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Sjouke Burry
They rather see a devalued pound......Bill said:
C
Chris M. Thomasson
Chris H said:
It depends if you are an American. The fact they did not get in was
good for the USA.
I thought that too
That is a false assumption I wanted Palin/McCain because it would help
isolate the US even more and hopefully scare the EU into actually
working together more. It would also split the UK from the US.
Obama is more intelligent than Keighley, Bush & Palin put together.[/QUOTE]
:^)
Well, I do sometimes wonder why kooks like Van Jones got anywhere near the
White House. It certainly does seem like some of the people that Obama has
had ties with are hard core kooks. Oh well, shi% happens.
I felt sorry for her when she did that whole "let's hit the reset button"
thing. Actually, I feel sorry for her in general. I mean, her dirt bag piece
of shi% husband basically cheated on her every damn chance he got. She must
have been so fuc%ing pissed of at him!!!!!!
;^(...
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Barry Schwarz
As long as we've given up any pretense of talking about C, I would
like to know why they use emotionally loaded terms like devalued
pound, strong euro, weak dollar, etc?
If country A's currency is worth twice country B's, which I will
express as A = 2B, we have
B's exports are cheaper for people in A
A's exports are more expensive in B
(These lead to more jobs in B and less in A)
(These also lead to a balance of payment deficit)
It is advantageous for companies in A to outsource to B
(Making the job imbalance worse)
A's tourist find B an economical place to vacation
(Making the balance of payments worse)
The list goes on
Since A is getting the short end of the stick, rather than calling its
currency strong, maybe a better term would be bloated.
After the dust settles from the ensuing economic upheaval, let's
assume A is worth only .9B. Most of the above conditions are no
longer true and country A has a fighting chance at recovery. Instead
of calling A's currency weak in this situation, maybe a better term
would be trim.
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Keith Thompson
[more politics snipped]
These are highly emotional issues, and a lot of people (myself
included) have strong opinions about them. I understand the
need to respond to something you disagree with.
I see two possibilities here. Either this thread will continue
for a very long time, devolving into a political argument that
will probably become yet another demonstration of Godwin's Law,
or a critical mass of the participants will find within themselves
the strength to let somebody else have the last word, just so we
can end this and go back to talking about C.
These are highly emotional issues, and a lot of people (myself
included) have strong opinions about them. I understand the
need to respond to something you disagree with.
I see two possibilities here. Either this thread will continue
for a very long time, devolving into a political argument that
will probably become yet another demonstration of Godwin's Law,
or a critical mass of the participants will find within themselves
the strength to let somebody else have the last word, just so we
can end this and go back to talking about C.
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Chris H
Bill said:
You are wrong.
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Dik T. Winter
No, they want to let it devalue on its own. When will 1 UKP be equal to
1 euro? I do not think it will take long.
C
Chris H
So where will that put the USD? Not even worth the paper it is written
on?
It is about time the UK used the Euro.
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William Hughes
Maybe, maybe not. Exchange rates are very confusing.
They seem to be influenced by differential inflation
(at least in the long run) but there are many other
factors (importantly, but not exclusively, the monetary
policy of the issuing country (which is of course not independent
of inflation)). <Desparate attempt to
get back on subject> How about using exchange rates
as a source of entropy for generating random numbers.
- William Hughes
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Bill Cunningham
Since gold standard never been worth anything.
MV=PQ
money suppley multiplied by velocity of money supply is GDP. Print money GDP
goes up.
Bill
B
Bill Cunningham
How about using exchange rates
as a source of entropy for generating random numbers.
Possibly...hum
as a source of entropy for generating random numbers.
Possibly...hum
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robertwessel2
Sure, but why not use the whole stock market instead? Use the low bit
of the closing price of each stock every day. In a somewhat more
realtime scenario, if you have a ticker feed, the low bits of the
prices ought to have pretty good entropy. *And* you'll get *lots* of
bits (I don't know how much bandwidth you'd actually need, but about
five years ago someone I know was installing a T3 - 45mb/s - to get a
partial feed of the US markets - no matter the message format, that's
likely several hundred thousand quotes per second, at least while the
market is open).
Of course the problem is that *everyone* the gets the same random
source, which kinda defeats the purpose.
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Beej Jorgensen
Bill Cunningham said:
Hold it! Before anyone says anything else, can we all agree to not
start a monetarism vs Keynesianism debate on clc?
-Beej
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Chris H
Richard Heathfield said:
I note you only say that to me.... Not all the others talking politics.
Your bias is showing,
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Nick Keighley
It depends if you are an American. The fact they did not get in was
good for the USA.
I thought that too
That is a false assumption I wanted Palin/McCain because it would help
isolate the US even more and hopefully scare the EU into actually
working together more. It would also split the UK from the US.
Obama is more intelligent than Keighley, Bush & Palin put together.
Also his Forigen Secretary is very clever. She has the brains to stop
the EU organising itself better, by dividing opinion.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing I'm getting lumped in with some right-wing intellectual
light weights for some good reason.
Hell, I'm a guardian reader that makes me virtually a commie!
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Nick Keighley
even ELF does better than 45 milli-bits
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Seebs
I have no clue what ELF is (I could only think of the executable format,
and that's not right) in this context.
That said, I do agree that 45mb/s seems a bit low, but I have had lines
that got into that general range. (Hint: Averaged over time, and not
very reliable.)
-s
S
Seebs
This looks suspiciously like a comment on spelling, but I'm not seeing
the error in your post. Please explain.
_s [sic.]
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Nick Keighley
Fair point. But I submit that in *this* case it makes a large (9
orders of)
semantic difference. I pick people up who confuse million and billion
as well.
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Nick Keighley
In
Oh, I know - and I've pointed out the same error myself on occasion,
and for the same reason. But if you're going to be picky about this
kind of stuff when others do it, you might want to start being a bit
pickier about what you yourself write.
What about people who confuse "billion" and "billion"? Those are even
easier to mix up.
apparently the UK Treasury isn't always clear on the distinction
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robertwessel2
The Extremely Low Frequency radio system the US (and, I think Russian)
Navy uses to communicate with submerged submarines. Uses signals near
about 70Hz, since that actually gives you global coverage and can
penetrate a considerable amount of seawater. Net data rate is several
characters per minute. Presumably there's a two or three character
code that means "nuke Moscow." Needs really, really, big antennas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... ;-)