without loop printing 1 to n

R

Richard Heathfield

av said:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 06:58:58 GMT, ozbear wrote:
ON TOP-POSTING
so why is so wrong read in reverse order?

,sdrawkcab daer ot elbissop si ti ,seY .elihw a rof ti yrT
?redrah ksat 'sredaer ruoy ekam yhW .tluciffid ylirassecennu si ti tub
more near to the top more near to now, and the part much important is
in the top so i not have not scroll all text

If you learned to snip unnecessary context, there would be almost no text to
scroll.

But if ordinary common sense doesn't persuade you, let's try enlightened
self-interest. When you need help from people in this channel, would you
rather have the help of the bright people or the stupid people? The bright
people like to read stuff the right way up, and they like to see just
enough context to make sense, not pageloads of junk. And when a subscriber
writes upside down over and over and over again, many of the bright people
get sick and tired of it, and just ignore articles from that subscriber.

Top-posting is not a good strategy for those who need Usenet as a learning
resource.
 
C

CBFalconer

Richard said:
av said:
.... snip ...

,sdrawkcab daer ot elbissop si ti ,seY .elihw a rof ti yrT
?redrah ksat 'sredaer ruoy ekam yhW .tluciffid ylirassecennu si ti tub


If you learned to snip unnecessary context, there would be almost
no text to scroll.

But if ordinary common sense doesn't persuade you, let's try
enlightened self-interest. When you need help from people in this
channel, would you rather have the help of the bright people or
the stupid people? The bright people like to read stuff the right
way up, and they like to see just enough context to make sense,
not pageloads of junk. And when a subscriber writes upside down
over and over and over again, many of the bright people get sick
and tired of it, and just ignore articles from that subscriber.

Top-posting is not a good strategy for those who need Usenet as a
learning resource.

av has long been PLONKED here for refusal to follow normal
protocol.

--
Some informative links:
<http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/>
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html>
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>
 
Y

Yevgen Muntyan

CBFalconer said:
av has long been PLONKED here for refusal to follow normal
protocol.

Have you tried the first link from your signature,
http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/ ? Do try it and count
number of additional clicks needed to get to the actual
stuff and how many advertisements you get on the way there.

Regards,
Yevgen
 
C

CBFalconer

Yevgen said:
Have you tried the first link from your signature,
http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/ ? Do try it and count
number of additional clicks needed to get to the actual
stuff and how many advertisements you get on the way there.

Just tried it and no great problem. The linked page has a
"suppress ads" button, and I have many ads avoided through a hosts
file, so my experience may not be typical. I revised that sig to
avoid the redirection step.
 
Y

Yevgen Muntyan

CBFalconer said:
Just tried it and no great problem. The linked page has a
"suppress ads" button, and I have many ads avoided through a hosts
file, so my experience may not be typical. I revised that sig to
avoid the redirection step.

Well, here's my trip to the destination:
http://munt.mine.nu:8080/files/ss/

Now I understand, I should have clicked "Next Page" button hidden
in the bottom of the first page instead of "selecting a mirror"
as it asked me. Though in this case I get popup windows while the
first way is popup-less but longer. Anyway, point was: if a person
gets *that* as a response "why not top-post, i like it", then he
probably thinks "Is this junk supposed to mean anything?" instead
of "Oops, my bad, learning this valuable stuff right away to become
a great citizen of the world!"
And then you wonder why people don't want to be cool and why they
ignore Some informative links.

Happy New Year anyway, only five hours left!
Yevgen
 
R

Richard Heathfield

CBFalconer said:
Not for a long time. I'll check, and possibly remove it.

Might be a good idea. The advertisements load quickly but, in Konqueror at
least, the rest of the page remains blank, the wheel keeps turning, and
Nothing Happens (tm). I have no idea what's *supposed* to be on the page,
but all I *see* is whitespace and advertisements.

So - on to Galeon, and this time I see the following:

"Welcome to the news.newusers.questions Official Home Page in
[Site Location]
[IMPORTANT INFORMATION]

Since Yahoo!GeoCities terminated our ability to use FTP access to manage the
files on our website, we have moved this site to

http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/

Please update your bookmarks."
 
M

Mark McIntyre

Happy New Year anyway, only five hours left!

The wonders of time zones. 15 hours.
--
Mark McIntyre

"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it."
--Brian Kernighan
 
C

CBFalconer

Yevgen said:
Well, here's my trip to the destination:
http://munt.mine.nu:8080/files/ss/

Now I understand, I should have clicked "Next Page" button hidden
in the bottom of the first page instead of "selecting a mirror"
as it asked me. Though in this case I get popup windows while the
first way is popup-less but longer. Anyway, point was: if a person
gets *that* as a response "why not top-post, i like it", then he
probably thinks "Is this junk supposed to mean anything?" instead
of "Oops, my bad, learning this valuable stuff right away to become
a great citizen of the world!"
And then you wonder why people don't want to be cool and why they
ignore Some informative links.

Here is the revised sig and link. Now how does it play? I am
using firefox 2.0 with popups disabled and the aforesaid hosts
file. Things are happy here using either 'nextpage' or selecting
various mirrors.

--
Some informative links:
<http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/> (newusers)
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html>
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/> (taming google)
 

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