Sell - IDE IntelliJidea 7.0 personal license

[Decagrog]

Hi all,
I've a personal license for the IntelliJidea 7.0 IDE http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
, i've win it during the Ideday event in my city, but i'm not a Java
developer ...
I will like learn something about Java but actually i've very little
time and i don't think this is the right ide to get the grip...so i
sell it.
If someone is interested to try it first there is a trial version on
the official website http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/index.html

I sell it for 100euro or 140$, actually it cost 177euro or 249$

 

[Roedy Green]

http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

see what I have to say about it at
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/intellij.html

 

[David Segall]

Hi all,
I've a personal license for the IntelliJidea 7.0 IDE http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
, i've win it during the Ideday event in my city, but i'm not a Java
developer ...
I will like learn something about Java but actually i've very little
time and i don't think this is the right ide to get the grip...so i
sell it.
If someone is interested to try it first there is a trial version on
the official website http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/index.html

I sell it for 100euro or 140$, actually it cost 177euro or 249$

Except that IntelliJ claim that you can't sell it!
<http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/buy.html#personal_licenseTerms>.
Congratulations on your prize and I hope you gain something from it
but I don't understand why someone would pay $US249.00 for _any_
product that depreciates to zero the instant they buy it and before
they use it. It is even more puzzling when they can have something
comparable like Eclipse, JDeveloper or NetBeans for nothing.

 

[Mark Space]

see what I have to say about it at
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/intellij.html

That was a pretty good synopsis, Roedy. I see that your NetBeans entry
is only one line long. I wonder if you'd consider updating the NetBeans
entry to the current NB version? I'll contribute to the review if you like.

 

[Decagrog]

Except that IntelliJ claim that you can't sell it!
<http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/buy.html#personal_licenseTerms>.
Congratulations on your prize and I hope you gain something from it
but I don't understand why someone would pay $US249.00 for _any_
product that depreciates to zero the instant they buy it and before
they use it. It is even more puzzling when they can have something
comparable like Eclipse, JDeveloper or NetBeans for nothing.

I think that is no more transferable only from the moment that you
activate it...

About the quality of the software i don't know very much about various
Java ide, each one have some pros and cons, imho i find intelliJ more
adapt for who has already some java skill and want to speedup
productivity, but maybe it lack some features that are usually
included (for example) in ide like Netbeans

 

[Roedy Green]

That was a pretty good synopsis, Roedy. I see that your NetBeans entry
is only one line long. I wonder if you'd consider updating the NetBeans
entry to the current NB version? I'll contribute to the review if you like.

Great!. I have not used NetBeans in a long time, and when I did, my
machine was too underpowered to do it justice. I think readers
particularly would like to hear about Matisse and how you can build
and maintain GUIs in a visual way.

 

[Roedy Green]

It is even more puzzling when they can have something
comparable like Eclipse, JDeveloper or NetBeans for nothing.

I am a big fan of IntelliJ. The reasons why you might be willing to
fork out money include:

1. faster response.

2. constantly offers to improve your code. Just click to accept the
tidy.

3. the extremely configurable code formatter/rearranger satisfies the
anality of the average computer programmer.

4. it offers all kinds useful refactoring and lint.

5. There are people who are paid to answer your questions promptly and
politely. On the net you normally have to take a dose of sarcasm and
insult with your answer.

6. more intuitive interface.

 

[Roedy Green]

I think that is no more transferable only from the moment that you
activate it...

check with Ilia Dumov ilya.dumov at jetbrains.com
on how to handle the transfer and if it is possible.

 

[Roedy Green]

6. more intuitive interface.

7. very good about integrating changes you make inside IntelliJ
without outside. You don't really have to think. It just magically
works. I think it saves very frequently in the background.

 

[David Segall]

I am a big fan of IntelliJ. The reasons why you might be willing to
fork out money include:

I'm sure IntelliJ is a better IDE than its competitors in some
respects and I'm equally sure that one of Eclipse, NetBeans and
JDeveloper is "best" in others.

My post was intended to point out just how bad IntelliJ was in one
particular respect. I think the purchaser of _any_ product should be
entitled to sell it after they have finished with it.

You have a free copy of IntelliJ that allows you to develop free
software. If you write some commercial software the Open Source
License Agreement
<http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/opensource/license.html#openSource_licenseTerms>
would not allow you to use it. Would you (or have you) paid $249.00
for IntelliJ IDEA? To me, this mean spirited restriction on your use
of IntelliJ is another reason to reject the product.

 

[Roedy Green]

<http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/opensource/license.html#openSource_licenseTerms>
would not allow you to use it. Would you (or have you) paid $249.00
for IntelliJ IDEA? To me, this mean spirited restriction on your use
of IntelliJ is another reason to reject the product.

If you are developing software commercially, you an afford a lot more
than $249 if it even marginally improves your productivity.

In any case, I don't think anyone can comment on its value without
having used it for a month or two.

 

[David Segall]

If you are developing software commercially, you an afford a lot more
than $249 if it even marginally improves your productivity.

In any case, I don't think anyone can comment on its value without
having used it for a month or two.

I agree with both those sentences but since you have used it for a
month or two I don't understand why you didn't answer my question. Do
you think that IntelliJ IDEA "improves your productivity" compared to
Eclipse, JDeveloper or NetBeans?

 

[Roedy Green]

Do
you think that IntelliJ IDEA "improves your productivity" compared to
Eclipse, JDeveloper or NetBeans?

Yes. I explain why at http://mindprod.com/jgloss/intellij.html

The main reason is it responds to my commands more quickly.

The next most important reason is the lint, which catches all manner
of problems.

The next most important is the refactoring which saves all kinds of
keystrokes, and does it more accurately.

The emotional hook is the rearranger/reformatter which gives me far
better control of how my code is tidied than any tool I have used
before.

I suppose to be fair, I should revisit all the tools and give them
each time for my fingers to adjust, but there are not enough reasons
to want to leave IntelliJ, so I'm not willing to invest that time.

The one that most tempts me is Netbeans and its visual editor. I have
used visual editors since JDK 1.0 days, and have not been impressed,
though in theory I find them attractive.

 

[Arved Sandstrom]

I am a big fan of IntelliJ. The reasons why you might be willing to
fork out money include:

1. faster response.

2. constantly offers to improve your code. Just click to accept the
tidy.

3. the extremely configurable code formatter/rearranger satisfies the
anality of the average computer programmer.

4. it offers all kinds useful refactoring and lint.

5. There are people who are paid to answer your questions promptly and
politely. On the net you normally have to take a dose of sarcasm and
insult with your answer.

6. more intuitive interface.

I used IntelliJ on the job back in about 2002/03, and quite frankly back
then it was already an amazing Java IDE; there was nothing nearly as good.
I have no doubts that it has gotten better in the last 5 years or so.

Having said that, I currently use Eclipse and NetBeans both (Eclipse Europa
on Windows XP, NetBeans 6.0 on both Windows XP and Debian Linux) and I am
hard pressed to find lacking features (major ones) in either. IOW, I would
have been easily convinced to pay money for IDEA 5 years ago (and I
certainly have forked out cash for worthy tools before - I bought
Metrowerks CodeWarrior for Mac about a decade ago because it was a great
piece of gear), but I'd probably not do it now...Eclipse and NetBeans are
simply good enough, and you can't beat free.

AHS