Assembler is better than C++

J

Jerry Coffin

hitler is/should be an exception.

Regardless of your feelings about any particular person, admitting of
ANY exception opens the floodgates to his ilk.
 
N

Noah Roberts

SenderX said:
hitler is/should be an exception.

While he is certainly off topic here, freedom of expression must apply
to all people or it is of no use to anyone. Deny one person's right to
speak his mind and heart, no matter how black it is, and you deny all
others. Where is the line between good and bad speach? Do you feel up
to the task of drawing that line? What if I disagree and want to draw
it in a different place where your beliefs are not allowed? I can think
of several people whom I would like to tape their mouths shut, mostly
for just being irritatingly ignorant, but I havn't the right.

Believing in free speach means you can allow someone to advocate things
you would die to stop. You must allow someone to stand on a podium and
say all of the stuff you find repugnant, stupid, hateful, and harmful to
the very state of the world without attempting to stop that person from
making those statements. It is a hard thing to do, most people are
incapable of this; which is why true freedom of expression exists in
very few, if any, places on this planet.

There are still many followers of Hitler in this world, they have the
right to their belief system. You have the right to think and say they
are full of shit, evil, or however you view them. You don't have the
right to try and stop them from believing what they believe or to stop
them from saying what they believe. You also don't have the right to
become violent in responce to their expression; violence in this area is
a big indicator that the aggressor is weak in the foundations of their
beliefs.

NR
 
N

Noah Roberts

SenderX said:
Their hate is based in nothingness, it makes no sense...
Being ignorant and spewing forth assertations based on fallacy is the
right of every human. If you deny all ignorant people the right to
speak then the world would be a very quiet place.

NR
 
N

Noah Roberts

Noah said:
There are still many followers of Hitler in this world, they have the
right to their belief system. You have the right to think and say they
are full of shit, evil, or however you view them. You don't have the
right to try and stop them from believing what they believe or to stop
them from saying what they believe.

I should have qualified that last sentance. It is ok to argue your
point and try to get them to change their minds; in this case trying to
stop them from believing in stupidity is perfectly acceptable. It is
not appropriate or within the rights of any person to try and force
another to change their beliefs or stop expressing them.

NR
 
S

SenderX

It is
not appropriate or within the rights of any person to try and force
another to change their beliefs or stop expressing them.

Yeah... Your right, I am sorry.

Please don't let my un-called for remarks turn into a flame war.

I guess I simply have to get over my feelings on this touchy issue(
hitler )...

It has already caused me a couple of bar fights in my lifetime. One of which
I totally lost. Hospital time...

I hope I have not damaged myself to the point of no return.

Again, I am sorry.

I am not going to reply to this OT subject in this NG anymore. I swear.



BTW...

This NG has helped me though some big C++ projects, with no questions asked
on my part.

Thanks.
 
J

Jonathan Mcdougall

There are still many followers of Hitler in this world, they have the
I should have qualified that last sentance. It is ok to argue your
point and try to get them to change their minds; in this case trying to
stop them from believing in stupidity is perfectly acceptable. It is
not appropriate or within the rights of any person to try and force
another to change their beliefs or stop expressing them.

Except when the expression of these beliefs prevents a person to
assert his rights.


Jonathan
 
C

Carl Muller

SenderX said:
I just take a certain offense to hitler.

Saying that a troll's comments might match hitlers, just makes me uneasy...

I am sorry. That's just how I am. I'm not sure if I can change the way I
feel about any comments on hitler... He is one of the few people who make my
blood boil.

Again, my apologies... I was out of line...

I haven't looked at that site, but for an example of the dangers of ad
hominem attacks:

Hitler said that smoking was bad for you. The US said he was wrong,
and after the war flooded Europe with US tobacco. Was it right to
dismiss his arguments because of his other (evil) political policies?

Milosovic said that NATO was using depleted Uranium in the war against
Serbia. The US said this was wrong. After the war they admitted they
were using such weapons. Was it right to dismiss his arguments because
of his other (evil) political policies?

Saddam Hussein said he had got rid of his weapons of mass destruction.
The US said this was wrong. After the war they could not find any
weapons. Was it right to dismiss (and censor) his arguments because of
his other (evil) political policies?

Has no-one invoked Godwin's Law yet?

I don't see what this has to do with assembler though, unless you make
a tenuous assertion that Konrad Zuse was denied funding for his
computers due to his choice of programming language :)
 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juli=E1n?= Albo

Xenos escribió:
Real men (and women) know that it is ASSEMBLY language, not assembler. You
wouldn't call C++ "compiler" would you?

You call it "compily"?

Sorry, can't resist :D

Regards.
 
X

Xenos

Real men write their programs in pure assembler code.Real men (and women) know that it is ASSEMBLY language, not assembler. You
wouldn't call C++ "compiler" would you?

DrX.
 
R

Richards

Xenos said:
Real men (and women) know that it is ASSEMBLY language, not assembler. You
wouldn't call C++ "compiler" would you?

DrX.
What a bunch of sissies. Real men write pure binary without the
assember or compiler crutch.
 
X

Xenos

Richards said:
What a bunch of sissies. Real men write pure binary without the
assember or compiler crutch.

God that brings back memorys. When I was a kid, I taught myself machine
language by hand-coding the op-codes with a monitor program on my TRS-80
Model I because I didn't have an assembler.


DrX
 

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