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Cplus_addicted
anyone knows what the differences between C++ and Visual C++ are?
Just one of them is visual?
Do they have same syntax?
Just one of them is visual?
Do they have same syntax?
I
Ian Collins
Visual C++ is a windows C++ compiler/IDE.
D
Der Witzbold
Am 13.09.2010 11:13, schrieb Cplus_addicted:
Visual C++ is better for visual applications;
i.e. apps with user in/output.
Visual C++ is better for visual applications;
i.e. apps with user in/output.
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Cplus_addicted
I have basic C programming knowledge. But I want to improve myself in C
++ to make visual interfaces for operator panels that work in Windows
embedded operating systems. The company I am working at is already
making interfaces made with Delphi. But I want to change them to C++.
Any helps are welcome!!!
another question;
so you mean that while C++ is a large ocean, Visual C++ is only a part
of it, right? So C++ is more widespread?
++ to make visual interfaces for operator panels that work in Windows
embedded operating systems. The company I am working at is already
making interfaces made with Delphi. But I want to change them to C++.
Any helps are welcome!!!
another question;
so you mean that while C++ is a large ocean, Visual C++ is only a part
of it, right? So C++ is more widespread?
F
Felix Palmen
* Cplus_addicted said:
Erm ...
C++ is a language, Visual C++ is a product. You can use Visual C++ to
develop C++ applications...
M
Michael Doubez
C++ Builder has a Delphi to C++/Borland converter (Note: this is C++
with Borland specific extension - you won't be able to port it to
Visual).
I have never used it but it may ease the switch and even fit your
need.
No. C++ is a language. VS implements a C++ compiler.
Actually VS provides extensions and additional interoperability under
the name of Managed C++. Ask in a MS related group for more
information.
G
Gerald Breuer
Am 13.09.2010 13:39, schrieb Cplus_addicted:
You want to convince them to change being a C++-newbie???
You want to convince them to change being a C++-newbie???
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Cplus_addicted
Nope. I never need to convince them. I am already an automation
engineer in a machine company. I am 25. We implement and optimize PLC
codes in TwinCAT software for Beckhoff products during design. They
want me to improve myself in a particular programming language as C++
or Delphi, etc.. Since I am basic C programmer, it will be easy for me
to adapt in C++ environment. (this is what I think). The machines
already have Delphi-based interfaces. Those are very simple data
reading softwares, you can see what machine is doing or reading or
cutting... All I need is to write them in C++ from the beginning. But
these are very long-term ideas of me. Thats why I started now...
you can see the flowchat of the communication of C++ and PLC.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/742/newpicture0013.jpg
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Victor Bazarov
Better than what? Or, better than for what?
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V
Victor Bazarov
The differences are analogous to the differences between an "internal
combustion engine" and the "inline 2.0 liter 4-cylinder turbo-aspirated
Volkswagen Passat 2002 engine". One's a concept, a set of rules, the
other is an implementation (realization) of that concept.
Yes. Obvious from the name, isn't it?
The C++ compiler implemented in Visual C++ product does a pretty good
job to implement the C++ syntax as defined in the International C++
Standard.
"Visual C++" is not a language. It's a product. It includes, among
other things, a compiler from the C++ language. The language the
compiler implements is C++ with some extensions. If you take C++ and
add the extensions the compiler contains, you *could* talk about "Visual
C++" as another language, but it would be too limiting (for Visual C++,
anyway). Visual C++ is a *development system*.
Given that in some limiting way you could use the name "Visual C++" to
describe a programming language, it is possible to consider them as
having the same or different syntax. In that sense, C++ is a subset of
Visual C++.
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Z
zedone
thanks for all replies...
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cpp4ever
On 09/13/2010 02:56 PM, Victor Bazarov wrote:
In that sense, C++ is a subset of
But in no sense is visual C++ a super set of C++, but I'm not a fan of
Microsoft and I'm reluctant to use the word super in relation to the
company's products. I hold my hands up for being biased, and as some of
you may have guessed I'm a Linux user.
cpp4ever
In that sense, C++ is a subset of
But in no sense is visual C++ a super set of C++, but I'm not a fan of
Microsoft and I'm reluctant to use the word super in relation to the
company's products. I hold my hands up for being biased, and as some of
you may have guessed I'm a Linux user.
cpp4ever
V
Victor Bazarov
Yeah, let's turn this thread into a bash-Microsoft-'coz-we-don't-like-it
exercise, shall we? <sigh>
I've been a System-360 user, RSX11RT user, MS-DOS user, Linux user,
Windows user, Mac OS user, HP/UX user, Solaris user, just to name a few.
I can only understand the so called "bias" as a reflection of one's
immaturity, sorry if this offends anybody, no offense is intended. We
all were young at some point, enjoy it while it lasts.
V
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cpp4ever
Gaga googoo, no offence taken, being serious and mature all the time
makes for a very boring life.
cpp4ever
J
James Kanze
C++ is a language. VC++ is an implementation of that language.
An implementation doesn't have a syntax, as such, but VC++
compiles conformant C++ without too many problems (although like
all other C++ compilers, it has a few bugs which you may have to
work around).
Like all implementations, VC++ comes with a few additional
libraries. If your goal is to learn portable C++, don't use
them.
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Victor Bazarov
Of course! But knowing when to be serious and when not to makes for a
very satisfying life, and a very successful one. Don't worry, you'll
see it when you have grown up. Keep at it!
V
V
Victor Bazarov
I'd probably say, "make sure you know where the standard C++ ends and
those additional libraries begin", instead of just "don't use them", but
that's just me...
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cpp4ever
I'd probably say, "make sure you know where the standard C++ ends and
those additional libraries begin", instead of just "don't use them", but
that's just me...
V
I have the C++ standard from 2003, not recommended as a starting point
for learning C++.
cpp4ever
R
Richard
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
Christian Hackl <[email protected]> spake the secret code
More strictly Visual C++ is the IDE. You can swap out the compiler
backend for one from another vendor. For instance, people swap out
the MS C++ compiler for the Intel one.
Christian Hackl <[email protected]> spake the secret code
More strictly Visual C++ is the IDE. You can swap out the compiler
backend for one from another vendor. For instance, people swap out
the MS C++ compiler for the Intel one.
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Balog Pal
Cplus_addicted said:
How about RTFM? MSDN has a fine page pointig out the intentional
differences, also the extensions, also the multitude of options to tune the
compiler's behavior...