
    >
    >       CONTROLLER="false"
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    8. Error Line 44, column 5: there is no attribute "HREF" .
    >
    >       HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    9. Error Line 44, column 43: element "EMBED" undefined .
    >
    >       HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />
    >
    >       You have used the element named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not define an element of that name.
    > This error is often caused by:
    >           * incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
    > that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get
    > the "<frameset>" element),
    >           * by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>"
    > or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
    > desired effect instead).
    >           * by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and
    > elements must be all lower-case.
    >
    >       ✉
    >   10. Error Line 64, column 52: element "EMBED" undefined .
    >
    >       HREF="javascript: alert('You clicked the poster!')" />
    >
    >       You have used the element named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not define an element of that name.
    > This error is often caused by:
    >           * incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
    > that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get
    > the "<frameset>" element),
    >           * by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>"
    > or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
    > desired effect instead).
    >           * by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and
    > elements must be all lower-case.
    >
    >       ✉
    >
    > Source Listing
    >
    > Below is the source input I used for this validation:
    >
    >    1. <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
    > "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
    >    2. <HTML>
    >    3.
    >    4. <HEAD>
    >    5.
    >    6. <TITLE>Calling JavaScript from QuickTime</TITLE>
    >    7.
    >    8.
    >    9.
    >   10. <script language="JavaScript">
    >   11.
    >   12. <!--
    >   13.
    >   14. function openQTwin(url) {
    >   15.
    >   16. qtwin = window.open(url,"moviewindow",'toolbar=0,location=0,
    > directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,
    > width=360,height=260');
    >   17.
    >   18. qtwin.focus();
    >   19.
    >   20. }
    >   21.
    >   22. // -->
    >   23.
    >   24. </script>
    >   25.
    >   26.
    >   27.
    >   28. </HEAD>
    >   29.
    >   30.
    >   31.
    >   32. <BODY align=center>
    >   33.
    >   34.
    >   35.
    >   36. <P>Calling a JavaScript function: <BR>
    >   37.
    >   38. <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    >   39.
    >   40. SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    >   41.
    >   42. CONTROLLER="false"
    >   43.
    >   44. HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />
    >   45.
    >   46.
    >   47.
    >   48. <P>
    >   49.
    >   50. Click the poster above to play a MyMovie in a new window.
    >   51.
    >   52. </P>
    >   53.
    >   54.
    >   55.
    >   56. <P>Passing in-line JavaScript commands: <BR>
    >   57.
    >   58. <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    >   59.
    >   60. SRC="Poster2.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    >   61.
    >   62. CONTROLLER="false"
    >   63.
    >   64. HREF="javascript: alert('You clicked the poster!')" />
    >   65.
    >   66.
    >   67.
    >   68. <P>
    >   69.
    >   70. Click the poster above to show an alert box.
    >   71.
    >   72. </P>
    >   73.
    >   74.
    >   75.
    >   76. </BODY>
    >   77.
    >   78. </HTML>
    >
    > The Mozilla Foundation, in collaboration with Apple, Adobe, Macromedia,
    > Opera, and Sun Microsystems, are currently working together to define a
    > new NPAPI interface to allow greater interactivity between
    > standards-based browsers and plug-ins. Check the Apple website for
    > updates concerning QuickTime and NPAPI-compliant browsers.
    >
    > This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
    >
    > Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML
    > parser.
    >
    >    1. Error Line 10, column 29: required attribute "TYPE" not specified
    > .
    >
    >       <script language="JavaScript">
    >
    >       The attribute given above is required for an elementthat you've
    > used, but you have omitted it. For instance, in most HTML and XHTML
    > document types the "type" attribute is required on the "script" element
    > and the "alt" attribute is required for the "img" element.
    >
    >       Typical values for type are type="text/css" for <style> and
    > type="text/javascript" for <script>.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    2. Error Line 32, column 12: there is no attribute "ALIGN" .
    >
    >       <BODY align=center>
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    3. Error Line 38, column 14: there is no attribute "HEIGHT" .
    >
    >       <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    4. Error Line 38, column 24: there is no attribute "WIDTH" .
    >
    >       <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    5. Error Line 40, column 4: there is no attribute "SRC" .
    >
    >       SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    6. Error Line 40, column 22: there is no attribute "TYPE" .
    >
    >       SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    7. Error Line 42, column 11: there is no attribute "CONTROLLER" .
    >
    >       CONTROLLER="false"
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    8. Error Line 44, column 5: there is no attribute "HREF" .
    >
    >       HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />
    >
    >       You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not support that attribute for this
    > element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
    > document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the
    > "Transitional" document type to get the "target" attribute), or by
    > using vendor proprietary extensions such as "marginheight" (this is
    > usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
    >
    >       This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
    > in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will have
    > no supported attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error
    > message for further information.
    >
    >       How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
    > attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they
    > are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of
    > this attribute. If you received this error when using the <embed>
    > element to incorporate flash media in a Web page, see the FAQ item on
    > valid flash.
    >
    >       ✉
    >    9. Error Line 44, column 43: element "EMBED" undefined .
    >
    >       HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />
    >
    >       You have used the element named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not define an element of that name.
    > This error is often caused by:
    >           * incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
    > that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get
    > the "<frameset>" element),
    >           * by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>"
    > or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
    > desired effect instead).
    >           * by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and
    > elements must be all lower-case.
    >
    >       ✉
    >   10. Error Line 64, column 52: element "EMBED" undefined .
    >
    >       HREF="javascript: alert('You clicked the poster!')" />
    >
    >       You have used the element named above in your document, but the
    > document type you are using does not define an element of that name.
    > This error is often caused by:
    >           * incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document
    > that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get
    > the "<frameset>" element),
    >           * by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>"
    > or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
    > desired effect instead).
    >           * by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and
    > elements must be all lower-case.
    >
    >       ✉
    >
    > Source Listing
    >
    > Below is the source input I used for this validation:
    >
    >    1. <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
    > "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
    >    2. <HTML>
    >    3.
    >    4. <HEAD>
    >    5.
    >    6. <TITLE>Calling JavaScript from QuickTime</TITLE>
    >    7.
    >    8.
    >    9.
    >   10. <script language="JavaScript">
    >   11.
    >   12. <!--
    >   13.
    >   14. function openQTwin(url) {
    >   15.
    >   16. qtwin = window.open(url,"moviewindow",'toolbar=0,location=0,
    > directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,
    > width=360,height=260');
    >   17.
    >   18. qtwin.focus();
    >   19.
    >   20. }
    >   21.
    >   22. // -->
    >   23.
    >   24. </script>
    >   25.
    >   26.
    >   27.
    >   28. </HEAD>
    >   29.
    >   30.
    >   31.
    >   32. <BODY align=center>
    >   33.
    >   34.
    >   35.
    >   36. <P>Calling a JavaScript function: <BR>
    >   37.
    >   38. <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    >   39.
    >   40. SRC="Poster.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    >   41.
    >   42. CONTROLLER="false"
    >   43.
    >   44. HREF="javascript:eek:penQTwin('MyMovie.mov')" />
    >   45.
    >   46.
    >   47.
    >   48. <P>
    >   49.
    >   50. Click the poster above to play a MyMovie in a new window.
    >   51.
    >   52. </P>
    >   53.
    >   54.
    >   55.
    >   56. <P>Passing in-line JavaScript commands: <BR>
    >   57.
    >   58. <EMBED HEIGHT=320 WIDTH=240
    >   59.
    >   60. SRC="Poster2.mov" TYPE="video/quicktime"
    >   61.
    >   62. CONTROLLER="false"
    >   63.
    >   64. HREF="javascript: alert('You clicked the poster!')" />
    >   65.
    >   66.
    >   67.
    >   68. <P>
    >   69.
    >   70. Click the poster above to show an alert box.
    >   71.
    >   72. </P>
    >   73.
    >   74.
    >   75.
    >   76. </BODY>
    >   77.
    >   78. </HTML>
     
    Anil, Jan 1, 2007
    #12
  13. cwdjrxyz Guest

    Anil wrote:
    > ok, I am not interested in religious wars when it concerns technology.
    > Anything that works.

    No hard feelings, but I will not help anyone to write invalid code in
    the "anything that works" style. You may be able to find some who will
    at various groups associated with the various media players. I feel I
    have wasted my time on this thread, and I see no reason to respond
    more. Good luck in finding what you want.
     
    cwdjrxyz, Jan 1, 2007
    #13
  14. Anil Guest

    I think you have misunderstood.
    Can you help me write *valid* code that works?

    On Dec 31, 9:05 pm, "cwdjrxyz" <> wrote:
    > Anil wrote:
    > > ok, I am not interested in religious wars when it concerns technology.
    > > Anything that works. No hard feelings, but I will not help anyone to write invalid code in

    > the "anything that works" style. You may be able to find some who will
    > at various groups associated with the various media players. I feel I
    > have wasted my time on this thread, and I see no reason to respond
    > more. Good luck in finding what you want.
     
    Anil, Jan 1, 2007
    #14
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