ANSI C syntax ?

[Default User]

Keith Thompson wrote:

I will not post again on this topic. I encourage everyone else to do
the same starting ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... NOW.

Agreed.


Brian

 

[Richard Heathfield]

Nelu said:

Given the fact that that thread went on for quite some time it
extended beyond a mere correction.

<shrug> Jacob needs a lot of correcting.

 

[CBFalconer]

.... snip ...

Os hte cditionakry is ujst orf unf?

You misspelled cditionary.

 

[Richard Bos]

What is that 28 (or so) syllable Welsh town that translates to
"hill hill hill"?

There isn't such a thing; you're confusing LLanfair P.G. and Torpenhow
hill (which actually means "Hill hill hill hill").

Richard

 

[Richard Bos]

No hard consonant.

There is a city in Egypt, near a famous dam, whose inhabitants are
Assuanians. I don't think anyone would begrudge them this name; I don't
think anyone would have trouble pronouncing it.

Americans are Brits

Highly debatable. _Some_ of them are descended of Britons. Some of them
are foolishly proud of being descended of other people.

who have gotten rid of the monarchy

True, but...

and now live in a republic.

....also debatable.

Richard

 

[Bob Martin]

There is a city in Egypt, near a famous dam, whose inhabitants are
Assuanians. I don't think anyone would begrudge them this name; I don't
think anyone would have trouble pronouncing it.


Highly debatable. _Some_ of them are descended of Britons. Some of them
are foolishly proud of being descended of other people.


True, but...


....also debatable.

I find it fascinating to note that the three main contributors to this most OT and ridiculous
thread are the three self-appointed "guardians" of the group who jump all over every
other OT post.

 

[Chris Dollin]

I find it fascinating to note that the three main contributors to this most OT and ridiculous
thread are the three self-appointed "guardians" of the group who jump all over every
other OT post.

(fx:eeyore)

Everyone has their blind spots and ratholes.

 

[Dik T. Winter]

....
[ about USAnian ]

> in order not to create confusion please use the
> standard established tens of years ago as opposed to a word
> that's not widely used and was invented to poke fun at Americans
> after 2001. (It seems the word appeared on the Internet in 2002,
> close enough to 2001, Afghanistan and Iraq).

Shall we make that 1987? The earliest attested occurrence that can be
found dates from January 1987. Actually in a discussion similar to this
one.

 

[Kenny McCormack]

I find it fascinating to note that the three main contributors to this
most OT and ridiculous thread are the three self-appointed "guardians"
of the group who jump all over every other OT post.

Which just goes to show you how hypocritical they are.

I think it is that everyone has to "let it out" somewhere/somehow, and
when you've got all that much shit stuffed up inside of you and nowhere
to let it go, you seize on the most OT of posts to do it.

 

[Joe Wright]

In eighteenth century English texts "American" usually means a Red Indian.

Probably not much after 1789.

 

[Joe Wright]

No; an American is someone from Canada, Mexico, Peru, Costa Rica, or
even, horrors of horrors, Cuba. Or, yes, from the USA.

No. Ask anyone from any of these places, except the USA of course, "Are
you American?" and they will all say "No. I am <nationality>".

How about you? I thought you were Hollandaise.

 

[santosh]

No. Ask anyone from any of these places, except the USA of course, "Are
you American?" and they will all say "No. I am <nationality>".

But it's also correct to refer to them as Americans. Just as people of
India, China and Japan can all be called as Asian, any one in the
Americas can be called an American. I admit it's not idiomatic usage,
but it's not wrong. I agree that, in the absence of any other context,
American must be taken to mean a citizen of the USA, since it's use
for that purpose is overwhelmingly more common than the more
generalised form.

The term USAian, doesn't seem offensive. It's awkward to pronounce,
but I don't see how it's insulting.

 

[Yevgen Muntyan]

But it's also correct to refer to them as Americans.

I'd guess it's people like you who say calling Ukrainians "Russians" is
correct. No way, you can not invent names for people just because
it sounds logical to you. If a Colombian says he is American, then he's
American. If he says he's not American, then he's not even if you
call folks from South Pole Antarcticians.

Just as people of
India, China and Japan can all be called as Asian, any one in the
Americas can be called an American. I admit it's not idiomatic usage,
but it's not wrong.

And because everybody thinks American means "from USA", you'd need
to say what you mean.

I agree that, in the absence of any other context,
American must be taken to mean a citizen of the USA, since it's use
for that purpose is overwhelmingly more common than the more
generalised form.

I.e. than the artificial form invented just to generalize something.

The term USAian, doesn't seem offensive. It's awkward to pronounce,
but I don't see how it's insulting.

To me it's funny, like Martian. But if I were an American, maybe
I'd find it offensive when a North-European-Country-With-Londonian
used it. I am sure that in nationality issues one needs to be sensitive
and trust offended person, or at least simply avoid talking about
why it is correct to offend that person.

Yevgen

 

[Chris Hills]

^^^^^^^

The above is not a word. The term you're searching for is "American".
If we're going to be pummeling the non-native speakers for using silly
abbreviations, then we ought to refrain from doing the same ourselves.

I should live with USAian.

In other Newsgroups people from the USA re referred to as
Moronicans.....
though in that case they are usually right wing nuts who think GWB is on
a par with The Pope/Einstein and can do know wrong as he is the only
Truly Great Leader in the world and the only accurate news media in the
world is Fox News .

You try suggesting to a Canadian that he is an "American" They tend to
see it as an insult.

If you don't like USAian what term would you use to specifically
describe US citizens?

 

[Chris Hills]

Does it bother Kazakhs, Latvians, Uzbeks, Chechens, etc.
to be called Russian?

A lot of them are fighting wars on that very point.

 

[Chris Hills]

Then many of your countrymen have far too high a sense of
self-importance. There's a fine line between patriotism and jingoism.

In similar vein it ticks me off when Yanks refer to me as English, or
refer to my capital city as either Edin-burgh, Edin-borrow or worst of
all, London. But I'm hardly going to start throwing my toys out of the
pram over it.

Mutter... whinge... west Lothian question... etc

 

[Chris Hills]

Neither. American is the correct term. Like the American in ANSI and
all that.

American is no more the correct term than "illegal combatant" is legal.
Just because the USAians start making uop their own definitions there is
no reason why the rest of the world has to accept them.

However whilst American can be used to cover all inhabitants of American
(north and south) is it generally taken to mean inhabitants of the USA.

I can for the life of me see why anyone should get up set at USAian any
more than Taff, Jock, Brit, Limey, Paddy, Mick etc

 

[Chris Hills]

Personally, I think its presumptuous of folk from the USA to refer to
themselves as Americans, as though somehow all the other people living
in North and South America aren't also Americans.

However, since Yanks normally think Scotland is in England,

You mean it isn't? When did that happen!!

and
Edinburgh rhymes with yurg,
and Sinclair is pronounced Saint Clare,

Actually I think it did once....

 

[Chris Hills]

Mark McIntyre wrote:



There is one and only one nation on Earth with America in its name.
Guess which citizens RIGHTFULLY use the NATIONAL identity American.

You've now been told that at least some of your American colleagues and
fellow group members find your use of that neologism offensive. It's
now up to you what you do from this point.
Brian

We could just ignore the USAian Brian?

 

[Chris Hills]

Keith Thompson wrote:



No Americans have taken "unreasonable" offense.

You have

USAian has been used in NG's for most of the 17 years I have been on the
Internet. You are the first person I have seen complain about it. USAian
may be new to Brian but it is in common usage. Get over it.