A record for CSS file size?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

My local newspaper today launched a beta site for the readers to take a
look at:

http://beta.democratandchronicle.com/

I counted just under 6,700 lines of CSS. <whew!>

It's HTML 4.01 Transitional
There are 684 errors on the main page.
The CSS validator won't touch it.

 

[asdf]

My local newspaper today launched a beta site for the readers to take a
look at:

http://beta.democratandchronicle.com/

I counted just under 6,700 lines of CSS. <whew!>

It's HTML 4.01 Transitional
There are 684 errors on the main page.
The CSS validator won't touch it.

....and worst of all.... it's got a damned popup.

1/10. Actually no. If it's got a popup, it get's a big, fat 0.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

...and worst of all.... it's got a damned popup.

1/10. Actually no. If it's got a popup, it get's a big, fat 0.

Yep, popups. That was one of the things I mentioned in my email to the
address given for comments. It's also virtually useless without
JavaScript.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

My local newspaper today launched a beta site for the readers to take a
look at:

http://beta.democratandchronicle.com/

I counted just under 6,700 lines of CSS. <whew!>

Holy guacamole!

It's HTML 4.01 Transitional
There are 684 errors on the main page.
Heh.

The CSS validator won't touch it.

Would you?

 

[John Hosking]

My local newspaper today launched a beta site for the readers to take a
look at:

http://beta.democratandchronicle.com/

I counted just under 6,700 lines of CSS. <whew!>

It's HTML 4.01 Transitional

What, no XHTML?!? But... but, it's the future!

There are 684 errors on the main page.
The CSS validator won't touch it.

Hilarious (in the tragic sense...).

Every single CSS mistake I've ever seen discussed here or in
c.i.w.a.stylesheets is implemented in this site. I bet your response as
a beta tester was a long one.

I can tell the paper is* in the state of New York not because there's a
mention of the Finger Lakes waaaay down near the bottom of the home page
nor because there's only one Rochester in the world, but rather because
I remember from NG discussions that Mr. Shagnasty lives in New York. So
they needn't mention the area served on the actual site. Oh wait, I see
now that it's in the meta description and at the very end of the
<title>. No prob, then. Never mind. ;-)

The site's broken both without and *with* JS.

There's some sort of reload or redirect thing going on, at least with JS
on. Go to the URL and wait for the popups and cookies, if you allow
them, to settle down, then look in the previous page list of the Back
button.

Wait for the "gamma" version of the site.


*or "the papers are"; I don't know whether the site serves two distinct
newspapers or they merged into one sometime back.

 

[Andy Dingley]

I counted just under 6,700 lines of CSS. <whew!>

How many times do they repeat the name "Verdana" ?

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

How many times do they repeat the name "Verdana" ?

71, at my count.

It appears today they added another style sheet, partners_widget.css
and I didn't count the 'embedded styles' which ups the total lines to
6,820.

 

[Bergamot]

I can tell the paper is* in the state of New York not because...
...there's only one Rochester in the world

Gee, what happened to the one in Minnesota?

 

[Nick Theodorakis]

On Feb 27, 3:08 am, John Hosking <[email protected]>
wrote:
...

I can tell the paper is* in the state of New York not because there's a
mention of the Finger Lakes waaaay down near the bottom of the home page
nor because there's only one Rochester in the world, but rather because
I remember from NG discussions that Mr. Shagnasty lives in New York. So
they needn't mention the area served on the actual site. Oh wait, I see
now that it's in the meta description and at the very end of the
<title>. No prob, then. Never mind. ;-)

...

This is getting a bit OT, but that's a peeve I have with a lot of
newspaper websites. I don't understand why they think either that (a)
the reader already knows what region they are writing about or (b)
it's obvious from some context. I don't think they realize that many
readers hit the site not because they are a regular reader but from a
link from a search engine, an email, or some kind of social
bookmarking site such as Digg.

Nick

 

[Lew Loo]

Gee, what happened to the one in Minnesota?

Or the one on the Jack Benny show?

 

[asdf]

Gee, what happened to the one in Minnesota?

Rochester, England existed before the US. So there.

 

[asdf]

Rochester, England existed before the US. So there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester,_Kent in case you don't believe me.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Gee, what happened to the one in Minnesota?

I found a listing of "populated places" in the US that lists these
Rochesters:

Rochester, CA Long -117.5475515, Lat 34.0916774
Rochester, IA Long - 91.1584904, Lat 41.6739117
Rochester, IL Long - 87.8280852, Lat 38.3456022
Rochester, IL Long - 89.5317603, Lat 39.7494943
Rochester, IN Long - 86.2158331, Lat 41.0647645
Rochester, KY Long - 86.8930493, Lat 37.2125441
Rochester, MS Long - 70.8200371, Lat 41.7317701
Rochester, MI Long - 83.1338214, Lat 42.680588
Rochester, MN Long - 92.4698992, Lat 44.0216306
Rochester, MS Long - 94.6846845, Lat 39.9122168
Rochester, MO Long -112.5058466, Lat 45.6127036

I dunno why Illinois gets two.

 

[Neredbojias]

I found a listing of "populated places" in the US that lists these
Rochesters:

Rochester, CA Long -117.5475515, Lat 34.0916774
Rochester, IA Long - 91.1584904, Lat 41.6739117
Rochester, IL Long - 87.8280852, Lat 38.3456022
Rochester, IL Long - 89.5317603, Lat 39.7494943
Rochester, IN Long - 86.2158331, Lat 41.0647645
Rochester, KY Long - 86.8930493, Lat 37.2125441
Rochester, MS Long - 70.8200371, Lat 41.7317701
Rochester, MI Long - 83.1338214, Lat 42.680588
Rochester, MN Long - 92.4698992, Lat 44.0216306
Rochester, MS Long - 94.6846845, Lat 39.9122168
Rochester, MO Long -112.5058466, Lat 45.6127036

I dunno why Illinois gets two.

The 7th line in your list suggests 2 for 'MS' along with the 10th, but
there's something wrong because Missouri doesn't extend to latitude 41.7
degrees. Probably a typo.

 

[Neredbojias]

-Missouri doesn't extend to latitude 41.7
degrees. Probably a typo.

-Er, Mississippi I mean.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

The 7th line in your list suggests 2 for 'MS' along with the 10th, but
there's something wrong because Missouri doesn't extend to latitude 41.7
degrees. Probably a typo.

Yeah. I reformatted those lines to make them shorter so they wouldn't
wrap. Number 7 was supposed to be MAssachusetts. I boned the state code.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Yeah. I reformatted those lines to make them shorter so they wouldn't
wrap. Number 7 was supposed to be MAssachusetts. I boned the state code.

That's not all I boned, of the M states.

Those M states should be, in order shown:

Massachusetts MA
Michigan MI I got that one right
Minnesota MN I got that one right
Missouri MO
Montana MT

I stand embarrassed.

 

[Neredbojias]

That's not all I boned, of the M states.

Those M states should be, in order shown:

Massachusetts MA
Michigan MI I got that one right
Minnesota MN I got that one right
Missouri MO
Montana MT

I stand embarrassed.

Hehe, I screwed up MS, thinking Missouri instead of Mississippi. Geography
ain't our strong point...

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Hehe, I screwed up MS, thinking Missouri instead of Mississippi. Geography
ain't our strong point...

Actually, mine's not too bad. And I don't usually blow the state codes.
I don't know what the hell I was doing last night when I posted that
original. I think The Devil made me do it that way!

 

[Neredbojias]

Actually, mine's not too bad. And I don't usually blow the state
codes. I don't know what the hell I was doing last night when I posted
that original. I think The Devil made me do it that way!

I was one of them jamokes who could never remember the capitols of all 50
states simultaneously. The motivation just wasn't there. -Like someday my
boss is going to come up to me and ask, "Hey, Nerbo, what's the capitol of
New Hampshire? Well, if you don't know it, you're stoopid!" Yeah, right.
Who cares...