What is happening to Mozilla ?


P

Penang

I guess everyone already know that FireFox 1.0 is out.

And perhaps I'm just s-l-o-w, but I have no idea what Mozilla is doing
these days.

Look at the Mozilla Road Map www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html and
currently Mozilla is stucked at 1.8 Alpha 4

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/

One look at Mozilla Status Page www.mozilla.org/status/ the last
update was May, 2004.

So, what is going on with Mozilla ?

Is it dead ?
 
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Leonidas Jones

Penang said:
I guess everyone already know that FireFox 1.0 is out.

And perhaps I'm just s-l-o-w, but I have no idea what Mozilla is doing
these days.

Look at the Mozilla Road Map www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html and
currently Mozilla is stucked at 1.8 Alpha 4

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/

One look at Mozilla Status Page www.mozilla.org/status/ the last
update was May, 2004.

So, what is going on with Mozilla ?

Is it dead ?

There should be a 1.8a5 out in few days.

The new versioning for Mozilla has been slowed down intentionally since
new development is focused on Firefox. There will be new versions, but
not on the quarterly scedule to which we had become accustomed.

Lee
 
B

brucie

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Penang said:
And perhaps I'm just s-l-o-w, but I have no idea what Mozilla is doing
these days.

maybe they're busy lightening it up a bit and optimizing the rendering
so it doesn't feel so much like a slow heaver clunker. with the default
gargantuan GUI taking up precious screen real estate it just makes it
feel worse.
 
C

C A Upsdell

Penang said:
I guess everyone already know that FireFox 1.0 is out.
So, what is going on with Mozilla ?

Is it dead ?

AFAIK 1.8 will not be released until perhaps Feb of 2005.
 
R

Rickkins

The problem is, the ugly stepchild(fireturd) is getting all the
attention these days. It's a huge mistake, imho.

MOZILLA FOREVER !!!!!!!!
 
E

Ed Mullen

brucie said:
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Penang said:




maybe they're busy lightening it up a bit and optimizing the rendering
so it doesn't feel so much like a slow heaver clunker. with the default
gargantuan GUI taking up precious screen real estate it just makes it
feel worse.

Huh? "... default gargantuan GUI ..."? When I toggle between Mozilla
and FF they take up almost exactly the same screen real estate.
 
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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

Penang said:
I guess everyone already know that FireFox 1.0 is out.

And perhaps I'm just s-l-o-w, but I have no idea what Mozilla is doing
these days.

Look at the Mozilla Road Map www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html and
currently Mozilla is stucked at 1.8 Alpha 4

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/

One look at Mozilla Status Page www.mozilla.org/status/ the last
update was May, 2004.

So, what is going on with Mozilla ?

Is it dead ?
Not true I am using 1.8.a.5 nightly as I speak now.

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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

Ed said:
Huh? "... default gargantuan GUI ..."? When I toggle between Mozilla
and FF they take up almost exactly the same screen real estate.
actually if you account for the size of the icons used (mayb e
customizable) Mozilla actually take up less space for the menubars than
firefox.

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brucie

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Ed Mullen said:
Huh? "... default gargantuan GUI ..."?

my theory is fisher-price had staff cutbacks in their big and bubbly
toy designs department (ages 3-7). some went to M$ and did the new big
and bubbly XP GUI with an added touch of brightness (kiddies love bright
things) and some did the big and bubbly mozilla GUI.
When I toggle between Mozilla and FF they take up almost exactly the
same screen real estate.

they've managed to get out of the habit of 'bubbly' which lessen the
impression of the big but they still looove big.
 
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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

CarlosRivera said:
How is mozilla 1.8.x looking?
Looks great. on the surface not much has changed. But has become more
reliable, faster.

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Penang

Regarding the bug in Thunderbird you mentioned, can you re-create the
problem everytime ?

If so, have you file a bug report in Bugzilla ?

As users of opensourced programs, it is our duty to file bug reports
when we find one, or else, how can the program become better ?

Anyway, if you haven't file the bug report, please do so, as soon as
possible.

Thanks !!
 
T

Travis Newbury

Having tried all three browsers, Firefox is by far my favorite, so I
think it deserves the recognition.

I have been an IE fan for years. But jumped ship with firefox. I love
some of the development extensions especially "Developer" That and the
tidy extensions that validates code.

I cannot get it to work with Topstyle though. It will appear in the
list of browsers to launch, but it never finds the page. IE, Mozilla
and Netscape all work fine.

And Tabbed browsing is the only way to go.
 
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Kevin Scholl

That "ugly stepchild" is quite possibly the finest overall browser
available.
I agree. Why don't they just focus on mozilla instead?

'Fraid you're going to be disappointed as Mozilla moves forward. The
plan is to at some point concentrate on the separate apps, and leave the
suite behind.

GOOD idea, IMO. Allows for more defined development on each, as well as
greater individualization for the user (pick and choose your apps).

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Oli Filth

Kevin said:
That "ugly stepchild" is quite possibly the finest overall browser
available.

Agreed. IMHO, out of the current major browsers, Firefox has:

* The cleanest interface
* The quickest operation
* The most extensions
* The best HTML and CSS compliance

Oli
 
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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

JeffTurner said:
Having tried all three browsers, Firefox is by far my favorite, so I
think it deserves the recognition.

The only advantage I see for FireFox is the customizable menu.

I'd like to see it in Moz but its not a deal breaker.

And if I want to just quickly look up something on the Web, and I don't
want to read mail. (Which might be once a month.)

I just never have warmed up to the concept foisted upon us by Microsoft
of needing one application for one thing and another, for another. When
I see this in my mind I think of IE/OE.

I don't care what one says the TB/FF combo reminds me of OE/IE and the
thought makes me physically sick.

And here we have the folks a Mozilla trying to foist the same concept
down my throat. I keep hearing at some pont down the road Moz will be
abandoned and you'll have to roll your own putting bits and pieces
together and hope for the best.

When I go on the Internet, I read and save my mail, I read my
newsgroups. And, once I do this, I do my web surfing should I need to.

If I see a mailto link in a URL I like simply clicking on it and I am
instantly creating an email message. If I see a URL of interest in an
email I go instantly to the URL. In either case I don't have to wait for
another application to open and I don't take up more RAM by opening
another another program.

Also when I click on a mailto unlike in FF which opens Mozilla to a
Blank URL page then pops open a blank email screen (ready to create the
email). If I click on a Mailto in Mozilla it instantly goes to the blank
email page. I've set the system properly to open TB in FF for Mailto:,
But it always opens Mozilla.

So if Moz is abandoned I guess I'll have to look around for an another
all in one.

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