NEWSGROUP "SPAM" - No Such Thing. Newsgroups are public.

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jeze

NEWSGROUP "SPAM" - No Such Thing. Newsgroups are public.

What is "SPAM"? Unsolicited messages? Then everyone that
post to a newsgroups is "spamming" unless they are responding
to a direct question.

What is Off Topic? Anything that isn't relevant to the
group description? Then 99% of newsgroup posters are
spammers. You've never posted an off topic comment?
You can't lie. It's archived in Google.

Links to websites are spam? Then what are those links
in your signature? OH....it's ok to "SPAM" a little bit.
As a matter of fact its ok to "SPAM" a lot because you
include those links in your signature everytime you
post.

If you want a MODERATED group, quit whining and go
join one or create one yourself.

NEWSGROUPS ARE PUBLIC.
 
J

jeze

Beauregard said:
On a roll today, aren'tcha?


No, it is canned luncheon meat.
http://spam.com/ci/ci_in.htm


..such as your multi-posting this message?

...

You are free to post unsolicited comments to usenet.
You are free to post off topic comments to usenet.
You are free to post links to your websites.

You are free not to read it.
You are free to quit whining and go create your own group.
 
B

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

jeze said:
You are free to post unsolicited comments to usenet.
You are free to post off topic comments to usenet.
You are free to post links to your websites.

You are free not to read it.
You are free to quit whining and go create your own group.

You are free to resume taking your medications.
 
T

Toby Inkster

jeze said:
What is "SPAM"? Unsolicited messages?

The definition of SPAM on Usenet is slightly different to e-mail SPAM.

Google for "Breidbart Index".
 
M

Mitja Trampus

JDS said:
No, SPAM is unsolicited *commercial* messages.

Hmmm... I'm not so sure. If, for instance, I replied to your
post with a hundred posts of "No it's not", I'd consider it
spam.
 
N

Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, jeze quothed:
NEWSGROUP "SPAM" - No Such Thing. Newsgroups are public.

What is "SPAM"? Unsolicited messages? Then everyone that
post to a newsgroups is "spamming" unless they are responding
to a direct question.

What is Off Topic? Anything that isn't relevant to the
group description? Then 99% of newsgroup posters are
spammers. You've never posted an off topic comment?
You can't lie. It's archived in Google.

Links to websites are spam? Then what are those links
in your signature? OH....it's ok to "SPAM" a little bit.
As a matter of fact its ok to "SPAM" a lot because you
include those links in your signature everytime you
post.

If you want a MODERATED group, quit whining and go
join one or create one yourself.

NEWSGROUPS ARE PUBLIC.

Listen here, jezebel, spam is just the set of all messages submitted
primarily for their annoyance value. A intuitive analogy is listening
to women chatter at the beauty shop while waiting for your wife to get
done ruining her looks even further.
 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Kim_Andr=E9_Aker=F8?=

jeze said:
NEWSGROUP "SPAM" - No Such Thing. Newsgroups are public.

What is "SPAM"? Unsolicited messages? Then everyone that
post to a newsgroups is "spamming" unless they are responding
to a direct question.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic)>

Quote:
"Spamming is the use of any electronic communications medium to send
unsolicited messages in bulk. While its definition is usually limited
to indiscriminate bulk mailing and not any targeted marketing, the term
"spam" can refer to any commercially oriented, unsolicited bulk mailing
perceived as being excessive and undesired."
What is Off Topic? Anything that isn't relevant to the
group description? Then 99% of newsgroup posters are
spammers. You've never posted an off topic comment?
You can't lie. It's archived in Google.

I consider "off topic" something that a participant can share with the
public that has happened to or affected him/her personally (in the
daily life), and something that is NOT commercially oriented.
Links to websites are spam? Then what are those links
in your signature? OH....it's ok to "SPAM" a little bit.
As a matter of fact its ok to "SPAM" a lot because you
include those links in your signature everytime you
post.

SPAM is luncheon meat from Hormel, while "spam" (all lower-case
letters, unless when at the beginning of a sentence) is a reference to
(usually massive) unsolicited commercial messages via electronic means
(not just limited to e-mail).

Providing a link in your signature is separate from the rest of the
posting, while spamming occurs when the sole purpose of your entire
message is to promote your product/service or website.
If you want a MODERATED group, quit whining and go
join one or create one yourself.

We never said we wanted a _moderated_ group. The FAQ is an established
charter that has been created by long-time posters of that newsgroup,
usually published on the newsgroup in question once a week or month for
the sake of newcomers, to provide a guideline on how to behave in the
newsgroup (basic Netiquette) and providing easy answers to frequently
asked questions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette

Besides, creating a new newsgroup on Usenet requires support from
multiple ISPs (mainly, all the ones that provide access to Usenet).
NEWSGROUPS ARE PUBLIC.

So are highways, so why don't you just to stand in the middle of one?
 
S

Stuart

Mitja said:
Hmmm... I'm not so sure. If, for instance, I replied to your post with a
hundred posts of "No it's not", I'd consider it spam.

I guess one man's steak is another man's spam :)
 
J

JDS

Hmmm... I'm not so sure. If, for instance, I replied to your
post with a hundred posts of "No it's not", I'd consider it
spam.

true enough. I actually looked it up after the OP's rant and found that
any large quantity of unwanted rubbish is generally considered spam, in
most any context.
 
J

Joel Shepherd

jeze said:
You are free to post unsolicited comments to usenet.
You are free to post off topic comments to usenet.
You are free to post links to your websites.

You are free not to read it.
You are free to quit whining and go create your own group.

Executive Summary: You are free to be an asshat.

No doubt true, but as is so often the case, just because you can do
something doesn't mean it's a good idea. For example, you can be an
asshat, but demonstrating some basic courtesy and respect for others is
apt to make many lives more pleasant, including your own.
 
K

kchayka

jeze said:
You are free not to read it.
You are free to quit whining and go create your own group.

We are also free to report you for violating google's TOS, which may
subsequently get you banned altogether. Won't that be nice for the rest
of us. ;)
 
J

jeze

kchayka said:
We are also free to report you for violating google's TOS, which may
subsequently get you banned altogether. Won't that be nice for the rest
of us. ;)

--

You are also free to tell your mommy.
 
J

jeze

JDS said:
true enough. I actually looked it up after the OP's rant and found that
any large quantity of unwanted rubbish is generally considered spam, in
most any context.


You are both right on the money. The content is 100% irrelevant.
Its the QUANTITY.

Doesn't matter if its on or off topic, offensive, for a good cause,
non-commercial, commercial, etc. No message in or of itself is SPAM.

The message "No it's not" repeated 100 tiems is a SPAM QUANTITY.
 
S

Stan McCann

You are free to post unsolicited comments to usenet.
You are free to post off topic comments to usenet.
You are free to post links to your websites.

You are free not to read it.
You are free to quit whining and go create your own group.

You are free to FOAD. Plonk.
 

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