open source java profiler ?

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Arne Vajhøj

Lew said:
Since Java 5 will become unsupported later in 2009, that will give you
about 3.5 years with an unsupported version of Java. Are you sure
that's wise?

Free SUN Java 1.5 is becoming obsolete October 2009, *but* doe
paying customers it is supported until June 2019 !

At least that is how I read:
http://java.sun.com/products/archive/eol.policy.html

And I will expect IBM to also support WAS 6.1 and Java 1.5
much longer than October 2009 - for cool cash !!

Arne
 
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Lew

Arne said:
Free SUN Java 1.5 is becoming obsolete October 2009, *but* doe
paying customers it is supported until June 2019 !

At least that is how I read:
http://java.sun.com/products/archive/eol.policy.html

And I will expect IBM to also support WAS 6.1 and Java 1.5
much longer than October 2009 - for cool cash !!

Yes, but the OP has expressed an aversion to paying for things, like profilers
for example ("maybe that do, but it proably costs money"), so one might
conclude they are interested primarily in options that are free.

Makes me curious though. I thought insurance companies were just loaded with
cash. Maybe they work for AIG.
 
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Arne Vajhøj

Lew said:
Yes, but the OP has expressed an aversion to paying for things, like
profilers for example ("maybe that do, but it proably costs money"), so
one might conclude they are interested primarily in options that are free.

Well - they did not get WAS for free ...

Arne
 
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Lew

Arne said:
Well - they did not get WAS for free ...

Which makes their reticence to pay for an upgrade, let alone use a free newer
version of Java, all the more inexplicable. Nevertheless, they have expressed
at least twice in this thread an unwillingness to pay for things.
 
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Arne Vajhøj

Lew said:
Which makes their reticence to pay for an upgrade, let alone use a free
newer version of Java, all the more inexplicable.

He said that they did not want to upgrade WAS due to fear of
getting the same high number of problems as previous WAS upgrade.

And a given WAS version is approved for one specific Java version. If
they are stuck on WAS 6.1 then they are stuck with Java 1.5.
Nevertheless, they
have expressed at least twice in this thread an unwillingness to pay for
things.

Yes.

But sometimes there is a big difference between costs associated
with production environment and costs associated with development.
Like two different budgets and two different managers.

Arne
 
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Andrew Thompson

Guess: he really meant free not open source.

I can't fail to ..presume that most people
who ask for 'open source' actually mean
'free', but I am compelled to clarify.

It seems in that case, that a freeware binary
should do the job.
 
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Andrew Thompson

If it is open source then SUN and IBM can not do
anything about it.

The download for the source did recently
disappear from Sun's site. Does that now
make it 'closed source'? (ditto 'wink' above)
 
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elh.maayan

(e-mail address removed) wrote on 23.12.2008 13:30:> i tried using visualVM, however it didn't work, i didn't see any cpu

Yes, I guess that's where the "wrong" JDK comes in.

Did you try the NetBeansprofiler?

I used it without problems to profile an appliation running under JDK 1.5..
Although I don't know if it will support Websphere though.

Thomas

by then i would require netbeans itself, or can it be attached to
jboss? i'm using eclipse for development as well as for launching
jboss.
 
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elh.maayan

He said that they did not want to upgrade WAS due to fear of
getting the same high number of problems as previous WAS upgrade.

And a given WAS version is approved for one specific Java version. If
they are stuck on WAS 6.1 then they are stuck with Java 1.5.


Yes.

But sometimes there is a big difference between costs associated
with production environment and costs associated with development.
Like two different budgets and two different managers.

Arne- Hide quoted text -

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the unwillingness is due mainly to bureaucratic problems, it's not
like i can point to a product and say i want it , if the will approve
it, it would ages to actaully get the money for it, which is one of
the reasons i didn't want to start the process. i want something i can
use NOW. :)

hell, i worked in an insurance company, that couldn't be bothered for
paying for things under 50$, so they had an external supplier buy them
for it, and settled the account with him, at the end of each year,
when it accumulated to a bigger amount.


i also wanted java 6 but in israel there weren't many projects using
java 6. so it was "safer"
 
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elh.maayan

I can't fail to ..presume that most people
who ask for 'open source' actually mean
'free', but I am compelled to clarify.

It seems in that case, that a freeware binary
should do the job.

ok, do you of any freeware binary?
 
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Roedy Green

Like the JMF?

I think they are taking another run at the design, no?

If there don't, you see somebody taking it over if Sun drops the ball
on it.
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However, he refuses to consider the costs of not implementing Kyoto which the
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