15 seconds survey (literally) 1 radio button click. thx for your time

S

Steve

| Kentor wrote:
| > Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
| > you prefer the most?
| > http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php
|
| You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics

lol.

so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to appreciate
asthetics. therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader immediately!

as for kentor, he's the biggest waste of ng space as i've ever seen. he
should download the fucking manual already or hire someone. at least he's
realized this; although in leu of payment, he's only begging for free help
right now...oh, and, he'll give you a nod on 'his' website that *you* design
and program for him.

lol again, though, at your suggestion bergamot. ;^)
 
B

Bergamot

Steve said:
| Kentor wrote:
| > Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
| > you prefer the most?
| > http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php
|
| You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics

so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to appreciate
asthetics.
Click to expand...

It's got nothing to do with aesthetics.

The regulars in alt.design.graphics will give a different perspective on
the query, such as the appropriateness of the particular graphic design
for the intended purpose, or how it suits the particular business.
therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader immediately!
Click to expand...

Um, asking a bunch of geeks which picture they like better is pretty
worthless. Ask some designers who do these things for a living and
you'll get more useful input.
 
G

Geoff Berrow

Um, asking a bunch of geeks which picture they like better is pretty
worthless. Ask some designers who do these things for a living and
you'll get more useful input.
Click to expand...

Not if he just wants gut reaction and not analysis. But the best people
to ask would be the target audience
 
S

Steve

| Geoff Berrow wrote:
| >
| > But the best people to ask would be the target audience
|
| That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups out,
| I think.

well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! ****, i'd not have
bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
 
S

Steve

| > | You're asking the wrong people. Try alt.design.graphics
| >
| > so one must first be a member of alt.design.graphics in order to
appreciate
| > asthetics.
|
| It's got nothing to do with aesthetics.
|
| The regulars in alt.design.graphics will give a different perspective on
| the query, such as the appropriateness of the particular graphic design
| for the intended purpose, or how it suits the particular business.

now THAT is funny. you like building strawmen?

| > therefore, anyone lacking such senses yet wants to understand
| > what makes up 'purdy', should add that ng to their new reader
immediately!
|
| Um, asking a bunch of geeks which picture they like better is pretty
| worthless. Ask some designers who do these things for a living and
| you'll get more useful input.

i'm not a geek...unless everyone is a geek. i suppose, by your logic,
graphic artists cannot be geeks.

attention all non-graphical people...wait, we are *all* graphical and are
very visually particular. it is more *marketing* than profession that drives
decisions like this. *sales* persons will have a better grasp of what is
going to have the best impact on the audience...NOT the graphic artist -
*sales* tells the artist what they'd like to see. i've not only created
graphics for sites, but i've called the shots as to what professional
graphics went into a site. that was how broad my umbrella has been as
project manager on several projects in the past.

finally, graphic artists are to 'appropriateness of the particular graphic
design for the intended purpose' as the software developer is to telling a
company what their business requirements are. neither drive business
decisions; they only facilitate. both the developer and the graphic artist,
in the end, are simply code-monkeys.
 
S

Steve

| Steve wrote:
| > | > | Geoff Berrow wrote:
| > | >
| > | > But the best people to ask would be the target audience
| > |
| > | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups
out,
| > | I think.
| >
| > well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! ****, i'd not have
| > bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
| >
| >
| Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!

;^)
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

Steve said:
| Geoff Berrow wrote:
| >
| > But the best people to ask would be the target audience
|
| That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups out,
| I think.

well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! ****, i'd not have
bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
Click to expand...
Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
 
K

Kentor

damn, if you don't feel like voting, then wtf do you comment, just
skip this post and go to the next one... A designer may say what looks
good or bad but if the rest of the people don't like it... then his
opinion is not very good... anyways thanks to those who voted and
didn't complain about a post that takes 5 seconds to read and another
10 to vote...
 
J

Jerry Stuckle

Kentor said:
damn, if you don't feel like voting, then wtf do you comment, just
skip this post and go to the next one... A designer may say what looks
good or bad but if the rest of the people don't like it... then his
opinion is not very good... anyways thanks to those who voted and
didn't complain about a post that takes 5 seconds to read and another
10 to vote...
Click to expand...

Yea, and if everyone posted off-topic comments like yours this newsgroup
would become completely worthless.

This is a *PHP* newsgroup - not your free personal advisers. The same
with the html and javascript newsgroups you cross-posted to.

Stop wasting everyone's time and bandwidth.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
(e-mail address removed)
==================
 
T

Travis Newbury

damn, if you don't feel like voting, then wtf do you comment, just
skip this post and go to the next one... A designer may say what looks
good or bad but if the rest of the people don't like it... then his
opinion is not very good... anyways thanks to those who voted and
didn't complain about a post that takes 5 seconds to read and another
10 to vote...
Click to expand...

Welcome to alt.html....
 
S

Steve

| Message-ID: <[email protected]> from Jonathan N.
| Little contained the following:
|
| >> | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups
out,
| >> | I think.
| >>
| >> well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! ****, i'd not have
| >> bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
| >>
| >>
| >Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
|
| And my degree in multidisciplinary design?

roflmfao. i guess that's a more direct statement than my smily face
response. mine is a bit more specific than fine arts. as far as i know
anyway, one attends a fine arts school...however, i've never known of a
major of, nor conference of, 'fine arts'.

as for all my blathering, it is more in protest to some jerk-off saying that
developers (or any non-graphical artist) cannot discern what is
aesthetically pleasing and aligned with the image of a business...even
though the hoser...errr...poster *should* quit cross-posting in hopes of
getting a response. the suggestion to ask alt.graphics.design, minus the
inflamation, was valid.

cheers.
 
S

Steve

| damn, if you don't feel like voting, then wtf do you comment, just
| skip this post and go to the next one... A designer may say what looks
| good or bad but if the rest of the people don't like it... then his
| opinion is not very good... anyways thanks to those who voted and
| didn't complain about a post that takes 5 seconds to read and another
| 10 to vote...

you top-posting monkey!

if you had any kind of reading comprehension, you'd know that the drift of
what i'm balking about has NOTHING to do with you but EVERYTHING to do with
the dumbass comment about geeks and other non-graphic artists being able to
understand aesthetics and what business image alignment is.

as for you...you post nearly one question per day in alt.php (and have done
so for the past year at least) that is COMPLETELY covered in TFM. i think
we're a little frustrated with you - i, for one, am. and though highly
lacking in professionalism, your begging for someone to program your site
for you is perhaps the best indication that you are giving up the ghost of
programming...yeah! you should however, offer to COMPENSATE said person(s)
for their time and generousity.

as for the 'wtf do you comment'...well, i've had enough of your
bullshit...sometimes, i'll vent on the source. you can circumvent that
occasion by not being an idiot. then, we'll all be happy.

ok, dumpl'n?
 
S

Steve

| Hello, could you guys please take a look at 4 logos and choose the one
| you prefer the most? :) thanks a lot! I really appreciate it. Link is
| at:
| http://www.rent-index.com/survey/vote.php

i like NONE of them.

as for your programming, it is not the best idea to have seperate html pages
for each of your locations like montana or nova scotia. however, that's not
fatal. what is PISS POOR programming is going to the sign up page and seeing
'enter user name' in red when all i did was navigate to another tab...i
NEVER submitted anything for you to validate!!! ever hear of a form's
onsubmit event?

jesus christ! get some help.
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

Steve said:
| Message-ID: <[email protected]> from Jonathan N.
| Little contained the following:
|
| >> | That probably still leaves the people frequenting these newsgroups
out,
| >> | I think.
| >>
| >> well hell, there goes my degree in graphic design!!! ****, i'd not have
| >> bothered with it if i knew i'd end up a software developer!
| >>
| >>
| >Guess that blows my fine arts degree too!
|
| And my degree in multidisciplinary design?

roflmfao. i guess that's a more direct statement than my smily face
response. mine is a bit more specific than fine arts. as far as i know
anyway, one attends a fine arts school...however, i've never known of a
major of, nor conference of, 'fine arts'.
Click to expand...

What, am I understanding you correctly that there is no degree in Fine
Arts? I hope there is for the money I spent! ;-) It is a BFA, of course
we always a fun with substitution of the words in the initialism! One
can get a BFA in painting, drawing, printmaking... or in the
multidisciplinary area "General Fine Arts"...
 
B

Bergamot

Steve said:
i suppose, by your logic,
graphic artists cannot be geeks.
Click to expand...

OK, poor choice of words on my part, but I'm not apologizing. And it
doesn't change the fact that the OP posted off-topic for php and JS
newsgroups. alt.design.graphics is still a more appropriate newsgroup
for his type of query.
 

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