Installing Java VM on RedHat 9.0.

[linux user]

Hi:

1)
I have downloaded the Java run time engine

j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin
and the one with rpm.

Neither work: I get a file corrupted message.

I have repeated the operation several times, using my usua,l browsers
(konqueror and firebird) which usually work with almost anything.

Still same result.
Any idea there.
Did you have a better experience there?

2)
Dowload problems:
Indeed using wget is made impossible by SUN. Too bad.

It is the third time that I have to install the JRE on a system, the
previous was a PC with windows 2000.
In each case it is a major pain!

3)
A solution would be for the major Linux distributions vendors
Mandrake, Suse, RedHat etc... to integrate the Java VM, and also SDK
in their distribution.
It seems that there are copyright issues there which make it
impractical.
You comments here?

And SUN is now suing MS...
In my view, JAVA to be successful should be moved out of the control
of SUN, and possibly to the FSF, so all is fixed.
Also it would be good for the FSF to supprt actively Java, and I bet
than within one year it would scream. Else...

As interested that I am in java applications and java programming, now
I tend to believe that SUN should stop controlling JAVA and rather
generater revenues based on its Java expertise, development,
trainings, services....

I am also wondering if SUN would not poorly support Linux based JRE,
it would absurd, but ....

uselinux2000

ps: I also tried to install Java on MAndrake 9.1: just as bad.

 

[Jing Zheng]

Hi:

1)
I have downloaded the Java run time engine

j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin
and the one with rpm.

Neither work: I get a file corrupted message.

I have repeated the operation several times, using my usua,l browsers
(konqueror and firebird) which usually work with almost anything.

Still same result.
Any idea there.
Did you have a better experience there?

I downloaded JDK1.4.2(.bin) file for Redhat 9. it works pretty
smoothly. I didn't find any problem with it. I didn't try the JRE
1.4.2 though.

 

[John C. Bollinger]

Hi:

1)
I have downloaded the Java run time engine

j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin
and the one with rpm.

Neither work: I get a file corrupted message.

You get that message when you do what, exactly? You do know that these
files are shell archives, right? You can run them through sh to extract
the actual tar / rpm.

I have repeated the operation several times, using my usua,l browsers
(konqueror and firebird) which usually work with almost anything.

Still same result.
Any idea there.
Did you have a better experience there?

I have never had a problem like the one you describe, although I don't
know that I have tried the specific combination of JRE release and OS
version.

2)
Dowload problems:
Indeed using wget is made impossible by SUN. Too bad.

Sun is well within their rights to control access to their intellectual
property. They are in fact extremely liberal about giving it away, but
they do try to ensure that they do so under a license that protects
their rights.

It is the third time that I have to install the JRE on a system, the
previous was a PC with windows 2000.
In each case it is a major pain!

Again, I have never had any problems with JRE installation. The Windows
install packages I have used have worked smoothly for me on Windows 95,
98, NT, 2000, and XP. The Linux packages have also been fine, although
I have tended to install recent RPMs on recent RedHat releases.

3)
A solution would be for the major Linux distributions vendors
Mandrake, Suse, RedHat etc... to integrate the Java VM, and also SDK
in their distribution.
It seems that there are copyright issues there which make it
impractical.
You comments here?

I gather that some PC makers are now bundling the Sun JRE with their
Windows PCs. It is conceivable that some Linux distributors might be
able to cut a similar deal with Sun. I think that would be nice, but
I'm not holding my breath for it.

And SUN is now suing MS...

"Now"? That's no kind of news.

In my view, JAVA to be successful should be moved out of the control
of SUN, and possibly to the FSF, so all is fixed.

Java is aleady quite successful. If it were free software then perhaps
it could be more successful, but I don't think that's assured. In any
case, how do you propose to "move" Java out of Sun's control? What
justification can you offer for forcibly wresting Sun's property away
from it? Do you really think that the FSF would be willing to accept it
under such terms? I hope not: such action is the antithesis of freedom.

Also it would be good for the FSF to supprt actively Java, and I bet
than within one year it would scream. Else...

A large number of very good engineers in various places including Sun
and IBM are at work on Java now, and their efforts have produced
considerable fruit. If Java were an FSF project then it is possible
that development would proceed at a quicker pace, but I see no reason to
assume that that would be the case.

Don't get me wrong: I like free software, both as a product and as a
concept. I use free software, including Linux distributions packed full
of it. I think the FSF is great. I just don't believe that the FSF is
composed of miracle workers or hyperactive supergeniuses, or that making
a piece of software free _guarantees_ anything about how its development
will progress.

As interested that I am in java applications and java programming, now
I tend to believe that SUN should stop controlling JAVA and rather
generater revenues based on its Java expertise, development,
trainings, services....

Sun management appears to disagree, and it is their opinion that matters
here.

I am also wondering if SUN would not poorly support Linux based JRE,
it would absurd, but ....

I think it highly unlikely that Sun would intentionally deliver a
crippled Java for Linux. I see no advantage in it for them. That's not
proof of anything, but businesses usually behave more or less
rationally. Or die.


John Bollinger
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Sudsy]

Hi:

1)
I have downloaded the Java run time engine

j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin
and the one with rpm.

Neither work: I get a file corrupted message.

I have repeated the operation several times, using my usua,l browsers
(konqueror and firebird) which usually work with almost anything.

Still same result.
Any idea there.
Did you have a better experience there?

RedHat Linux 9 (Shrike), kernel version 2.4.20-8.
jsdk-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin: size = 35796720
No problems whatsoever.
Pay particular attention to the file size: if you've
used the wrong protocol to download then you're going
to be in trouble.
Don't know what else to suggest...
(other than using Netscape/Mozilla)

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pierre-Yves_Landur=E9?=]

hi

perhaps you will think that i'll treat you as a dumb.. but well..
sometimes, it is stupid answers that work )

you can not do :
rpm -i j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin

you must do:
chmod +x j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin
../j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin

this will extract the rpm file

then, you do something like :

rpm -i j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.rpm

Hope that help =

Pierre-Yves

 

[Barnez]

I seem to remember having to go through an extra step.
1. bash j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.bin (then page through license)
2. rpm -i j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586.rpm