Server-specific strangeness?

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OldSage

Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
many a month on a particular server.

To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
with no changes.

Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
to looking as they did on the former server.

I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.

Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
might've happened?

Thanks.
 
S

SAZ

Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
many a month on a particular server.

To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
with no changes.

Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
to looking as they did on the former server.

I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.

Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
might've happened?

Thanks.
There is no way anyone can help diagnose your problem without seeing the
site. Please post it again and provide the URL.
 
D

dorayme

OldSage said:
Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
many a month on a particular server.

To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
with no changes.

Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
to looking as they did on the former server.

I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.

Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
might've happened?


Why can't you post it? You make a folder on your server, call it
"forSomeEyesOnly" and stick all the files in. Who but us will be
likely to come across a url that ends in

forSomeEyesOnly/index.html

is likely to see it.

It sounds to me that you have not uploaded all the files. Perhaps
you did not spot some on the old server or some are generated via
javascript or whatever that you have not opbtained. Or that some
external files over which you have no control have been taken
down (eg. the pros who made it might have moved their files to
which they were pointing in your site - not very wise of them, or
nice?). I suspect it would be easy to fix if it is just a global
font-size issue. Do what I suggest.
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:36:33 GMT
OldSage scribed:
Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
many a month on a particular server.

To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
with no changes.

Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
to looking as they did on the former server.

I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.

Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
might've happened?

Sounds like a path problem. Another possibility is a change in server-side
amenities.
 
L

Leonard Blaisdell

Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
to looking as they did on the former server.

Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
might've happened?

*If* you're using CSS. Make sure external CSS documents actually
reference your HTML document.
Moving from one server to another can be problematic to document paths
among other things.

leo
 
J

John Hosking

Leonard said:
*If* you're using CSS. Make sure external CSS documents actually
reference your HTML document.

Huh? Shouldn't they point (only) the other way?
 
R

rf

OldSage said:
Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
many a month on a particular server.

To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
with no changes.

Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
to looking as they did on the former server.

I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.

You have a problem but you won't allow us to look at the problem?
Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
might've happened?

Pure guesswork:

Your old server is Windows IIS. Your new server is Apache. The former is
case INsensitive, the latter case sensitive. Your CSS file's name is
misspelt in the HTML.

BTW if the lack of a style sheet makes the font bigger (that is, the viewers
default size) then the style sheet is incorrectly setting the font size.
 
A

Animesh K

OldSage said:
Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
many a month on a particular server.

To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
with no changes.

Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
to looking as they did on the former server.

I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.

Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
might've happened?

Thanks.

stylesheet = http://www.olddomain.com/blahblah/mystyle.css

not replaced by

stylesheet = http://www.newdomain.com/blahblah/mystyle.css

could be one reason.
 
O

OldSage

Thank you, thank you to all of the kind folks who replied.

I found the problem, exactly as predicted. One missing file, a style
sheet, failed to copy over. Now I'm totally grumpy with myself. I
invested endless hours looking for obscure causes and the answer was
looking me in the face.

Soon, I'll liven up the site again and you'll all be welcome to visit.

I must say, the help one gets in serious usenet groups is so valuable,
many of us would be way less effective in what we do for a living. I
just wish I had some specialist knowledge here or there, permitting me
to contribute more. As it is, you've hardly heard of me but I am
grateful and I would like to contribute instead of just lurking.
Finding time to educate myself, that's the _real_ problem!

Thanks again
 
D

dorayme

OldSage said:
As it is, you've hardly heard of me but I am
grateful and I would like to contribute instead of just lurking.

There *are* other things you can do to help out. I for one can
use a hand every now and then. How big are you? I sometimes need
some big frightening rough types to pop around and have little
chats with people here, I usually employ film stars but they are
not cheap...
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:34:08 GMT
dorayme scribed:
There *are* other things you can do to help out. I for one can
use a hand every now and then. How big are you? I sometimes need
some big frightening rough types to pop around and have little
chats with people here, I usually employ film stars but they are
not cheap...

This guy seems a cut above the normal manual-moron types you normally
seduce for your feminine machinations, dearie.
 
N

Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:29:57
GMT Neredbojias scribed:
This guy seems a cut above the normal manual-moron types you normally
seduce for your feminine machinations, dearie.

Actually, I'm just checking my sig, so don't give me no lip.
 
D

dorayme

Neredbojias said:
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:34:08 GMT
dorayme scribed:


This guy seems a cut above the normal manual-moron types you normally
seduce for your feminine machinations, dearie.

Like you, you mean, ape-man? Anybody is a cut above things in
your eyes if they are submissive enough. Go get your
Neanderthalic baseball bat and see what you can budgeon. I'm busy
this morning.
 
N

Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:53:01
GMT dorayme scribed:
Like you, you mean, ape-man? Anybody is a cut above things in
your eyes if they are submissive enough.

Uh, how did you deduce this? Seems a bit of a non-sequitir from here.
Go get your
Neanderthalic baseball bat and see what you can budgeon. I'm busy
this morning.

Cro Magnons are definitely not Neanderthals. In fact, except for a
slightly larger cranial capacity, they are indistinguishable from modern
man. Of course, an astute observer might detect disparities in the women,
but at least the males managed to hold the line overall.
 
D

dorayme

Neredbojias said:
how did you deduce this? Seems a bit of a non-sequitir from here.

Would you know a deduction from an induction from a reduction
from an abduction?
 
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Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:46:09 GMT
dorayme scribed:
Would you know a deduction from an induction from a reduction
from an abduction?

Between the 2 of us, who would you say has a better grasp of the English
language? I'm not pointing this out just to "rub it in", although as a
woman you should be used to coming in second.
 

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