New videos: "Crockford on JavaScript"

[Jorge]

"The Early Years"
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/video.php?v=crockonjs-1

"And Then There Was JavaScript"
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/video.php?v=crockonjs-2

Enjoy,

 

[JR]

"The Early Years"http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/video.php?v=crockonjs-1

"And Then There Was JavaScript"http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/video.php?v=crockonjs-2

Enjoy,

After reading the following post by Brendan Eich in his weblog, I
began to distrust the stories told by Douglas Crockford:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roadmap/archives/2008/04/popularity.html

Okay, Douglas is very convincing in his presentations and he is a very
good teacher indeed, but he was not there at Netscape alongside
Brendan to be able to say what really happened in the "early days" of
JS. I don't like History as told by non-Historians...

 

[Scott Sauyet]

After reading the following post by Brendan Eich in his weblog, I
began to distrust the stories told by Douglas Crockford:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roadmap/archives/2008/04/popularity.html

Okay, Douglas is very convincing in his presentations and he is a very
good teacher indeed, but he was not there at Netscape alongside
Brendan to be able to say what really happened in the "early days" of
JS. I don't like History as told by non-Historians...

Funny, I think that history as told by actual participants is
generally even further from the truth!

-- Scott

 

[Jorge]

After reading the following post by Brendan Eich in his weblog, I
began to distrust the stories told by Douglas Crockford:http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roadmap/archives/2008/04/popularity.html

You've got to keep in mind that at that time (just before the summer
'08) the 3.1 vs 4 battle inside ECMA was at the zenith...
"harmony" only arrived later that summer a day in the middle of
August, the same day that the subway at 7th/53rd in NYC caught on
fire.

 

[Jorge]

Funny, I think that history as told by actual participants is
generally even further from the truth!  

How can that be ?

 

[Jorge]

After reading the following post by Brendan Eich in his weblog, I
began to distrust the stories told by Douglas Crockford:http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roadmap/archives/2008/04/popularity.html

Okay, Douglas is very convincing in his presentations and he is a very
good teacher indeed, but he was not there at Netscape alongside
Brendan to be able to say what really happened in the "early days" of
JS. I don't like History as told by non-Historians...

So you think that a guy that has lived mostly all such in first
person, as is the case of Crockford, can't tell the story as he sees
fit ?

Or, OIW, when you grow older, let's say some tens of years from now,
won't you be telling the story of JS as you know it because you've
lived it ?

 

[Scott Sauyet]

How can that be ?

The job of historians is to sift through conflicting accounts and
arrive at something most resembling truth. People's memories are
notoriously unreliable. Ask college students about their high school
grades, and they almost universally inflate them, not out of any
attempt to deceive, but just because our memories tend toward the
positive. I heard a story today about a woman who could still
describe in great detail the first television set her family got in
1959, and all the activity involved in getting it installed. But it
was clear that there might be some issues with her memory, because,
she says, "and I can still clearly see the faces of the two men who
delivered it. They were Nixon and Kruschev."

-- Scott

 

[Jorge]

The job of historians is to sift through conflicting accounts and
arrive at something most resembling truth.  People's memories are
notoriously unreliable.  Ask college students about their high school
grades, and they almost universally inflate them, not out of any
attempt to deceive, but just because our memories tend toward the
positive.  I heard a story today about a woman who could still
describe in great detail the first television set her family got in
1959, and all the activity involved in getting it installed.  But it
was clear that there might be some issues with her memory, because,
she says, "and I can still clearly see the faces of the two men who
delivered it.  They were Nixon and Kruschev."  

Yeah, no autobiographies, then.

 

[Scott Sauyet]

The job of historians is to sift through conflicting accounts and
arrive at something most resembling truth.  People's memories are
notoriously unreliable.  [ ... ]

Yeah, no autobiographies, then.

Of course autobiographies are useful. But you'd better expect that
there are glosses over the less flattering aspects of the author's
life. Some of these are intentional, but others are simply due to
failures of memory.

-- Scott

 

[Jorge]

On Feb 17, 4:26 am, Jorge wrote:
On Feb 17, 5:02 am, Scott Sauyet wrote:
Funny, I think that history as told by actual participants is
generally even further from the truth!  
How can that be ?
The job of historians is to sift through conflicting accounts and
arrive at something most resembling truth.  People's memories are
notoriously unreliable.  [ ... ]

Yeah, no autobiographies, then.

Of course autobiographies are useful.  But you'd better expect that
there are glosses over the less flattering aspects of the author's
life.  Some of these are intentional, but others are simply due to
failures of memory.

Exactly the same thing can do/happen when/if the "historian" is a 3rd
person.

 

[Jorge]

Exactly the same thing can do/happen when/if the "historian" is a 3rd
person.

For example, the Spanish Civil War as told by Paul Preston is a fairy
story (read:fabrication, invention, fiction), the one by Stanley G.
Payne is radically different but closer to the facts, and there's also
the one by Ricardo De la Cierva, which depicts the truth much better
than these outsiders, for obvious reasons.