Free Java Look and Feel Jar Files

[Sameer]

Please provide links for some fancy looking Java Look and Feel which is
FREE also.
-Sameer

 

[Dag Sunde]

Please provide links for some fancy looking Java Look and Feel which is
FREE also.

Please use google to look for it yourself. Keywords "Java L&F"

 

[jan V]

Please provide links for some fancy looking Java Look and Feel which is
FREE also.

Sameer, maybe you can learn to phrase your posts so that people don't get
the impression you're treating us like your butler. I guess you probably
didn't mean it that way, but it does come across like that...

Secondly, giving some clues as to the amount of effort you've already
invested in trying to solve your problem may also induce people to be more
generous with their time.

 

[Andrew Thompson]

Please use google to look for it yourself. Keywords "Java L&F"

Though, perhaps giving you more than you deserve, you
might add 'jgoodies' to that search.

Of course, it depends what you mean by 'fancy looking',
as well...

Note also that their is a group specifically about GUIs.
<http://www.physci.org/codes/javafaq.jsp#cljg>

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[Sameer]

I will rephrase my question.
But I do not understand the meaning of the sentence-

'Secondly, giving some clues as to the amount of effort you've already
invested in trying to solve your problem may also induce people to be
more generous with their time.'

 

[Andrew Thompson]

I will rephrase my question.
But I do not understand the meaning of the sentence-

'Secondly, giving some clues as to the amount of effort you've already
invested in trying to solve your problem may also induce people to be
more generous with their time.'

"I Googled for 'fancy looking' PLAF and found nothing"

"I tried xyz.plaf but found it was not fancy enough."

"Something along the lines of blah.plaf would be great,
but it is way too expensive for my free program."
....

 

[Andrew Thompson]

'Secondly, giving some clues as to the amount of effort you've already
invested in trying to solve your problem may also induce people to be
more generous with their time.'

Or a more general way to put it, is to ask a 'smart question'
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before>

 

[jan V]

I will rephrase my question.

But I do not understand the meaning of the sentence-

'Secondly, giving some clues as to the amount of effort you've already
invested in trying to solve your problem may also induce people to be
more generous with their time.'

It means that you may want to add some evidence showing that you have
already tried to solve the problem yourself, before you ask us to help you.
To many regulars in this NG, it would suggest you deserve to be helped.
That's just common sense, I hope.

 

[Roedy Green]

Please provide links for some fancy looking Java Look and Feel which is
FREE also.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/laf.html

 

[Roedy Green]

Sameer, maybe you can learn to phrase your posts so that people don't get
the impression you're treating us like your butler. I guess you probably
didn't mean it that way, but it does come across like that...

Come on. If you did not enjoy serving people you would not be
answering questions. This is an international forum where many people
don't speak English as their first language or speak dialect of it
quite different from the ones spoken in the USA. Unless people go out
of their way to be rude, please cut them some slack.

Just because people are in the down position of requesting
information, that is no excuse to rag them. I am astounded at how
badly people treat strangers on the net, in ways they would never dare
face to face.

If you don't want to answer, don't answer. If you want to give them
hints on how to ask better questions, don't put them down for not
knowing your advice in advance.

My view is every person here is a potential Java programmer. Every
thing we do to discourage them is cutting our own throats. Everything
we do to encourage them will eventually build Java.

 

[Roedy Green]

It means that you may want to add some evidence showing that you have
already tried to solve the problem yourself, before you ask us to help you.
To many regulars in this NG, it would suggest you deserve to be helped.
That's just common sense, I hope.

Get stuffed Jan. You are not queen of the May. People can post
questions without bowing and kowtowing to you and your mother may I
rules.

Explaining what you have done to solve a problem already is a good
technique, but not a mandatory one.

You are taking out some personal power frustration on innocent
newbies.

 

[Raymond DeCampo]

Come on. If you did not enjoy serving people you would not be
answering questions. This is an international forum where many people
don't speak English as their first language or speak dialect of it
quite different from the ones spoken in the USA. Unless people go out
of their way to be rude, please cut them some slack.

Just because people are in the down position of requesting
information, that is no excuse to rag them. I am astounded at how
badly people treat strangers on the net, in ways they would never dare
face to face.

If you don't want to answer, don't answer. If you want to give them
hints on how to ask better questions, don't put them down for not
knowing your advice in advance.

My view is every person here is a potential Java programmer. Every
thing we do to discourage them is cutting our own throats. Everything
we do to encourage them will eventually build Java.

Roedy, you seem to be going a little hard on Jan. His reply was
relative polite and allowed for the possibility that Sameer is not aware
of how other perceive the tone of his posts. Jan's reply to Sameer
seems much more diplomatic than your reply to Jan.

Ray

 

[Andrew Thompson]

....
....I am astounded at how
badly people treat strangers on the net,

I likewise, am astounded at how precious people can be.

jan's advice was a 1000% more useful and helpful than the
advice *not* offered by the other ten people who were thinking
the same thing but did not bother to reply*.

If the OP has the sense to listen to the advice and learn from it,
they may become a usenaut and long term contributor. OTOH, if they
do not, they will likely get little more advice, and drift away
from these groups (and potentially Java) with the feeling that the
Java community is 'unhelpful'.

So, quite the opposite to you, I feel jan's approach
*strengthens* the Java community.

* I was one of the ones who (at first) did not bother to reply.
Interestingly, ..neither did you.

 

[Dave Glasser]

Get stuffed Jan. You are not queen of the May. People can post
questions without bowing and kowtowing to you and your mother may I
rules.

Well said. Tonight is probably the first time in a year that I've
browsed this group, and it's the same old bullshit as always--one or
two self-appointed net cops waiting to pounce on every post they're
able to find the least little bit of fault with. And I find their
lecturing, self-important and condescending tones really nauseating.
And to boot, there wasn't a goddam thing wrong with the OP's question.
It's perfectly on-topic, and the guy said "please", for chrissakes. If
no one else has suggested it, he ought to look here:

http://www.javootoo.com/

My theory on these net cops is that they were probably picked on a lot
as kids. Now, years later, they've finally found a playground--a
programming newsgroup <snicker>--where they can be one of the biggest
and toughest kids around. And they want all these newbies to know
who's in charge around here.


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[Sameer]

Thank 'Dave Glasser' for the website link for which i have posted the
question. I may not get this link after searching it over the net.

Thanks other people for discussion favouring Java Community.

 

[G Winstanley]

Come on. If you did not enjoy serving people you would not be
answering questions. This is an international forum where many people
don't speak English as their first language or speak dialect of it
quite different from the ones spoken in the USA. Unless people go out
of their way to be rude, please cut them some slack.

Just because people are in the down position of requesting
information, that is no excuse to rag them. I am astounded at how
badly people treat strangers on the net, in ways they would never dare
face to face.

Sadly Roedy, I think there are far too many people out there who *would*
dare to treat strangers like that face to face, but then it would be
nice to believe otherwise. In many ways I find it a sad reflection of
the state of humanity that I smile when people are civil to each other -
this should be the norm, not the exception. There are definitely some
that frequent this NG that could lighten their spirits when replying to
posts. Ho hum.

Stan

 

[jan V]

'Secondly, giving some clues as to the amount of effort you've already

Get stuffed Jan. You are not queen of the May. People can post
questions without bowing and kowtowing to you and your mother may I
rules.

Oops.. guess my replies pushed the wrong buttons in you.

I'm not expecting any bowing or anything, I was just suggesting the OP try a
different approach. Making a suggestion does not equate imposing a rule,
which is something nobody can do in relation to a NG anyway. I don't really
see how my suggestions invite your outburst, but I guess everyone's entitled
to a bad day at work, eh?

You are taking out some personal power frustration on innocent newbies.

I just think it's one of those modern illnesses to exhibit blatant laziness
in a newsgroup. Most of the experienced folk around here didn't get where we
got to in our careers by crying for help at every first opportunity, so I
believe that newbies wishing to become good programmers should at least be
able to stand on their own two feet and make a real
searching/learning/debugging effort before asking for help. It's a pedagogic
philosphy, and really has nothing to do with any alleged frustrations...

Hoping to find you in a better mood next time. ;-)

 

[Sameer]

I hope this will end the thread. Thanks "Jan V" for reminding the padagogic
philosophy about learning efforts.

 

[Dave Glasser]

I just think it's one of those modern illnesses to exhibit blatant laziness
in a newsgroup.

Personally, I think it's an illness of sorts when someone feels
compelled to castigate another for a real or imagined breach of usenet
etiquette. Not you specifically, but there's another guy in c.l.j.p
who seems to make it his life's work. If you look at his posting
history on google groups, it seems that in at least half of his posts
he's hectoring someone about the way they worded their post, or for
not posting code, even when a code sample is not necessary (at least
for me) to answer the question. I've even seen him lecture people
about how they should spend a few days reading the newsgroup before
posting a question. How friggin' pompous.

Most of the experienced folk around here didn't get where we
got to in our careers by crying for help at every first opportunity, so I
believe that newbies wishing to become good programmers should at least be
able to stand on their own two feet and make a real
searching/learning/debugging effort before asking for help.

Ah, I think I see the source of your confusion. You apparently think
that when someone asks a simple, specific, on-topic question in a
programming newsgroup, they're not really seeking a simple answer to
their question. Instead, they're really looking for someone to mentor
them in the ways of "becoming good programmers" and "standing on their
own two feet."


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