HELP, i need information to write a java applets for testing internet connection speed

[Jose]

Hi Everyone!
My name is Jose and I'm from Argentina. I have to write an applet for
testing the internet connection speed (upload, download and latency)
and i've also been asked that it must be very graphical, with graphs
and sort of meter (like clock) controls. The problem is that i have to
start from complete scratch (without anything), so It would be great if
you could recommend me some pages with help, cause i don't where to
start. Besides that i have noone that helps me. Well that's all. Thanks
for reading this.


Bye Jose

 

[Andrew Thompson]

...I have to ..

Why? For school/college? For work?

..write an applet ..

Get ready for a very steep learning curve. You should do command
line applications, then GUI'd applications, *then* applets.

..for testing the internet connection speed (upload, download and latency)

It will end up being mostly lies.

It is very difficult to estimate in any reliable way the
bandwidth throughput from moment to moment.

The 'site design' gurus recommend the following tried and
tested solution.

View the <a a href='tiny.media'>small</a> or

and i've also been asked that it must be very graphical, with graphs
and sort of meter (like clock) controls.

Very cute, yes.

The problem is that i have to
start from complete scratch (without anything),

What a load of rubbish. To be able to access internet implies
that you are better off than a lot of people in the world.

That sort of attitude will either attract derisive comments as above,
or cause people generally to avoid your posts. Acting pathetic (largely)
does not work for you on most of the Java technical groups.

..so It would be great if
you could recommend me some pages with help, cause i don't where to
start.

OK, that is showing some positive attitude.

There is a better group for beginners, more here..
<http://www.physci.org/codes/javafaq.jsp#cljh>

Here some documents that are aimed at tips to get your started..
<http://home.earthlink.net/~patricia_shanahan/beginner.html>
<http://mindprod.com/jgloss/homework.html>

This is a Java FAQ that references both those and has lots
of mention of applets, read it in its entirety.

..Besides that i have noone that helps me.

....hmmmm.

If I see you over on c.l.j.help showing signs you are putting
effort into learning Java, ..and not acting pathetic, I might
be able to assist further.

HTH

 

[Virgil Green]

On 13 Jan 2005 06:28:19 -0800, Jose wrote:

What a load of rubbish. To be able to access internet implies
that you are better off than a lot of people in the world.

That sort of attitude will either attract derisive comments as above,
or cause people generally to avoid your posts. Acting pathetic
(largely) does not work for you on most of the Java technical groups.

That was uncalled for. I expect that "start from scratch" merely meant he
had none of the needed components currently implemented or was unfamiliar
with what might be needed... which I believe was indicated by this next
comment....

OK, that is showing some positive attitude.

There is a better group for beginners, more here..
<http://www.physci.org/codes/javafaq.jsp#cljh>

Here some documents that are aimed at tips to get your started..
<http://home.earthlink.net/~patricia_shanahan/beginner.html>
<http://mindprod.com/jgloss/homework.html>

This is a Java FAQ that references both those and has lots
of mention of applets, read it in its entirety.


...hmmmm.

If I see you over on c.l.j.help showing signs you are putting
effort into learning Java, ..and not acting pathetic, I might
be able to assist further.

Again, I think this was over the top. The dude is probably just working
alone and doesn't have any other java developers on site to help.

So, what's with the "pathetic" comments?

 

[Ann]

That was uncalled for. I expect that "start from scratch" merely meant he
had none of the needed components currently implemented or was unfamiliar
with what might be needed... which I believe was indicated by this next
comment....


Again, I think this was over the top. The dude is probably just working
alone and doesn't have any other java developers on site to help.

So, what's with the "pathetic" comments?

What, you got no compassion?

pathetic (American Heritage)
1. Arousing or capable of arousing sympathetic sadness and compassion.

 

[Virgil Green]

What, you got no compassion?

pathetic (American Heritage)
1. Arousing or capable of arousing sympathetic sadness and compassion.

I don't think that was the definition being applied in this case. Me thinks
the intent was more pejorative in nature. I didn't see any compassion being
aroused in the poster who used the term.

 

[Ann]

I don't think that was the definition being applied in this case. Me thinks
the intent was more pejorative in nature. I didn't see any compassion being
aroused in the poster who used the term.

Just kidding around.

 

[Virgil Green]

Just kidding around.

Remember the smiley faces!

 

[Andrew Thompson]

...
That was uncalled for. ... ..... ....
Again, I think this was over the top. The dude is probably just working
alone and doesn't have any other java developers on site to help.

So, what's with the "pathetic" comments?

It is a general attitude that I recognise from becoming involved
in answering of many posts by people who are new to programming
and/or usenet.

If this type of tone is not stomped on early and heavy, the
poster struggles on for a few posts then disappears. The poster
may disappear completely based on that *single* post, but that
probably indicates they do not have a thick enough skin to get
good use of usenet in any case.

(shrugs) I might be completely wrong.

But in any event, if the OP can get over it & post to c.l.j.help,
I will offer further assistance, otherwise they can take their luck
with anybody that posts to this thread.

(raises eyebrow) You got any tips for the OP on this one, or did
you perhaps feel that the links and tips* I provided adequately
covered the 'best first advice' for starting Java programming?

* Most pointedly, would you actually -recommend- anybody to include
phrases that might so much as imply they deserve greater allowances,
more or faster attention..?

To Jose, I look forward to seeing you over on c.l.j.help, where you
will find *lots* of friendly helpful people, including Virgil and
many others. As an added bonus. On c.l.j.help, I even make a point
of being much more polite. ;-)

 

[Joona I Palaste]

Ann wrote:

(snip lots of stuff that had long since become irrelevant)

Remember the smiley faces!

And the snipping!

--
/-- Joona Palaste ([email protected]) ------------- Finland --------\
\-------------------------------------------------------- rules! --------/
"'It can be easily shown that' means 'I saw a proof of this once (which I didn't
understand) which I can no longer remember'."
- A maths teacher

 

[Virgil Green]

It is a general attitude that I recognise from becoming involved
in answering of many posts by people who are new to programming
and/or usenet.

If this type of tone is not stomped on early and heavy, the
poster struggles on for a few posts then disappears. The poster
may disappear completely based on that *single* post, but that
probably indicates they do not have a thick enough skin to get
good use of usenet in any case.

(shrugs) I might be completely wrong.

The "tone" you recognized looked more like translation issues from someone
who (I have surmised from data in their post) uses English as their second
language. So, I think you are wrong on this one. I always try to allow for
language issues, especially from those who have actually taken the time and
put forth the effort to *learn* a second language.

But in any event, if the OP can get over it & post to c.l.j.help,
I will offer further assistance, otherwise they can take their luck
with anybody that posts to this thread.

(raises eyebrow) You got any tips for the OP on this one, or did
you perhaps feel that the links and tips* I provided adequately
covered the 'best first advice' for starting Java programming?

It is a general attitude that I recognise from becoming involved in
answering of many posts to people who are using a second language to
communicate with us in these forums.

If this type of tone is not stomped on early and heavy, the Original Poster
struggles on for a few posts then disappears. The poster may disappear
completely based on that *single* post, but that probably indicates they
have found an inhospitable forum in which their attempts to communicate in
"our" language have been met with derision.

* Most pointedly, would you actually -recommend- anybody to include
phrases that might so much as imply they deserve greater allowances,
more or faster attention..?

No, unless they are inadvertent due to language issues.

 

[Andrew Thompson]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:12:27 GMT, Virgil Green wrote:

(impressions from post..)

..No, unless they are inadvertent due to language issues.

Good points Virgil, most of which I completely missed (but now
seem intuitively obvious, upon rereading) in my original posts.
I'll give them a close look over later.

- Jose - Please come back! Nobody here wants you to stop making posts.