Testing on mac

[Helpful person]

I have tested my web site to the best of my ability on a PC with the
latest browsers (and IE7). Can someone please look at it with a Mac
and let me know if it looks OK? (at least not broken.)

Thanks,

www.richardfisher.com

 

[Synbot]

I have tested my web site to the best of my ability on a PC with the
latest browsers (and IE7). Can someone please look at it with a Mac
and let me know if it looks OK? (at least not broken.)

Thanks,

www.richardfisher.com

http://browsershots.org/

 

[Helpful person]

http://browsershots.org/

Thanks but that doesn't show me what happens when the viewport size,
zoom or text size changes.

www.richardfisher.com

 

[Helpful person]

Thanks but that doesn't show me what happens when the viewport size,
zoom or text size changes.

www.richardfisher.com

It also shows a wait time of 27 minutes with an expiration time of 25
minutes!

www.richardfisher.com

 

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

I have tested my web site to the best of my ability on a PC with the
latest browsers (and IE7). Can someone please look at it with a Mac
and let me know if it looks OK? (at least not broken.)

Thanks,

www.richardfisher.com

I've checked it with Firefox and iCab, and it looks fine in both.

If you make the window too narrow the "click" menu eventually
disappears, but only if the window is narrower than anyone is likely to
make it. If you make the window very wide it stops using the extra
space when it becomes wider than anyone is likely to make it.

Changing the font size (up or down) has the results you'd expect.

It degrades gracefully if you disable the style sheets.

iCab says the HTML and CSS are valid. (I haven't checked with a
validator, but presumably you've done that yourself.)

All in all I'd say there are no problems.

 

[SAZ]

It also shows a wait time of 27 minutes with an expiration time of 25
minutes!

www.richardfisher.com

You're asking alot of others. Even if they report problems, you'll be
trying to fix them "blind" and relying on others again. The cycle could
go on forever.

Do what I did - I just bought 4 year old iMac for $150 from a friend
that was upgrading. He was happy to be rid of it so it wouldn't collect
dust in his basement. You can also try ebay or craigslist.

 

[Helpful person]

I've checked it with Firefox and iCab, and it looks fine in both.

If you make the window too narrow the "click" menu eventually
disappears, but only if the window is narrower than anyone is likely to
make it. If you make the window very wide it stops using the extra
space when it becomes wider than anyone is likely to make it.

Changing the font size (up or down) has the results you'd expect.

It degrades gracefully if you disable the style sheets.

iCab says the HTML and CSS are valid. (I haven't checked with a
validator, but presumably you've done that yourself.)

All in all I'd say there are no problems.

Thanks very much. By the way, the only reason for the "click" links
is to stuff the page with keywords for search engines. Although it is
challenging to make the page look acceptable it seems to help. (I
also make the web link my signature to increase links for search
engines. It might help, although it cannot hurt.)

www.richardfisher.com

 

[Helpful person]

Do what I did - I just bought 4 year old iMac for $150 from a friend
that was upgrading.  He was happy to be rid of it so it wouldn't collect
dust in his basement.  You can also try ebay or craigslist.- Hide quoted text -

Good idea, thanks for the suggestion.

www.richardfisher.com

 

[cwdjrxyz]

I have tested my web site to the best of my ability on a PC with the
latest browsers (and IE7).  Can someone please look at it with a Mac
and let me know if it looks OK? (at least not broken.)

You might like to download Safari for Windows to your PC, free from
Apple. While it might be a bit different from Safari for Apple, it is
about as close as you likely will get on a PC. Screen shots are useful
for static pages, but they leave a lot to be desired for pages with
dynamic content - for example if you have to submit a form to the
server and the server uses script such as php to change the page
depending on what you submitted. Buying a cheap used Apple computer as
suggested by others also likely is a good option if you need to check
how Apple responds on many pages..

 

[Helpful person]

You might like to download Safari for Windows to your PC, free from
Apple. While it might be a bit different from Safari for Apple, it is
about as close as you likely will get on a PC. Screen shots are useful
for static pages, but they leave a lot to be desired for pages with
dynamic content - for example if you have to submit a form to the
server and the server uses script such as php to change the page
depending on what you submitted. Buying a cheap used Apple computer as
suggested by others also likely is a good option if you need to check
how Apple responds on many pages..

I have downloaded safari for windows and my web site looks OK.
However, I suspect there are quite a few differences using a Mac. I
agree that buying an old Mac is probably the best idea.

www.richardfisher.com

 

[SAZ]

I have downloaded safari for windows and my web site looks OK.
However, I suspect there are quite a few differences using a Mac. I
agree that buying an old Mac is probably the best idea.

www.richardfisher.com

There are differences when using Safari on a Mac. In my mind, it's well
worth the $150 for a used machine.

 

[Neredbojias]

I have downloaded safari for windows and my web site looks OK.
However, I suspect there are quite a few differences using a Mac. I
agree that buying an old Mac is probably the best idea.

....if one has the space.

Btw, Safari for PC works surprisingly well IMHO and is quick, too.

 

[dorayme]

I just bought 4 year old iMac for $150 from a friend
that was upgrading.

It is good to help a friend out. For just looking at your own sites (on
a home server even), leave your friends in the lurch and go for an eight
year old for close to $0.

 

[dorayme]

By the way, the only reason for the "click" links
is to stuff the page with keywords for search engines. Although it is
challenging to make the page look acceptable it seems to help.

I was wondering about those. With a motivation like this, perhaps a much
more compact design would be the way to go with drop down menus, they
are, after all, just one level (make sure the top level is a link
itself).

 

[Helpful person]

I was wondering about those. With a motivation like this, perhaps a much
more compact design would be the way to go with drop down menus, they
are, after all, just one level (make sure the top level is a link
itself).

I hate drop down menus (as a user). Just a personal preference. It
would also be difficult to stuff as many useful words into drop downs.

When first writing this web site using Frontpage (what a mistake) it
was just to be my shop window. However, I have got many contracts
from people googling.

www.richardfisher.com

 

[dorayme]

I hate drop down menus (as a user).

Not keen on them myself, I was considering a lesser than two evils
situation. I also had in mind not a dropdown on the main strip menu but
a neater facility to substitute to your own to the right...

Think about it, for your hidden motivation entirely, the user is
lumbered with a possibly confusing complexity right away. Is it really
worth it? I'd say don't do either. Never mind all the keyword stuff.

Make the site good to use and forget everything else entirely. I'd say
most people would hate a one level dropdown less than being faced with
so many possibilities. This way they can quickly move their mouse away
and forget the sight and just click on the main and clear top links.
Perhaps it is very psychological. One has a better impression of a house
if the mess is out of sight in cupboards etc <g>

By the way, I forget now, you might dispense with what is obvious, your
sub-heading: "We specialize in the following services:"

 

[Helpful person]

Make the site good to use and forget everything else entirely. I'd say
most people would hate a one level dropdown less than being faced with
so many possibilities. This way they can quickly move their mouse away
and forget the sight and just click on the main and clear top links.
Perhaps it is very psychological. One has a better impression of a house
if the mess is out of sight in cupboards etc <g>

By the way, I forget now, you might dispense with what is obvious, your
sub-heading: "We specialize in the following services:"

 

[Helpful person]

Make the site good to use and forget everything else entirely. I'd say
most people would hate a one level dropdown less than being faced with
so many possibilities. This way they can quickly move their mouse away
and forget the sight and just click on the main and clear top links.
Perhaps it is very psychological. One has a better impression of a house
if the mess is out of sight in cupboards etc <g>

By the way, I forget now, you might dispense with what is obvious, your
sub-heading: "We specialize in the following services:"

All good advice, thanks. However, for now I'll stick with the present
format although I will remove the sub heading.

www.richardfisher.com

 

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

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I have downloaded safari for windows and my web site looks OK.
However, I suspect there are quite a few differences using a Mac. I
agree that buying an old Mac is probably the best idea.

Not too old, however. It needs to be able to run OS 10. (On the other
hand a machine old enough to run OS 9 (or Classic in pre-Intel versions
of OS 10) has the advantage that you'll see what users who haven't
updated their machines are seeing.)

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athel

 

[SAZ]

It is good to help a friend out. For just looking at your own sites (on
a home server even), leave your friends in the lurch and go for an eight
year old for close to $0.

I originally had an 7 or 8 yr old Mac with OS9 that I got from a client
for free, but Safari is far OSX only. All I could get was Netscape and
IE for Mac, probably the crappiest browsers ever built.