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susan

Hello,

I use an ëmbed src"to play mp3-files in a local html-page. Until last week
it used Windows Media Player. When I visited the page today it used
QuickTime. As far as I know I didn't change a thing.

How can I change it back to Windows Media Player?

Thanks,

Susan
 
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dorayme

"susan said:
Hello,

I use an ëmbed src"to play mp3-files in a local html-page. Until last week
it used Windows Media Player. When I visited the page today it used
QuickTime. As far as I know I didn't change a thing.

How can I change it back to Windows Media Player?

Platform?
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:45:09
GMT susan scribed:
Hello,

I use an ëmbed src"to play mp3-files in a local html-page. Until last
week it used Windows Media Player. When I visited the page today it
used QuickTime. As far as I know I didn't change a thing.

How can I change it back to Windows Media Player?

Quicktime is a heinous program that inveigles itself in your software. The
first thing I would do is get rid of it - "remove" it from your computer.
This may be necessary in some cases to remove it from browser-recognition.

You will also (probably) have to edit your browser's mime types as well.
If you're still having problems in a couple of days, I will retrace my own
steps in exorcising it from IE on my box and let you know what I did.
 
D

dorayme

Neredbojias said:
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:45:09
GMT susan scribed:


Quicktime is a heinous program that inveigles itself in your software. The
first thing I would do is get rid of it - "remove" it from your computer.
This may be necessary in some cases to remove it from browser-recognition.

You will also (probably) have to edit your browser's mime types as well.
If you're still having problems in a couple of days, I will retrace my own
steps in exorcising it from IE on my box and let you know what I did.

On a Mac one can set up what a browser should use for opening
files. For example, in Firefox, under the Content preferences,
there is a field where you can manage how the browser handles
certain file types. You can open with a plugin (these can be
inspected in their folder), open with some application, save them
to your computer and not open them. You can set these things up
easily. Perhaps it is more complex on Windows machines? It seems
very drastic to remove QT completely. Perhaps someone could go
through the procedure of how to set options for this on a Windows
machine... on a Windows forum if not here?
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

dorayme said:
On a Mac one can set up what a browser should use for opening
files. For example, in Firefox, under the Content preferences,
there is a field where you can manage how the browser handles
certain file types. You can open with a plugin (these can be
inspected in their folder), open with some application, save them
to your computer and not open them. You can set these things up
easily. Perhaps it is more complex on Windows machines?

It is the same for FF on Windows, but you can also set file open
defaults at the OS level. Both Quicktime AND RealPlayer have a nasty
habit of commandeering media types without notice. Like Neredbojias my
recommendation is uninstall the turkey. I recommend the open source
options that are less aggressive, QuicktimeAlternative and RealAlternative

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm
Free-Codecs.com : QuickTime Alternative 1.90

and

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm
Free-Codecs.com :: Download Real Alternative 1.60

It seems
very drastic to remove QT completely. Perhaps someone could go
through the procedure of how to set options for this on a Windows
machine... on a Windows forum if not here?

To change and action at the OS level...

Start > My Computer

Tools > Folder Options... > File Types

Scroll to "MP3"

Click the Open with "Change..." button and reset to Windows Media player.

Just be aware that if you open the Quicktime player it will probably
grab MP3s again. I would advise using the open source player that will
allow you to play MOVs and other QT files without the fuss...
 
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Sherman Pendley

susan said:
Hello,

I use an ëmbed src"to play mp3-files in a local html-page. Until last week
it used Windows Media Player. When I visited the page today it used
QuickTime. As far as I know I didn't change a thing.

As far as you know? Are you taking Ambien? :)

Some time between the most recent visit and the one before, someone (maybe
you) either updated or installed the QuickTime player on the PC you're using
to check the site, and answered "yes" when the installer asked if QT should
be the default media player for "internet content."
How can I change it back to Windows Media Player?

Start up Media Player and bring select the Tools/Options menu item. In the
options dialog, choose the "Files" pane and select the file types for which
WMP should be the default player.

sherm--
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:40:30
GMT dorayme scribed:
On a Mac one can set up what a browser should use for opening
files. For example, in Firefox, under the Content preferences,
there is a field where you can manage how the browser handles
certain file types. You can open with a plugin (these can be
inspected in their folder), open with some application, save them
to your computer and not open them. You can set these things up
easily. Perhaps it is more complex on Windows machines? It seems
very drastic to remove QT completely. Perhaps someone could go
through the procedure of how to set options for this on a Windows
machine... on a Windows forum if not here?

The problem I had was with ie6 on a Windows machine. It was exceedlingly
difficult to change Quicktime from being the default for certain mime
types no matter what I did. Dunno about ie7, and for ff and opera, I
experienced no real problem. Perhaps Sherm Pendley's method (re-
defaulting WMP) is a quick-fix I just didn't think of, but I really can't
remember. In any event, Jonathan N. Little has posted alterantives I
wished I knew about before, and I'd recommend those procedures
particularly in the case of Quicktime, which I'll never use again.
(Quicktime/mov files are also just made for embedding ads and other non-
user-friendly parasites of the digital persuasion.) However, keep in
mind that a portion of the dilemma is with ie/win, too.
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

Neredbojias said:
The problem I had was with ie6 on a Windows machine. It was exceedlingly
difficult to change Quicktime from being the default for certain mime
types no matter what I did. Dunno about ie7, and for ff and opera, I
experienced no real problem. Perhaps Sherm Pendley's method (re-
defaulting WMP) is a quick-fix I just didn't think of, but I really can't
remember. In any event, Jonathan N. Little has posted alterantives I
wished I knew about before, and I'd recommend those procedures
particularly in the case of Quicktime, which I'll never use again.
(Quicktime/mov files are also just made for embedding ads and other non-
user-friendly parasites of the digital persuasion.) However, keep in
mind that a portion of the dilemma is with ie/win, too.

No reason not to start now, just uninstall QT and then install QTA!

I discovered both a few years back when I wanted to listen to some
online radio and they only had an RA feed. Installed RealPlayer and damn
it if it didn't grab all my media even after registry hacking to isolate
its domain RAMs... I was about to throw towel and say screw the online
radio when I discovered RealAlternative. That lead me to
QuicktimeAlternative. I dump QT too and never looked back.

As a side note. Just installed XP, I was clinging to Win2K forever...but
when I transfered some MP3 from Win2K to XP drive all was fine until my
Windows Media player upgraded to v11. Now some won't play !&^%$ DRM the
help file says something about the rights are not transfered from v9
library to v11! Well QuicktimeAlternative & RealAlternative install
Media Player Classic. Play all the MP3s and WMAs with no problems...No
it doesn't have that "Oh that's pretty but I cannot find the bleeping
controls" skin, but hey, it *plays* the media!
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:42:14
GMT Jonathan N. Little scribed:
No reason not to start now, just uninstall QT and then install QTA!

I discovered both a few years back when I wanted to listen to some
online radio and they only had an RA feed. Installed RealPlayer and
damn it if it didn't grab all my media even after registry hacking to
isolate its domain RAMs... I was about to throw towel and say screw
the online radio when I discovered RealAlternative. That lead me to
QuicktimeAlternative. I dump QT too and never looked back.

As a side note. Just installed XP, I was clinging to Win2K
forever...but when I transfered some MP3 from Win2K to XP drive all
was fine until my Windows Media player upgraded to v11. Now some won't
play !&^%$ DRM the help file says something about the rights are not
transfered from v9 library to v11! Well QuicktimeAlternative &
RealAlternative install Media Player Classic. Play all the MP3s and
WMAs with no problems...No it doesn't have that "Oh that's pretty but
I cannot find the bleeping controls" skin, but hey, it *plays* the
media!

....Which, despite what Microsoft thinks, is actually the reason for the
software.

You sure they're mp3s, not wmas (-perhaps misidentified)? I didn't know
one could "drm" an mp3. Furthermore, that digital rights management crap
has made wma files, inferior anyway, the joke of the digital music age.

When I first got wmp11, I was a bit surprised. It seemed to work pretty
good (although what you say about the controls is true.) However, .aac
(and .mp4) files were coming out about then, and _they_ are the latest
word in superior digital music. Smaller size, better quality, and quite
user-friendly. Does wmp11 support them? No, of course not. Why not?
As I said before, because MS is just plain stupid. It's like Internet
Explorer, but <grin> have no fear... In 5 or 6 years when ie8 comes out,
it'll probably have most of the standards from 5 or 6 years back from
today down pat. Had I been an MS decision-maker, I'd have busted my hump
to support these new and desirable music formats, but they just go
blithely along in their retrograde world asking where you want to go
today for a good laugh or two before they dream up some new shit to
alienate the end user. You gotta love it.

I'll probably install QTA although I've avoided .mov files and don't have
any on-hand. Neither do I have any .rm or rma (et al) files but since my
box came with a registered version of RealPlayer, I think I'll leave that
alone. My main music player (and pretty much recorder now) is Winamp
which I liked enough to purchased the Pro version of. Musicmatch is/was
pretty decent, too, although now it's Abode or something.
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

Neredbojias said:
...Which, despite what Microsoft thinks, is actually the reason for the
software.

Seems to be a trend, MS software that worked just fine that after
upgrade and "enhancement"...well Office and basic file management
Explorer come to mind.
You sure they're mp3s, not wmas (-perhaps misidentified)? I didn't know
one could "drm" an mp3. Furthermore, that digital rights management crap
has made wma files, inferior anyway, the joke of the digital music age.

Nope, they're mp3s. Successfully transfered my media library from old
drive with Win2K profile to new with WinXP and worked until and my WMP
v9 was upgraded.
When I first got wmp11, I was a bit surprised. It seemed to work pretty
good (although what you say about the controls is true.) However, .aac
(and .mp4) files were coming out about then, and _they_ are the latest
word in superior digital music. Smaller size, better quality, and quite
user-friendly. Does wmp11 support them? No, of course not. Why not?
As I said before, because MS is just plain stupid. It's like Internet
Explorer, but <grin> have no fear... In 5 or 6 years when ie8 comes out,
it'll probably have most of the standards from 5 or 6 years back from
today down pat. Had I been an MS decision-maker, I'd have busted my hump
to support these new and desirable music formats, but they just go
blithely along in their retrograde world asking where you want to go
today for a good laugh or two before they dream up some new shit to
alienate the end user. You gotta love it.

Had the "pleasure" to fix a Windows Vista machine lately. Firstly it is
amazing how much stuff (software and hardware) does *not* work on Vista.
Get places like network adapter setting and user profile can be an
exercise of real frustration. To transfer user profile data you need to
have access to hidden folder within a profile. For instance move a
Thunderbird mail account. Real easy, just move the contents "mail"
folder to the

[userProfile]\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\[salt].default\Mail

Piece of cake! On Linux, Win9x-XP...just show hidden and system folders,
right? Probably on a Mac too. Not on Vista! Had to go hunting. The only
way to get there, even while administrator, is to put the env var
%AppData% in the Run Box!

I can understand protecting the OS, especially from idiots, but the
stuff in your profile folder is supposed to be, well YOURS!

<rant>
If I buy a CD it is mine! If I buy or build a PC, it's mine. If I buy
WindowsWZ and put it on my computer, it's mine. If not, and WindowsWZ
breaks or @#^%$-up my stuff, then MS should fix it on their dime if it
is not mine!
</rant>

Sorry... lost it there a moment...
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:14:31
GMT Jonathan N. Little scribed:
Seems to be a trend, MS software that worked just fine that after
upgrade and "enhancement"...well Office and basic file management
Explorer come to mind.


Nope, they're mp3s. Successfully transfered my media library from old
drive with Win2K profile to new with WinXP and worked until and my WMP
v9 was upgraded.

Huh. Believe it or not (-and I quite believe you), I've never run into
an mp3 like that I couldn't play. True, I generally use Winamp, but I
have well over 1000 mp3s on my 'puter and most of 'em (if not all) have
been through wmp11 at some time or other. Furthermore, Winamp seems to
honor drm on wmas. In any event, it was a stupid, bad idea - at least as
far as major user consumption is concerned. Simple marketing research
should have told them that (unless those "professionals" are as bogus as
the ones at MS.)
When I first got wmp11, I was a bit surprised. It seemed to work
pretty good (although what you say about the controls is true.)
However, .aac (and .mp4) files were coming out about then, and _they_
are the latest word in superior digital music. Smaller size, better
quality, and quite user-friendly. Does wmp11 support them? No, of
course not. Why not? As I said before, because MS is just plain
stupid. It's like Internet Explorer, but <grin> have no fear... In
5 or 6 years when ie8 comes out, it'll probably have most of the
standards from 5 or 6 years back from today down pat. Had I been an
MS decision-maker, I'd have busted my hump to support these new and
desirable music formats, but they just go blithely along in their
retrograde world asking where you want to go today for a good laugh
or two before they dream up some new shit to alienate the end user.
You gotta love it.

Had the "pleasure" to fix a Windows Vista machine lately. Firstly it
is amazing how much stuff (software and hardware) does *not* work on
Vista. Get places like network adapter setting and user profile can be
an exercise of real frustration. To transfer user profile data you
need to have access to hidden folder within a profile. For instance
move a Thunderbird mail account. Real easy, just move the contents
"mail" folder to the

[userProfile]\Application
Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\[salt].default\Mail

Piece of cake! On Linux, Win9x-XP...just show hidden and system
folders, right? Probably on a Mac too. Not on Vista! Had to go
hunting. The only way to get there, even while administrator, is to
put the env var %AppData% in the Run Box!

I've heard there were troubles with Vista (MS's "last great hope" -
'last' meaning most recent), but what choice is there? I'm still on XP,
which is no pinnacle of excellence, either, but if/when I bought/buy a
new box...? Sure, Lixux, Unix, Mac, etc., but except for the mac, those
aren't really mainstream options, and technically by market-share, mac
isn't, either. Besides, I've gotten used to what I've gotten used to.
It's like having an old lady who doesn't put out anymore but you still
like her pickling techniques. In the early days, there were several
choices: TRS-80, Apple, Commodore, TI, and others. Now there's
basically just one. Of course, one could always dump the box and get a
cell phone thingy like the juvenile delinquents do.
I can understand protecting the OS, especially from idiots, but the
stuff in your profile folder is supposed to be, well YOURS!

<rant>
If I buy a CD it is mine! If I buy or build a PC, it's mine. If I buy
WindowsWZ and put it on my computer, it's mine. If not, and WindowsWZ
breaks or @#^%$-up my stuff, then MS should fix it on their dime if it
is not mine!
</rant>

Sorry... lost it there a moment...

Har har hardy har har! You want _Microsoft_ to fix it? -Microsoft?? Up
until now I thought you were a rational person.

Btw, they came out with a Window's Update 3-4 months ago which screwed up
lots of things. One of these "things" was making my box require a BIOS
update to run as smoothly as it had prior to the update. Now that's the
Microsoft we know and love so bloomin' well.
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

Neredbojias said:
Har har hardy har har! You want _Microsoft_ to fix it? -Microsoft?? Up
until now I thought you were a rational person.

I have no illusions. How else did big Bill get his billions. I just find
the concept funny, you buy it, but you don't own it. You agree to accept
any damage or harm it might do, they are not liable, but your cannot
use it as you please nor modify it if you can fix it. You want them to
support it you must pay them but they are no obligated to fix
it...sweet! A one-way contract.
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:30:40
GMT Jonathan N. Little scribed:
I have no illusions. How else did big Bill get his billions. I just
find the concept funny, you buy it, but you don't own it. You agree to
accept any damage or harm it might do, they are not liable, but your
cannot use it as you please nor modify it if you can fix it. You want
them to support it you must pay them but they are no obligated to fix
it...sweet! A one-way contract.

Yep - the advantages of a de-facto monopoly. Nevertheless, I feel that
Microsoft's biggest negatives have come later rather than earlier. I liked
them when they first started out. Now they're just trying to make a buck
in all possible ways determined to be available and that's gonna kill them
in the end. You watch. The first real competitor that comes along will
have them crapping in their pants. If that doesn't happen, they'll still
lose by attrition of viability. I'm honestly surprised they've held sway
for so long, anyway, because in today's world, major ineptness is generally
not tolerated by the consumer.
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

Neredbojias said:
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:30:40
GMT Jonathan N. Little scribed:


Yep - the advantages of a de-facto monopoly. Nevertheless, I feel that
Microsoft's biggest negatives have come later rather than earlier. I liked
them when they first started out. Now they're just trying to make a buck
in all possible ways determined to be available and that's gonna kill them
in the end. You watch. The first real competitor that comes along will
have them crapping in their pants. If that doesn't happen, they'll still
lose by attrition of viability. I'm honestly surprised they've held sway
for so long, anyway, because in today's world, major ineptness is generally
not tolerated by the consumer.

I agree. In some ways I wish for them to get really threated, and get
them to go back to software that works for people that want to get stuff
done.
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:00:48
GMT Jonathan N. Little scribed:
I agree. In some ways I wish for them to get really threated, and get
them to go back to software that works for people that want to get
stuff done.

That's it exactly. As with evolution, adversity dictates progress.
Microsoft has been _devolving_ the last decade or more, so perhaps (maybe)
when Bill Gates kicks the bucket, some white knight will come charging in
with an agenda containing a prime directive of something other than to
heinously impale the public.
 

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